Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

Jack · Post Post #550 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:19 pm

jaap.

Friend · Post Post #551 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:24 pm

I see where you're coming from but meh Kov's scummier.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #552 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:36 pm

It's weird. Kov's lurky scummy, TL's obviously scummy, IP is situationally scummy. It's hard to choose.

InflatablePie · Post Post #553 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:23 pm

Unvote, Vote: TL

- yeah, not liking that wagon vote after all.

DH, if TL is so obviously scummy, why isn't your vote on him? You should know that lurking isn't a scumtell on its own. Your post implies that you find Kov most scummy for lurking over everything else. So why isn't TL higher on your list of suspicions?

Being that I'm equally suspicious of both of these players now, it also comes across to me as Vote: Townie/FoS: Buddy.

Fugi really needs to stop tunneling and actually look at other players. I know I have discussed Albert B. Rampage's article on "focusing on scum" with you and others in IRC, but there is a fine line between focusing on someone you think is scum and tunneling. You think I'm scum? Fine. List your other suspects at least.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #554 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:45 pm

Town players can look "obviously" scummy. Sometimes the lurky players can be more dangerous. You know this.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #555 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:47 pm

EBWOP: I just feel like Kov has slipped a bit more, and while TL has outwardly freaked out and yelled and expressed his thoughts on this and that and yadda yadda, I just feel like Kov is a better lynch because of his actions. Like I said earlier, TL is not the lynch for today for me.

InflatablePie · Post Post #556 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:51 pm

So you'd rather lynch based on possibility than probability, from your POV? And obviously =/= "obviously".

PEdit: This still kinda contadicts your point about how "obviously scummy" TL is.

Friend · Post Post #557 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:51 pm

TL seems more scummy because of his general attitude than his actions.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #558 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:54 pm

Friend wrote:TL seems more scummy because of his general attitude than his actions.

Thanks, Friend. Exactly this, I can't get my thoughts together today.

And I should have put "obviously" in quotes in my first post. Consider this an EBWOP.

TheLonging · Post Post #559 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:09 pm

InflatablePie wrote:
Unvote, Vote: TL
- yeah, not liking that wagon vote after all.
>Wagon vote
>Wanting to lynch DH most of the game
If you assume I'm town for a second, what's the right trope for this? Really

DH, if TL is so obviously scummy, why isn't your vote on him? You should know that lurking isn't a scumtell on its own. Your post implies that you find Kov most scummy for lurking over everything else. So why isn't TL higher on your list of suspicions?
Because he realizes I MIGHT be town for once! :O
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TheLonging · Post Post #560 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:10 pm

Friend wrote:TL seems more scummy because of his general attitude than his actions.

I think all of you people are daft. I might as well explain why I'm being so pissy to all of you and why I'm overreacting.

Hint for you people I've played with: josseppe SHM3

DemonHybrid · Post Post #561 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:12 pm

Ugh.

What does Joss in SHM3 have anything to do with this game? He didn't have the attitude that you have this game, which is what the current conversation is about.

Friend · Post Post #562 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:17 pm

TL's been hinting at a PR the whole game, which is what I assume he's doing here.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #563 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:18 pm

Lets make the playing field level.

Josseppe was a Tracker in our Scorehero Mafia 3 game. He also claimed D1 and chilled back for a while afterwards, only dying after he was replaced by someone else.

TheLonging · Post Post #564 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:19 pm

Friend wrote:TL's been hinting at a PR the whole game, which is what I assume he's doing here.

HEY WHAT DO YOU KNOW I THINK SOMEONE GETS IT

DH: I am a tracker, I'm claiming D1, I have no intention of chilling out

DemonHybrid · Post Post #565 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:20 pm

You weren't even close to a lynch...

ortiz1193 · Post Post #566 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:21 pm

Well since Friend posted it... yes TL has been hinting a PR all game, which is why I've been calling him town despite his scumminess.

For those who don't know Josseppe claimed tracker with two votes on him in Day 1 of a 25 person game. >_>

Preview edit lol ninjas

TheLonging · Post Post #567 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:21 pm

I was at L-1/L-2 once or twice before. I'd wager 40% - 60% of this game thinks I am scum. I have every right to claim. Joss was at 2 or 3 votes and claimed.

See I can use meta in an argument as long as I have other reasons for backing it up.

TheLonging · Post Post #568 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:22 pm

Also in that same game I claimed a PR my first post. Do you think I'm fucking around here?

Friend · Post Post #569 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:22 pm

Fucking christ, TL, why would you claim here?

Kov, meanwhile, remains scum.

TheLonging · Post Post #570 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:25 pm

Why? Because I'm creating a WIFOM pool for scum to wade in. All I know is, I am certain I am tracker.

I want to be adamantly clear about this: I will have every right to speculate. Unless this game will turn into Follow The Tracker/Cop, there has to be a roleblocker (I've never been in a game without one). I want to also make this adamantly clear: I believe Kov and DH are scum (or one of them), but neither one is a roleblocker. I'm guessing Pie might be.

Unvote

Vote: InflatablePie

Say all you want. I don't care. It's My Way or the High Way here for me. If you want to join the wagon to lynch scum feel free.

TheLonging · Post Post #571 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:25 pm

Friend wrote:Fucking christ, TL, why would you claim here?

Kov, meanwhile, remains scum.

You and others kind of all guess I softclaimed a PR, but some people think that might equate to a scum PR (because yeah, I'll TOTALLY breadcrumb a SCUM PR).

InflatablePie · Post Post #572 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:26 pm

Unvote

By the way, while two people have voted for you, I wasn't wagoning on you just to wagon like you're making it out to be. I had reasons and I've pointed out my suspicions on you in the past. And I don't know what trope you're talking about.

By chance, did you leave any breadcrumbs at all, TL?

@DH: My vote made him tied with you, close to a lynch or not. He jumped into a candidate slot, so I can understand the claim a bit. It still does seem odd, hence why I'm thinking it over, but I notice that scum claim more towards close-to-lynch and townies usually claim earlier on (WIFOM etc). Lynching PR claims D1 usually doesn't end well though. Leaning towards town for now.

Guess I'm back to

Vote: Demon

, then.

Friend · Post Post #573 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:27 pm

Being a PR =/= you being right about scum.

Kov's scumminess > Pie's scumminess in my eyes but if the wagon does take off I'll join it. I'd just rather have a Kov lynch.

TheLonging · Post Post #574 (ISO) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:29 pm

TheLonging wrote:itt pie doesn't read my posts (or not good enough)

There's only 1 scenario where I could be town. Come on, think about it. Don't stress yourself out too hard thinking about this.

TheLonging wrote:Pie; scumreads change over time. Hope you notice that. You're one of the most active out of the 5, but...

think of it this way. x/5

DH: 4.78/5 (posts a lot and has a lot of scummy stuff)
Kov: 4.40/5 (hardly posts, BW'd me, said really stupid stuff, only made up for it later (like, last page later)
Twomz: 4.35/5 (ortiz's case is good, and Twomz seems anti-town)
Jack: 4.30/5 (not much content to be found, I don't like most of what he does make, but people say it's how he usually plays, so whatever. He seemed to be playing mostly the same in a marathon game I was with him in, he turned up scum)
You: 4.15/5 (posts a lot, and has SOME towny stuff to balance out the scummy stuff)

This informed I was going to track DH, or you.

TheLonging wrote:Meh this game is losing interest to me, with what us still being on D1. If tomorrow we're still making noise I'll do something.

And most of today was lolnoise.