Open 233: Ninja Mafia Boogaloo - Over!

[PaltryExcuse]

EBWOP:
VOTE: ConfidAnon

[Zajnet]

I'm here. Sorry I haven't been posting much, life just always seems to find another curveball to throw. Enigma is leaning town for me because of his last few posts, decent logic against Zorblag, etc. I need to reread Zorblag to see better what I think of him, and I need to reread ConfidAnon to see what AGar is talking about.

[PaltryExcuse]

Speak of the devil and he returns.

@Mod: Did you send Zajnet a prod?

[Zajnet]

I haven't received one.

[PaltryExcuse]

Hm. Ignore that last question mod and the prod request for Zajnet.

[Col.Cathart]

IMPORTANT: I will be unavailable this weekend and I dunno exactly when I'll be back during next week. Emergency situation, my Mom is in hospital, so I need to stay with her until she gets better.

[AGar]

I need to re-read a past game of mine, but I may be ready to also endorse a Troll wagon if no steam gets behind a CA wagon. Also willing to highlight points of the CA wagon, if anyone needs (although his ISO should take all of 5 minutes).

[StrangerCoug]

Assume

I was the cop in this game.
Why would I claim cop?
There is a 50% chance I may due unprotected due to a medic in this game.
There is a 50% chance I will be redundant this game due to a role blocker.
There is a 50% chance a Watcher will catch one scum on me.

Best bit, the effectiveness of this role is cumulative on a number of probabilities. Then you need to weigh in the chance that town believes you as a majority and also each particular power role player actually trusts you.

Can someone explain the benefits of a PR claiming on day one? Why would you want to pressure a town power role to claim unless

absolutely

scummy and guaranteed L-0.
Because if I had a power role I would rather take my chances with the angry mob.

NOW

you recognize the existence of town power roles (most likely).

I'm sorry if my player self is still acting on the tried and true, but there are

VERY

few times town should be fakeclaiming. If you really feel that you have a dispensable enough power role to fake vanilla and resign to your lynch and making enemies is the least of your concerns, then be my guest.

Also good luck with your role reads. I'm sure it does fantastic with over a dozen eager VT's.

Uhh... That's not my job. That's what I implied what you were doing.

PS: Lovely exaggeration with the "major" HOS.
Why don't you vote me out if I'm that scummy and save me the effort? Thanks.

Because Zajnet is scummier and a more viable lynch than you.

Hay SC why is Zaj a better lynch than Enigma right now?

My read on Enigma requires both a roleblocker and a ninja to be on the mark since I believe he slipped that information; my read on Zajnet is independent of the setup.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Not much has changed. Still voting Enigma. Still waiting for everyone else to do the same.

[AGar]

Not much has changed. Still voting Enigma. Still waiting for everyone else to do the same.

ConfidAnon wagon is so much better, SV. You know it, too.

[Papa Zito]

As the arguing continues, the two hanging onto the dead pilot decide to cast off because, you know, yuck.

As they search among the scattered bits of debris, they come up with several useful bits - some jagged bits from the wing, a pipe or pole or something or other, some nice large pieces of glass from the cockpit, and some other odds and ends of things. As the others in the raft push and shove and tell yo momma jokes, these two (with the help of copious amounts of Big League Chew which they happen to have on them) begin CONSTRUCTION! (?)

Meanwhile, a second dorsal fin has joined the first, unnoticed by the rest of the group.

Seventh Votecount of Day 1

1. Col.Cathart (0):
2. KageLord (0):
3. Chronopie (1): curiouskarmadog
4. ConfidAnon (2): AGar, PaltryExcuse
5. Gammagooey (0):
6. AGar (0):
7. Zajnet (4): smashbro_of_the_SSS, ConfidAnon, StrangerCoug, KageLord
8. Zorblag (1): Enigma
9. tumescence (2): Zorblag, Beefster
10. Enigma (4): Gammagooey, Col.Cathart, silverbullet999, Shattered Viewpoint
11. StrangerCoug (0):
12. smashbro_of_the_SSS (0):
13. Beefster (0):
14. Shattered Viewpoint (3): Sotty7, Zajnet, Chronopie
15. Sotty7 (0):
16. PaltryExcuse (0):
17. curiouskarmadog (0):
18. silverbullet999 (0):

Players not voting: tumescence

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch.
The current wagon leader is

Enigma

at L-5.
Deadline: August 4th @ 11:59PM CST

Chronopie, smashbro_of_the_SSS, and Zorblag have been prodded.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Not much has changed. Still voting Enigma. Still waiting for everyone else to do the same.

