/in-vitational 7 - Save Cow's Mind! (after 1014)

[Faraday]

/confirm.

[Faraday]

Now lets get someone straight:

He's Bi dammit!

With that hilariousness out of the way, what's the point of post 29, specifically the early part?

Sfg why are you asking people questions if you don't feel they're helpful in progressing the game forward?

[Faraday]

DRK do you think SFG's questions drew discussion away from the game? Isn't that what you objected to on the top of the page. I don't see why you'd bother answering them if you think that's the case, or maybe I'm missing something here isn't what SFG did basically a RQS (ugh at the terms )

Neto have you actually found that voting without reasons is comitted by scum more often, or is just that you dislike it as a playstyle.

Hopefully cow gets here soon so we can officially start this shindig, I think everyone's confirmed.

[Faraday]

vote haylen

l

[Faraday]

DRK do you think SFG's questions drew discussion away from the game? Isn't that what you objected to on the top of the page. I don't see why you'd bother answering them if you think that's the case, or maybe I'm missing something here isn't what SFG did basically a RQS (ugh at the terms )

I wasn't going to ignore my BFF :S

Scum #2 is found.

[Faraday]

Reading In-Vitational 6 makes me hate people. I will try not to take this out on anyone in this game.
YOU WANT TO POST IN CAPS AND CALL EACH OTHER NAMES KITTYMO>

Faraday: I am interested to know your reasoning for voting Haylen. Doesn't have to be right now, but I'd like to know.

Will do (later that is)

Cuttlefish: Why don't you know who to vote? That confuses me.

+1

[Faraday]

oh fuck, well i did that wrong. eh meaning is clear rit.

[Faraday]

Now lets get someone straight:

He's Bi dammit!

With that hilariousness out of the way, what's the point of post 29, specifically the early part?

missed this question Haylen.

[Faraday]

Haylen's explanation is OK I guess. It read to me like she was setting herself to say 'welp I'm just a bad player' later on as an excuse for any scummy actions she did. I'm always slightly weary of people pre-empting their actions.

All the cutesy hugging stuff is okay, but if anyone posts Hello Kitty I will dayvig him/her. Just sayin.

1. There's a search function at the top of the page. Use it. I haven't been scum in a long time though, so you might need to go into the archives.
2. I look for the truth.
4. Objective scumtells do not exist. Off topic discussion is anti-town and should be avoided.
8. I share my town reads, though I'm less likley to give the reasoning behind them than I am with my scum reads.
16. I will usually post at least once per day but the times I'm on vary wildly. I'm often online late at night (west coast of US).

DRK is scum, possibly with Neto. We should wagon the latter, do some other stuff, and then lynch DRK. Faraday is town.

VOTE: Netopalis

I like the cut of yer jib, with the other stuff being finding DRK and Neto's buddy. It's not SFG though, for obvious reasons and all that.

Unvote Vote Neto

[Faraday]

Haylen's explanation is OK I guess. It read to me like she was setting herself to say 'welp I'm just a bad player' later on as an excuse for any scummy actions she did. I'm always slightly weary of people pre-empting their actions.

All the cutesy hugging stuff is okay, but if anyone posts Hello Kitty I will dayvig him/her. Just sayin.

1. There's a search function at the top of the page. Use it. I haven't been scum in a long time though, so you might need to go into the archives.
2. I look for the truth.
4. Objective scumtells do not exist. Off topic discussion is anti-town and should be avoided.
8. I share my town reads, though I'm less likley to give the reasoning behind them than I am with my scum reads.
16. I will usually post at least once per day but the times I'm on vary wildly. I'm often online late at night (west coast of US).

DRK is scum, possibly with Neto. We should wagon the latter, do some other stuff, and then lynch DRK. Faraday is town.

VOTE: Netopalis

I like the cut of yer jib, with the other stuff being finding DRK and Neto's buddy. It's not SFG though, for obvious reasons and all that.

Unvote Vote Neto

[Faraday]

Haylen's explanation is OK I guess. It read to me like she was setting herself to say 'welp I'm just a bad player' later on as an excuse for any scummy actions she did. I'm always slightly weary of people pre-empting their actions.

First off, this reads like a bad contradiction. Second of all, where did we pull the Neto/DRK scumteam from? I can't find anything. And third, nice buddying up with Ythill.

