I didn't realize me letting my interpretation known would strip Reck of his right to defend himself.Shadowdancer, page 8 wrote:@Ex: Why don't you let xRx defend himself?
Best part about this quote is that you actually state the simplest reason as to why scum would do so in that same quote. If you know that, then why bother asking me? Also, WIFOM? lol. What a great defense.shadow Dancer wrote:@Ex: That attack was just lame. Give me one simple reason why scum would come up with it to "fake helping town" as you said (I don't cathegoricall say they won't, but I consider it rather unlikely, but that's based on what I would most likely do as scum, and sometimes I just do the unlikely, just to confuse people... WIFOMatics!).
In other words, it is a way to jumpstart the game with an actual strategy that only superficially helps town.Exilon wrote:A no lynch will make it so that mafia is one townie away of getting majority. It's already hard to play with only an advantage of 2 townies, reducing that number would hurt more than it would help.
No.Destructor wrote:Exilon, is your username based on this guy?
...this is win.Thief wrote:Thanks for bussing Lowell.
Claim time, Quoi.
Like, a seriously painful lynch.Thief wrote:My thoughts on SD are as follows:
-He's posted a lot.
-He makes big walls of text that I don't have the energy to read
-He was wagonned real early real fast and is probably town
You're implying that Mafia were responsible for the early/fast wagon? So, which players on the wagon are scum? Why?Thief wrote:My thoughts on SD are as follows:
-He's posted a lot.
-He makes big walls of text that I don't have the energy to read
-He was wagonned real early real fast and is probably town
That won't address what I quoted. Your appeal to brian seems to be based on you already seeing him as a tunnelling townie.SD wrote:@destructor: Let's see what brai does next, OK.
Why?xRECKONERx wrote:destructor is not nearly as pro-town as he thinks he is.
Lowell wrote:Lurking is really obnoxious in this game.
unvote, vote quoi. destructor and david trying to push an alternate lurker-wagon sold me. Especially the way destructor just dismisses the quoi-wagon as "good enough" at lynch -2, then picks another lurker-target to vote instead. I'd say this will be a three-for-one deal if quoi flips scum.
This may be lynch-1 if I counted correctly, if that doesnt' wake him up I don't know what will.
This is awful.Shadow Dancer wrote:@Ex: Sorry man, but according to your loging every one in this game who ever dared to vote any one acted majorly anti-townish, especially when that one made the scond vote on a waggon, possibly enabling - as you say - scum to just do a united quick hammer. As has been pointed out multiple times by now - anyway it's just basic common sense - that is just not likely to happen.
In your words: Mafia wants - needs - to blend in as town - they just won't do it! Not now, at least. Period. I consider LyLo vs. MyLo the least concern in mafia considerations in this reagard. The difference boils down to a 1/4:1/3 chance of victory... But that discussion has been modkilled... So I won't pick it up again ;..(
It's basic common sense yet you yourself were pointing it as being a dangerous possibility on #92 . On #110 I even went as far as to comment on that and completely destroying that danger, pointing yet again an argument made by you which only superficially "helps town". (= fake attempt at being productive.). You never commented on it, either.SD wrote:especially when that one made the scond vote on a waggon, possibly enabling - as you say - scum to just do a united quick hammer. As has been pointed out multiple times by now - anyway it's just basic common sense - that is just not likely to happen.
Exilon wrote:No.
Why are you voting me, and why are you voting me after advocating lurker wagons?
You know you can't vig DP but you can lynch him.
My only experience with David was the mini Disgaea 2. He replaced out early Day 1. Looking at his post history he seems like a player more comfortable in the Road to Rome. His posts outside of RtR say to me that he isn’t comfortable with the level of scrutiny or competition. This, of course, is simply IMO and you can make your own judgement.Shadow wrote:But seriously, DavidPaker quasi just told us directly to our faces: "See, I am a Lurker!" (and his few posts are helpful only to him - to avoid prods). Has any one played with him before? Is he a troll or something?