ConfidAnon wagon is so much better, SV. You know it, too.

Confid can be tomorrow.

Enigma today.

[Chronopie]

/prodded

Not much has changed. Still voting Enigma. Still waiting for everyone else to do the same.

ConfidAnon wagon is so much better, SV. You know it, too.

Confid can be tomorrow.

Enigma today.

I can endorse this (for all that my word's worth)

unvote

VOTE: Enigma

[StrangerCoug]

"For all that [your] word's worth," Chronopie? What makes you say that?

[Gammagooey]

Enigma- I know it was sarcasm, but let me tell you how I scumhunt, because if this is how you normally scumhunt we obviously do it a lot differently.
What I do best is look for posts that seem forced, that don't quite fit in right with what the person is saying, posts that bother me by how they're made and trying to understand the thought process behind them. A lot of this is gut reads and then rereading the posts and trying to find exactly what bothers me about it and why so that I can explain it to others.

This usually doesn't result in long posts for me, and I don't give a damn about all the things that you think people may have missed, because every single word of it is in the thread to be read and reread at any time. What I care about are the conclusions from the stuff in thread, because that is what will be off if someone is trying to subtly push in the wrong direction, and that is what makes connections between the players to be examined later, and you have had absolutely none of that until your most recent post with the reasoning for your vote on Zor. Your mega-post had a whole lot of words and implied suspicions but you didn't bother concentrating on a single one of those suspicions in the same post, and it looks a hell of a lot like scum testing the waters with a bunch of suspicions to see which ones he can get support with instead of town focusing in on who he thinks is scum.

[Chronopie]

"For all that [your] word's worth," Chronopie? What makes you say that?

Consider my play. my meta. my past history of being

completely, utterly

, wrong.

[silverbullet999]

Moving Vote, Hopping Wagon as Enigma has made interesting posties
UNVOTE: Vote:Confid

Apologies for not posting lots, been busy and can only hop on at nights.

[Beefster]

sb999's post looks pretty opportunistic to me. And it adds up with tumescence's post... more or less.

HoS: silverbullet999

I found it pretty strange when tumescence came out an made one and only one analysis on sb999, but put him in the pro-town bin. To me, this looks like a major newbscum move. It looks like he's trying to deflect suspicion from a scumpal, and doing poorly.

[silverbullet999]

I love that everything I've been doing lately in all my games has been opportunistic...

am I not allowed to hop a wagon in a large game to add pressure to said suspect?

[Enigma]

Only if you provide reasonable doubt as to why you are.

[AGar]

sb999's post looks pretty opportunistic to me. And it adds up with tumescence's post... more or less.

HoS: silverbullet999

Opportunistic? What?

I'm sorry, but opportunistic usually indicates hopping on a leading wagon and forwarding something that's already got a bit of steam. The ConfidAnon wagon currently consists of me, PaltryExcuse and now Silverbullet. He left a wagon tied for the lead to hop on it, and now the Zajnet wagon is leading, with ConfidAnon, Enigma and Shattered Viewpoint all jockeying behind with 3 votes apiece.

Also, I find it interesting that you feel ConfidAnon is posting content... Can you outline this? I can look at his iso and find opportunistic voting on two wagons, no real content, a lot of "I agree with X" and attempting to play the newbie card when called out on that. Where is this content-producing that I'm missing?

[curiouskarmadog]

busy weekend, posting on sunday or monday, might be overlooking it, but I think I am seeing a bunch of people not answering my questions....

[Sotty7]

I'm interested to see Troll's reaction to Enigma's clarification on him.

I am going to have read all the top suspects at some point to get my head straight. I hope to get that done by the end of the weekend.

[StrangerCoug]

am I not allowed to hop a wagon in a large game to add pressure to said suspect?

Only if you provide reasonable doubt as to why you are.

I fail to make sense out of the second post. Explain.

[Beefster]

Eh. Opportunistic isn't really the right word. I probably should have just gone with his post seeming odd to me, as well as seeing a possible connection with tumescence. I tend to get too caught up in providing good reasons.

But seriously, why hasn't anyone talked about tumescence?