Now doesn't it make you feel better

Where's the contradiction? Instead of ya know just vaguely saying it at least point it out if you want it addressed. DRK/Neto scumteam was pulled from the info in the thread. It's not hard to see you should be able to find it. I guess Ythill's buddying me also then? What does that say about our alignments anyway, you actually forgot to take a stance on that in this post.

[Faraday]

His confirmation post scummy? In what way? I don't see it.

[Faraday]

If you want further explanation, I prefer early votes that are based upon something said in the current game, rather than "lol your avatar is scummy" or "omg I've played with you 3 times, and 3 is the magic number, so therefore you must be scum!" Something about his post doesn't sit right with me, so I'm pursuing it.

Okay, that's fine? I got that you found it scummy I was wondering if you elaborate on why, as I didn't see anything myself and still don't.

TheLonging's post 74 reads like a whole load of nonsense to me. I've still no idea what he's on about re: contradiction and he voted me because I asked him what I thought my alignment was? I mean I guess you think I'm scum from the vote, but why didn't you say that initially?

@ Haylen: No. We're playing a game it's called mafia. Seriously.

[Faraday]

I followed it, I didn't notice the fact it was late in both games though actually, I thought it referred to the jokeyish nature which seems typical of dramonic from my experience with him and thus not something I see as scummy. I've no real problems with her following up on it though either as it's an interesting line of enquiry and I'd not mind some early pressure in a few different areas.

[Faraday]

Obviousl she = Haylen. I've still no idea what you're talking about though. This is annoying me now though.

[Faraday]

You say you think Haylen's explanation was OK, yet you say that it reads like she's scum making an excuse later when she does scummy things/preempting their actions. So it seemed like a contradiction to me (else you wouldn't agree with her).

Ythill: I thought that WAS your question. Now you have me confused.

No I said it read (RED) like she was setting herself up as that if she's serious. The fact she said it was a joke and dismissed it as such made me feel better, if she'd tried to play it off as a serious thing I'd have probably felt different though.

No contradiction.

You still haven't explained why I'm buddying and ythill isn't though. I don't get it.

[Faraday]

KittyMo what's the source of your confusion, I'd be more than eager to try and clear up anything if you could be more specific on who/what is confusing you.

[Faraday]

I suspect you, DRK and TheLonging though maybe not precisely in that order.

I want more from FISH too.

Off to bed now so will comment on the rest in the morning (particularly some of neto's reads) and hopefully every player will have produced actual content.

[Faraday]

unvote Vote DRK

can we wrap day 1 up now?

Perfectly fine with a mass name claim.

I'm im a vig i'd shoot Neto ftr.

[Faraday]

nikkyfish does reck spaz out regardless of alignment? (you seem to have meta knowledge)

@ the longing will you be changing your vote to xreckonerx shortly? reck has agreed with me a number of times now, and i think that qualifies as buddying. thelonging, make it happen.

i'm not being hasty. i've found scum. we've 3 week deadlines but i'd be perfectly content to finish day 1 now, there's no need to fuck around.

oh if we're going to nameclaim let's get it done or don't, I don't want to waste days on end discussing how it's done, i've seen scum use it as a stalling mechanic before. it's okay though as SFG is pretty obv town.

also ignoring questions that are pointless is not anti town, I find it weird that you didn't even make the point that sfg was gonna be clogging up the thread (idr the exact phrase you used).

we need less haylen active lurking more haylen scumhunting itt. we also need dramonic.

[Faraday]

Man, I'm not surprised Neto moved off of DRK but I thought it'd have taken a little longer. What's wrong with my vote anyway? I think it's cool and stuff.

[Faraday]

No I said it read (RED) like she was setting herself up as that if she's serious. The fact she said it was a joke and dismissed it as such made me feel better, if she'd tried to play it off as a serious thing I'd have probably felt different though.

No contradiction.

You still haven't explained why I'm buddying and ythill isn't though. I don't get it.

So you didn't think that Haylen could be backtracking?

Not really, since she didn't know why I was asking.

[Faraday]

Gotcha!

[Faraday]

v/la through the weekend hascow.

[Faraday]

I don't think you got what I meant It's okay though.

[Faraday]

Sure, you're probably scum.

[Faraday]

The last time I saw something like what thelonging posted it was scum crypto trying to be ballsy and guessing the town win con.

That's moot anyway, please read the fucking rules people.

I don't like TheLonging trying to 'confirm' himself by a win con that's said can have multiple variations on the first page anyway? What's the point of that? It proves nothing.