We did play in a UPick TV themed Marathon with Quoi on Moving Day. He replaced in to a Mafia slot and pretty much lurked is my recollection. I think NoPoint was also in that game but got lynched early. Not sure how behavior in a Marathon style game in any way a good match for the normal environment.Shadow wrote:@magna: Haven't we played a maraton game together with Quoi? I think he was as useless there as he is here, if I remember right?
Explain how the bolded sentence makes any sense from a Pro-Town mindset. I understand the second sentence but Town should like to lynch Scum regardless of the reason. Also, please tell my how you reconcile the last sentence with this post –Shadow wrote:I don't like lynching scum just because of lurking.
I hate mislynching because of VI anti town lurkers even more.
And I'd definitely like to leave the state of prod voting lurkers already.
Shadow ISO 34 wrote:Oh, and I'm going to be on every lurker waggon during D1! I don't think that's the final answer to the question how to deal with lurkers, but it will definitely discourage scum to try and lurk their way through D1. When in doubt, and since going LyLo is now impossible thanks to Max' stupid rules 6&7, let's lyncha lurker!
And your statement certainly wouldn’t induce them to go the opposite way at all [/off sarcasm].Shadow wrote:In your words: Mafia wants - needs - to blend in as town - they just won't do it! Not now, at least. Period.
You are mildly irked? Care to actually commit to a position. If you think it is scummy say so. This sort of back-handed insinuation isn’t the sign of a Town mindset. For the record – questioning Reck on why he attacked NoPoint’s assertion from a theoretical position as opposed to an actual in-game position is not scummy.destructor wrote:I'm mildly irked by Magma pushing the argument that Reck knows SD is town. I thought it was clear he was referring to theory at the time and it seems like a stretch to see it otherwise.
Why has your vote gone anywhere but me if I’m at the top of your scum list? It reads to me as scum trying to establish a false link to me if he ever does flip. I don’t like that at all.destructor wrote:Considering what I've seen since, I'd rank them something like this:
{Magma, (Exilon, Reckoner), Lowell, mole}
You basically say it yourself again: You have no point at all. The contradiction lies inExilon wrote:This is awful.Shadow Dancer wrote:@Ex: Sorry man, but according to your loging every one in this game who ever dared to vote any one acted majorly anti-townish, especially when that one made the scond vote on a waggon, possibly enabling - as you say - scum to just do a united quick hammer. As has been pointed out multiple times by now - anyway it's just basic common sense - that is just not likely to happen.
In your words: Mafia wants - needs - to blend in as town - they just won't do it! Not now, at least. Period. I consider LyLo vs. MyLo the least concern in mafia considerations in this reagard. The difference boils down to a 1/4:1/3 chance of victory... But that discussion has been modkilled... So I won't pick it up again ;..(
1) According to my.. loging... what?
2) "anyone in this game who ever dared to vote any one acted majorly anti-townish" <-- hum, when did I say this? It doesn't follow what I wrote. AT ALL.
3) Are you serious?
It's basic common sense yet you yourself were pointing it as being a dangerous possibility on #92 . On #110 I even went as far as to comment on that and completely destroying that danger, pointing yet again an argument made by you which only superficially "helps town". (= fake attempt at being productive.). You never commented on it, either.SD wrote:especially when that one made the scond vote on a waggon, possibly enabling - as you say - scum to just do a united quick hammer. As has been pointed out multiple times by now - anyway it's just basic common sense - that is just not likely to happen.
contradiction much?
QFT.MagnaofIllusion wrote:We did play in a UPick TV themed Marathon with Quoi on Moving Day. He replaced in to a Mafia slot and pretty much lurked is my recollection. I think NoPoint was also in that game but got lynched early.Not sure how behavior in a Marathon style game in any way a good match for the normal environment.
Quoi, this is your reason for why Thief is hurtful to town, which is exactly what you are doing. So tell me why Thief is a better lynch than you when you both lurks, you both do not defend yourself but only you contradict yourself.Quoi wrote:Not defending yourself is strongly antitown.Thief wrote:
Fortunately for you we do have time to waste on lurkers who push targets who are uninterested in defending themselves (read: easy targets) based off no reasoning.