KIttyMo's awesome and obv town, and I agree with her w/r/t to win con thingymabobs.

[Faraday]

23) The town win condition in all PMs is some variation of "You win when all bad brain cells have been destroyed"

See? Can we get back to BIDNESS NOW.

[Faraday]

SORRY YTHILL THIS IS WHERE WE BREAK APART, I MUST LEAVE YOU IN PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

FOR NOW DUN DUN DUN...

UNVOTE VOTE THELONGING

Sure he's not actually active lurking on the level of haylen but welp he's scum.

[Faraday]

Why did the softclaim make you back off?

[Faraday]

Execute Reck

Don't worry about it now. BOOYAKASHAKA.


Anyway with reck dead let's move on to Neto. I don't undertsand why her softclaim makes her more likely town from your point of view. If I have a scumread on someone and they softclaim I certainly do not back off, softclaims are easy to make, don't see why it changes anything.

What do you think of TheLonging?

[Faraday]

Is UK active elsewhere if not I don't get this wagon ? I don't understand, why aren't you guys help me lynch TheLonging??

Is there something wrong with me? Stop being racist

[Faraday]

@ the longing will you be changing your vote to xreckonerx shortly? reck has agreed with me a number of times now, and i think that qualifies as buddying. thelonging, make it happen.

i'm not being hasty. i've found scum. we've 3 week deadlines but i'd be perfectly content to finish day 1 now, there's no need to fuck around

Rather lynch DRK today to be honest. And to be honest, I actually AM fine with a Reck lynch, just not today.

I support a nameclaim, but I don't know how close DRK is to being lynched. Meh.

Unvote

Vote: DeathRowKitty

Where did this vote come from? You'd vaguely mentioned them before this, but you'd actually directly adressed her or anything so this sort of comes out of the blue? You didn't see the early DRK/Neto thing (reffered to neto as town) so I'm curious why you decided to jump on the wagon. My gotcha was basically because this looks like a really bad attempt at bussing.

[Faraday]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2414134 try there if ya want to discuss stuff like that.

Anyway I'm not unhappy with a DRK or TL lynch. might as well hear from haylen (i assume she's posting today, she's been onsite). Uk and dramonic not being around gives them some excuse for their behaviour.

[Faraday]

Oh wow you sure know how to make a guy feel special

[Faraday]

I am honestly not sure at all if TL is scum because whenever I read his posts, I tend to ask myself what the heck I'm missing, because it is really hard to understand what's going through his mind.

I go through a stream of conciousness most of the time where I write the first thing that pops in my head, and unless it's to counter/ask about something important/make a case, I'll rarely check it over (I did when I tried to argue buddying... btw I have seen that as a scumtell, IRC once (when I first joined there), EpicMafia, on-site, off-site), and it's rarely proven me wrong. I just can't tell whether I'm supposed to discredit what, for me at least, was a close to 100% use scumtell here, I'm just going to give up on that

Anything I missed in my quick skim here

Well it's not so much stuff you've missed but that some of your earlier answers have been poor.

If you think buddying is that scummy why didn't you see reck as suspicious before I brought it up? Or is there some sort of difference between his buddying and my supposed buddying?

[Faraday]

dram wagon is a baddie.

[Faraday]

If you think buddying is that scummy why didn't you see reck as suspicious before I brought it up? Or is there some sort of difference between his buddying and my supposed buddying?

First, I sort of know Reck's meta, he seems to buddy in all the games I've seen from him (town/scum).
And then I got the feeling that people are just poking fun at my thinking that buddying = scumtell, so I basically gave up on pursuing it.

Okay, so reck proves it's not a catch all scumtell at least, I wasn't poking fun, I'm just saying IME it's not a scumtell at all. It's an effective tactic for both town and scum, voting blocks/buddying/trusting players can be really powerful and fuck scum up.

Not impressed with dram but otoh I'm not liking the people on his wagon and I doubt he's being bussed, more likely he's a counterwagon to TL at this stage.

[Faraday]

282 is :goodposting: but let's lynch TL first.

haylen what's your opinion on the longing, town or scum?

please stop the non English posts, SFG.

[Faraday]

where did I get mad? I asked nicely. If you're going to continually post like a spaz please take your own advice and fuck off.

[Faraday]

Yeah - though I still think she's less likely scum than DRK/Neto/TL, she slots in behind them in terms of suspicion at the moment as the dram wagon does look bad to me.

ebwop : glad to know we can expect you to start playing the game eventually.

[Faraday]

Christopher Nolan at your service.

[Faraday]

seeing a theme with the claims. waiting for everything to play out and interested in hearing what ythill has to say too.

[Faraday]

Let me list the name claims and stuff and show what I was thinking. It mostly comes from seeing has around the few gd threads I posted in and from lurking gd in general + some common sense,

[Faraday]

Ythill: SyFy Channel
TL: Telltale Games
DRK: Bioware
Reck: Arkham Horror
Dram : MTG
Cuttle : Mountain Dew
Faraday: Christopher Nolan
UK : Tom izzo
SFG: Soccer
Neto: Mafiascum
Haylen: Vermont Cheese


K so my theory's along the lines of ythill.

Nolan = Hascow's favourite director (says so in my role)
Soccer = sport hascow loves. check the world cup thread and that type of thing
Uk's guy is the coach of hascow's college team. Need to do more research on this but it fits into the others as things cow likes/has an interest in.
Haylen's cheese thing, hascow's from vermont. I assume this is popular there or in his area.
MTG is a card game, I'm pretty sure cow plays this from lurking GD
Mountain Dew = drink, uhh I guess mayube hascow might like it?
ms = obv a site he loves

No idea if hascow likes bioware or not, or any of the other's but it shouldn't be too hard to find out.

I think soccer prob would be in his thoughts, (Premier League kicks off soon and transfer speculation has been rampant as it is every year).


So I'm thinking maybe if we find what hascow likes or dislikes we may be able to use the named claims to better our scumhunting. It's not airtight but I think it's pretty good.

Bioware seem more likely town than telltale games who I've never really heard of. Wikipedia doesn't have a lot either but bioware are pretty well liked amongst games (although i'll check the ultimate video games topic to be sure to be sure)

Eh I think that's it. Make sense? I think so.

[Faraday]

Nah TheLonging is still scum so it doesn't matter.

[Faraday]

I am scum hunting. I GOTS ME VOTE ON SCUM EVEN. taking one post to talk about a common theme in the claims isn't going to distract from anything.

UK you should vote the longing.

[Faraday]

I will not support any lynch within the first 20 pages

well thank fuck it only takes 7 to lynch.

[Faraday]

The opposition to the Dram wagon is really starting to bug me to be honest. I might need to reconsider my read on him. In fact, there's a decent chance my vote will move from him before I go V/LA tomorrow.

why is the opposition bugging you? I think the main opposition has been reck and to a lesser extend myself.

this is 2 players who one you think has 'been a bit odd to say the least' (I don't think I have ftr, my play's been quite straightforward I think) and the other is someone you don't really have any read on.
however it does seem pretty improbable (and bastardly?) that you and tl would be scum together so derp I guess, all on board tl wagon.

[Faraday]

I will not support any lynch within the first 20 pages

well thank fuck it only takes 7 to lynch.

Woops missed the second part (untill kittymo's back) comment retracted!

[Faraday]

Holy shit <3 UK.

[Faraday]

I'm going for a run shortly after I get food but I'll summarise why thelonging is scum later and then talk about who else is scum and other fun stuff ^_^

[Faraday]

I prefer TL.

Eh that case won't happen tonight too. Lazy and all that. Still w/e let's lynch him!!!!

Why's dram scummy again?

[Faraday]

Neighbours don't know each others alignments, so wouldn't two scum neighbours be sort of bastardly. I mean I'd expect it in one of your games, but it seems sorta..bastardly>

[Faraday]

*sigh*

TheLonging's actually coming off as fairly pro-town in his recent posts. I would like to see DRK lynched instead.

Unvote; Vote: DRK

DRK lynch > Neto lynch > TL lynch

how in the fuck do you think he looks pro town here?

[Faraday]

Short thoughts on tl:

-He votes me for buddying, but not in the post he brings it up. if he thinks it's such a good scumtell y no vote on me?
- He still seems inconsistent in the application of said tell. Ythill wasn't buddying me (I don't remember why?), Reck was doing more buddying than I was yet he wasn't scummy for it, in fact you didn't even mention his buddying to me at all. I think if you think something's a scumtell you're going to be looking out for it like a hawk, it doesn't fit with a townie looking for scum.
- I don't think he satisfactorily responded to Ythill's questions, he seemed evasive.
- Post 17 is a doozie, hops on the DRK wagon (had previously expressed some mild scum read on her?) and says he's fine with a Reck lynch. Well thanks for fucking mentioning it. Don't buy this, it looked like bussing at the time, but now it just likes a really bad wagon hop.
21- The bringing up the wincon.Nul leaning scummy on this, could be more a personality thing I guess, still no town reason to do so.
23- LOL U GUYS GOT NO CASE XD SO RANDUM. This is just a gut thing but it rubs me the wrong way.
Lied about the night talk - firstly I tend to think not utilising out of thread chat is a scumtell in the first place (I've 2 ongoing examples of this which I can't cite, and a general feel that it works)

Since then it's been nothing really scummy, self voting's null too, but it's been mostly fluffly clogging up the thread and telling us who to look at when he flips town. Woop dee doo.

Colour me convinced. Yeah sorry. It's time to die. He looks like scum who's thrown the towel in.

[Faraday]

He's posting nothing but fluff. He's already said who he suspects, and not a lot else. I mean there's always a chance the wagon will go away too, there's no harm trying.

[Faraday]

Yeah V/la untill Sunday evening. I'm heading out tonight, so yeah.

[Faraday]

Ythill has my suspects right. Although I'm pretty convinced that TL is scum which would clear DRK.

[Faraday]

I don't know. It's certainly possible but I'd have to re-read and see. It's very odd to see neighbours suspect each other like this too.

[Faraday]

Why are people talking about there being a vig like it's a certainty? It doesn't seem reasonable to rely on its existence. I feel like I'm missing something.

It's very odd to see neighbours suspect each other like this too.

Why?

Well I think suspecting each other just because they're neighbours is stupid. (And that's what seems to be happening from TL, he can correct me if I'm wrong). I also find it odd as I tend to trust neighbour partners unless given reason not to (although obviously TL has given plenty of reason etc, but see the first sentence)

Why do you asl?

[Faraday]

ask****

[Faraday]

DRK did you think it odd/suspicious that TL wasn't talking pre-game?

[Faraday]

I've never been a scum neighbour (actually never mind I was, won the game by getting myself 'confirmed' ) but yeah it's pretty hard to maintain conversation as scum as naturally in a 1 on 1 setting I think.

Want DRK's thoughts specifically though ;D

[Faraday]

Mod: Did neto pick up his prod

His last post was 5 days ago.

Where's Haylen? We need far more content from that slot.

[Faraday]

Neto's not posted much on site since then, just once in his modded game on Saturday but yeah he needs to show up.

Haylen's been around tho. Were are youuuuuuuu

[Faraday]

oh day went over 20 pages. AHHHHHHHHHHH

v/la. uni stuff came up, needs to be a sorted which involves travelling to dublin.

[Faraday]

Let's kill TL and end day 1 with a scum lynch,

[Faraday]

I fucking love secret reasons. Ythill looks obv town so far though.

[Faraday]

I fucking love secret reasons. Ythill looks obv town so far though.

Let it go for now. I'll explain it later when it becomes decisively relevant/irrelevant. It's a subtle scumtell that I wouldn't expect someone else to pick up right now.

2DEEP4ME???? Nah I was letting it go silly

[Faraday]

Also wishy washy? I've been so far from that.

So far

My positions are all p clear. I also resent the implication that I'm not following the thread. I think it's pretty obvious I'm on the ball in that regard.


Also Haylen and drk (v/la so excused) are wasting their votes. That's anti town at worst, scummy at best. Haylen just posted she's not moving her vote. Y u say that Haylen?. Trying to stick to your top suspect when it's obv they're not being lynched is pointless. Put ya vote on a proper wagon, scaredy cats. (hint: TL is a good wagon)

[Faraday]

YES I AM AT L-2

<333333

COME ON PEOPLE

THROW MORE POINTS AT ME I CAN REFUTE

AND THEN IGNORE THEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TUNNEL VISION

REFUTE GETTING A SCUM ROLE PM


lolgame.

[Faraday]

i'm town.


see that was easy. you didn't say that right there, hence scum. FELL FOR MY TRAP. (yeah I'm getting ansty, can we fucking lynch TL already?)

[Faraday]

i'm town.


see that was easy. you didn't say that right there, hence scum. FELL FOR MY TRAP. (yeah I'm getting ansty, can we fucking lynch TL already?)

No, you're not town, now provide good detailed reasoning for why you're town. Instead of scum. Which you are. You got a role PM that made you scum. Why?

^^^^^^^^^^^^SCUMMY AS FUCK.


KILL IT WITH FIRE.

[Faraday]

is sexy the word your looking for cos yes I am. But seriously...(ish)

i've been quite serious in my desire to see thelonging dead.

I've already posted why TL is scum anyway, like fucking ages ago.

never told him to get modkilled either. asked him to refute getting a scum role pm (

> IMPLYING HE'S SCUM

) which is obviously irrefutable, he wasn't actually supposed to take it seriously...it was more so a response to him saying he's refute all arguments against him or something.

and no i don't always play like this, it varies dramatically from game2game.

[Faraday]

this game currently has the entertainment value of watching paint dry. Can't something INTERESTING happen?

vote thelonging.

[Faraday]

you can keep saying you've countered my case if you want, I really don't care, however your alleged counters are weak at best. countering is all well and good but I've yet to hear a good explanation as to why you lied about the pregame talk (OR MISSED IT).

why the fuck are you asking me if you should quote your pm? i never asked or implied you should, so i've no idea why you're asking me if you should. I'd prefer to just lynch you, really.

[Faraday]

you want to make a bet but didn't. avatar bet for a month says you're scum.

[Faraday]

There's no way I can make what was said in that post any simpler.

[Faraday]

Unvote Vote TL

[Faraday]

OH GOD I HOPE THAT WAS A HAMMER.

I'm going to make you wear a telletubby avatar. Dipsy was always my favourite so you can have him. He has a pimpin' hat.

[Faraday]

YTHILL HAMMAH PLZ

[Faraday]

changed my mind tinky winky it is.

[Faraday]

L-1 I think.

[Faraday]

SO it goes like this:

Ythill is town. By proxy Haylen is town.
Kittymo is SOFTCLAIMING (but not very softly)
Nik claimed he was roleblocked, another softclaim.
SFG softclaimed. DRK's a niehgbour. Wtf?

The only thing this does in terms of alignment is confirm Ythill and Haylen, which is actually pretty good since Haylen's been relatively scummy so derpity derp.

As for my fake hammer, it wasn't a fake hammer, or meant to be. I was bored and fucking around, anyone paying attention to the game even vaguely would have realised by vote was already on TL.

Also fuck this fucking avatar.

[Faraday]

KUBLAI KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN is that you???


SFG is town.

[Faraday]

U GUNNA HAFTA IF U WANNA GET ME LYNCHED
YOU SCUMMY LITTLE

SERIAL KILLER

, YOU

WOOSH?

[Faraday]

Actually massclaim doesn't sound bad at all. With what I presume are most of our PR's outed it locks any scum into claims now and let's us possibly catch them with role interactions as well as the day game.

[Faraday]

No I was trolling. is there any reason not to apart from Day 2? I mean how many fucking more pr's do you think we have? We've already got a cop and jailer and neighbour and miller and ???. I suppose it's possible we've one or 2 more but I'm not sure if there;s any harm outing them at this point, I think 1 more confirmable person and it's gg.

[Faraday]

How can you not explain it if it makes perfect sense. I don't know if I see it as a slip, just pure being wrong.

SFG is obv town though I think, I've never seen a townier looking miller (aside from Kublai Khan ) really. I think her thought process and all that makes perfect sense as town and less sense as scum.

Uh I'll make an effort to re-read day 1, particularly reck's defense of tl at the end of the day and other stuff I guess, I'm lazy tho so it'll take a day or 2.

[Faraday]

pretty tired but skimmed the thread. reck/cuttle scum team seems pretty possible actually.

vote reck

[Faraday]

wait why the fuck is soccer a miller SFG?

[Faraday]

back saturday most likelyeee

[Faraday]

cow also likes soccer, i mean i could see soccer being a miller in america mafia but the flavour's a bit odd for here.

the fucking net here is horrible but i can sneak in a quick post. also gonna be v/la from nex thursday to sunday with very little chance of any posting, off to electric picnic.

[Faraday]

because he's scum.

[Faraday]

BAZINGA (bbt is garbage)

[Faraday]

so because i was wrong about the longing I should stop posting? lolno my ego's far too big for that.

stop trying to undermine my MAD SKILLZ

[Faraday]

well even the best of us are wrong occasionally. i trust myself to be right more than average and my gut's quite good. re-read reck's defense of tl, doesn't it look scummy to you?

[Faraday]

there's no defense to be add without an attack being made <<

that didn't really answer my question, like at all.

[Faraday]

is neto this quiet across site? i was really looking forward to playing with him again too after he beat me last time

[Faraday]

Just because Netopalis is busy irl doesn't make his earlier actions any less scummy. Why is no one interested in lynching him today? What the hell changed?

B/c we're waiting for a large catch up post in which he helps us find his scumbuddies. that was so obv too

[Faraday]

Not me, Kitty. I don't townhunt, I scumhunt. Scum townhunt.

this is ridiculous.

[Faraday]

Wanna say why instead of just throwing stupid fucking adjectives my way?

lol y u mad though.

and it's ridiculous as you're basically calling people's whol playstyles scummy for no good reason. IME scum find it hard to clear townies as it completely narrows down their mislynch options.

[Faraday]

Scum tactic: clear a few townies and throw in one of your scumbuddies for good measure, then mildly suspect/bus the hell out of a scumbuddy.

Herp derp. I've done that so many times as scum.

You must be playing against exceedingly poor towns if this works.


DRK's not cleared no matter what the sparklykitty says, although I don't think he's scummy independent of early neto interactions.

[Faraday]

off for 5 days with limited/no access. assume i've no accces and all your surprises will be pleasant.

[Faraday]

OH JEE SFG WHY SO MEAN TO MEEE.
Unvote me or I'll take Phayt hostage (when he gets here). C:< Gahahahahahaha

Seriously though Faraday is scum. Was there any reason for him to be so sure on TL's alignment that he would make an avatar bet? No, there was not. I'm guessing he did it because backing down would look scummy.

Also bye DRK.

i'm quite convinced in my own abillities, actually. iirc i suggested the bet, so I don't see how I'd have been backing down.

i'm back btw.

[Faraday]

are reck and dtm actually retarded or were they just pretending they believed the fake guilty? lol

[Faraday]

dtm's case is kinda long. not gonna respond to it anytime soon. his trying to discredit the innocent investigation on haylen on the basis that the godfather was investigated in this one game and went to on to win is fucking stupid though.

anyway off to post in other games and go bed.

[Faraday]

wait why the fuck are you both replacing out? ugh stupidity.

[Faraday]

Well if the implication is that I'm a sleeper scumbag, I don't think I could be classed as a sleeper scumbag by any stretch of the imagination. The fact that no-one seems to have brought this up before is a sorry reflection on the game though (or I missed it and can't read, which is ;D worthy).

The Bloc of whom? It seems yourself and KittyMo have problems being in a bloc with me, or at least reservations. I don't think that matters if we decide on a voting bloc anyway a whole lot. Yth/Far/KM/SFG/Haylen BLOCK. Only 5 but would probs work outm in this game.

[Faraday]

DTM/Hayl team doesn't make since given DTM's reaction to the cop innocent on her. I don't think any of that trio is an especially likely one...cuttlefish/DTM/Ythill would be the most probable I guess, but even that would shock the fuck out of me.

[Faraday]

catching up.

[Faraday]

reck what result did you get on dram? town? non scum or what? i missed it.

cuttlefish; stop stalling and claim. In fact I'm mulling over massclaim with. I doubt we've much more power to out, any thoughts on it?

[Faraday]

ythill hinting not cop is FUCK worthy. i don't think reck couldn't have helped to notice everyone assumed he was a cop, so i'm not sure scumreck would claim cop.

kittymo's obvtown silly owl, scumjailer isn't unheard of but her play's been supah town.

[Faraday]

I'm 99% sure there's not a vig in the game. HERE FISHY FISHY FISHY.

Vote Cuttlefish

[Faraday]

oksy skimmed.

sgree w/ reck re; the self vote, please don't do it at this stage of the game.

I don't want to no lynch though. I think it'll serve no purpose, we'll be left with the SAME 1 vs 1 tomorrow.

Haylen's town fmpov. I'm not entertaining GF shenanigans at this moment. Dram is probably town regardless of reck's alignment, although I guess there's the posibillity it's lol outguess the scums.

DTM : I didn't respond to your case for 2 reasons A) Wasn't all that bothered too, b) had little to no net access the last few days. Got a new laptop now though so it's all good.

Set-up SPEC time something I think I'm half decent at.

JOAT + Neighbours (1 town/1 ???) + Miller + Cop? + Jailerish thingy + vig vs 3 scum?

It sounds...unlikely, I think. Otoh a JOAT with a miller makes little sense to me, I don't think 1-shot's should have the posibillity of false positivies/negatives, so that's in reck's favour.

Actually a few questions : Reck why didn't you investigate DRK night 1? What made you so convinced TL was town? Quote some posts if you need to, or something, as it looks like inside information to me.

It's pretty clear we should be lynching one of reck/drk today I think. Anyone else would be a stupid lynch. I guess you could argue no lynch, but I won't be doing that so w/e.

[Faraday]

Okay, forget the example I thought I had. It had a town twin and a scum twin, one of which was a death miller and one of which was a death antimiller, not an insane cop >.<

Reckoner, if you're actually a cop, you're inspecting SFG tonight.

UM WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE DO THAT? IF HE'S SCUM HE CLAIMS A GUILTY. IF HE'S TOWN HE GETS A GUILTY IF SHE'S A MILLER OR GOON. WAT. WAT.

[Faraday]

oh fuck the sanity arguments, btw. he's either scum or a cop

[Faraday]

miller turns up guilty regardless of sanity, no? I guess that varies according to the mod actually.

[Faraday]

why the fuck are we no lynching? I fail to see what good that could POSSIBLY do for us, someone explain it. yeah I know the game theory, but theory doesn't always hold up in practise.

[Faraday]

did kittymo claim her jailer target last night?

[Faraday]

why did she jail dtm and not obv town ythill???

[Faraday]

(or reck to try and catch him in a lie)

[Faraday]

because she's a scum JK.

Lol I was actually asking her though, silly owl.

[Faraday]

because I was getting sick on myself apparently.


I'm a VT Sorry Nik, I had no info, and well you did fake a guilty lol

Also since DRK's at L-1, he's either scum or all the scum are on the wagon I think.

[Faraday]

oh I thought it was 4 to lynch, never mind THAT then.

[Faraday]

so you create a random role that targets a random player. lol ok.

[Faraday]

I'm here and am planning on doing a re-read and stuff to try and see who's the scum.

Reck who do you think DRK's scumbuddies are?

[Faraday]

*waits for Faraday/DTMaster to drop the hammer*

> implying I'm scum.

[Faraday]

Unvote VOTE Deathrowkitty

[Faraday]

p.s. dtm/drk/??? is the scumteam. we just need to find the 3rd member. it's obv not kittymo.

[Faraday]

kittymo you should jail reck to keep him alive tonight.

[Faraday]

Lol if Reck's not a cop here I'll consider keeping this avatar foreveerrrrrrrr

[Faraday]

Is it because your team doesn't have a kill-immune godfather, Faraday?

Because unless you're claiming

yet another

town power role, that's the only way I see you being 99% sure that my specific role does not exist.

LOL, well actually.

[Faraday]

I enjoyed this game (probably because I won). I thought Neto was OBV scum day 1. Like seriously surprised he wasn't lynched. I think I've got a personal scumtell on him so that helps. I was itching from not bussing harder and then TL came along.

Eh, DTM I don't think he had an actual case on me? I don't even know that he was voting me, but imploding like that helps no one in the game and will generally get you lynched.

UK was obv town so we killed her. <3 Sorry, nothing personal obviously. Reck not dying was bizzare to the extreme. No idea what happened and then Cuttle was lynched >_> Haha don't fake guilties

Yeah MYLO was too easy. I stand by my not no lynching, in this case it wouldn't make sense, but really the town just looked like they couldn't give a fuck to try and win. See : SFG's self vote, Haylen's lazy play.

Just happy to keep up my scumwin streak, despite really not playing that well.

[Faraday]

Also is this the first time scum have won an /in-vitational?

[Faraday]

Uh, SFG you were pretty 'offensive?' at times I guess. You told me to go fuck myself, reck too iirc. I actually don't care about that but I can see why people would find it unacceptable.

I thought you played the miller really well fwiw.

[Faraday]

HUGS. Look forward to playing with you all again, at first I was slightly annoyed I was scum, but then quickly realised how much I prefer being scum as much as possible <3

Look forward to

nightkilling

playing with you all in the future.

[Faraday]

my fav part was how Ythill ignored Faraday's obvious buddying scumtell and thought the reverse would clear them both when it didn't. I honestly thought he'd be scum at one point :U

I didn't lie about that, I do buddy as town just as much so ;D