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[FakeGod]

I would've also investigated UK actually...

[FakeGod]

EBWOP: If I were a cop that is.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

jelly jiggler (2): screl1, UncertainKitten
UncertainKitten (3): Twomz, FakeGod, jelly jiggler
Not voting (4): diginova, Me=Weird, Nobody Special, PieMan

With

9

players alive, it takes

5

players to lynch.

[Me=Weird]

Interesting. Twomz, do you really want to figure out your sanity by lynching UK, with nothing else, no case, no nothing? My official V/LA is over, but I won't be able to give much content until thursday, after which I will be productive and active.

[PieMan]

Thiz iz an insain thought
But we n33d som3thing 2 discuzz, zo..

Iz it possible, Twomz wuz tring 2 ghet a mislynch while UK wuz in V/LA?

It wuld B a risky plai, but UK had onli ben gone 4 3 dais.

Thiz iz all spekulation.

[Nobody Special]

It crossed my mind. I do need to re-read here and post some thoughts. Hopefully, today.

[Twomz]

Uk is on V/LA?

[UncertainKitten]

I was on V/LA for most of the night and the start of the day. People should probably, you know, pay attention.

[jelly jiggler]

Are you saying that it would be worth his time to fake claim cop so early in the game?

[UncertainKitten]

@JJ: Are you trying to answer a question very specifically asked to someone else in a bid to defend them? Cause that wouldn't be cool. Not cool at all :O.

[PieMan]

@JJ It culd, I doubt taht iz waht iz teh case. Killing a strong playzorz, culd b a gude benefit.

[diginova]

To begin, I realize that my slot originally was wagoned becuase of gross inactivity, and I apologize for not being any better than that. Time for my reads over the first 18 pages, and I'll be more active from here on out.

There really hasn't been much in the way of overall reads, with the wagons mainly based on a point or two, so I'm going to make reads on the main wagons, starting with jj. (Sorry about the long post; it's pretty much my slot's first post in 18 pages.)

JellyJiggler

In Iso4, you go after xvart-town for his #65. While #65 has almost no information in it, I'm not seeing anything worth a vote. His view on vezok-town is on a very minor point, and though it is blown slightly out of proportion, doesn't really deserve a vote. His vote on FakeGod is worse, as it's just based on WIFOM, yet nothing in that post is really worth a vote. FakeGod's response in 88 is worse, as it's pretty much just OMGUS that was waiting until someone else added suspicion so he could fly under the radar.

In Iso6, you state that it's better to look for people going after people who are joking because they're trying to start a lynch out of nothing. That is just wrong. The whole point of the RVS stage in a game is to get people discussing, and if nobody takes those points and runs with it, we would never actually get into useful discussion that would help us find scum.

It is interesting that in your very next post you tell xvart "good luck trying to figure out who is joking on the internet", yet your previous post is based off of finding people who are joking. Overall rather null, but interesting nonetheless.

Iso8-14 really say nothing. They're all one-line posts replying to an OMGUS vote and giving background information without scumhunting.

In Iso15 he's saying that active lurking is an unreliable scumtell. An interesting opinion since you were pretty much active lurking for the last 4 days.

Iso18 is his claim. I'm not sure what to think of his vanilla claim, as any useful reaction that I could analyze is muddied by Tazaro's massive bursts of craplogic. Truthfully, I find a VT claim to be a null read, as this is a theme game and the scum have probably been given fakeclaims, and by claiming vanilla you don't have to make up anything down the line.

Iso19-21 he elaborates on his position on active lurking, and then has an exchange with UK about her implicating him.

Based on their overall interactions, I really don't thing that UK and jj are on the same side, as they seem to be leading each other and trying to rile each other up. If jj flips town, UK is probably scum, and vice versa. More in my UK analysis later.

Though he says he's not distancing himself from screl in Iso22, he is, with most of his analysis being at best grossly overanalyzed and at worst craplogic.

Moving into day 2, following up on Iso28:

On a list of most useful people xvart would probably be near the top while piraka being dead last. It's a pretty safe assumption if you consider the alternative of 2 mafia kills a day.

Why would the scum *not* choose to kill a claimed power role? Vezo's horrendous breadcrumb in 49 (not even really a breadcrumb since he just claimed his roles outright) would give scum an incentive to kill before Vezo's myriad powers can take effect.

I almost think this isn't even worth an answer. A stupid vote deserves a stupid vote. Besides, screl was my 1st choice at the end of day 1.

JJ:

How did the flips and the information we gained based on voting patterns and nightkills confirm your suspicions on screl, thus giving a reason for it and making it not an OMGUS vote?

PieMan

I hate you, SC, for giving out that post restriction. It's just evil.
Just wanted to touch on one thing from PieMan: the post that eventually got Tazaro modkilled. Tazaro claimed in 390 that he had only been in one completed game, and was in 4 more ongoing. Also, he was overall very jumpy, and was defending every time someone even said anything about him. What did you think asking him for his meta would do that you couldn't get from clicking twice and just finding the games yourself?

My reaction to the cop result and UK's posts coming up next.

[screl1]

@FakeGod - At the end of day one you had your vote on JJ. Then you go on to say that you would have investigated UK on night one. If you found UK so scummy why wasn't your vote on him at the end of the day? What makes you suspicious of UK?

@Twomz - AGAIN - why did you decided to investigate UK over everyone else? After going back I noticed your vote was also sitting on JJ at the end of day one.

[Twomz]

Meta actually, and a previous game we'd played in. Thought about JJ and other scummy players, but figured they'd be more likely to get vigged, so I went for someone I had a null tell on at the time.

[FakeGod]

@screl: I would investigate UK not because she is the most scummy player in this game, but because UK is a very active player. If I knew her alignment, I would get a lot of information on other players she interacts with. (based on who she finds townie, and who she finds scum)

[UncertainKitten]

Yeah, the logic of investigating me does make sense, it's just I dislike how Twomz just herp derp trusts results in a bastard game. But I'm more concerned with the people herp derping on the wagon.

[jelly jiggler]

This being only my 3rd game I wasn't aware of the possibility of a insane cop. However I will still probably keep my vote on UK because I think it's still a better bet than any speculation you guys will come up with. So for now I am going to risk it and keep my vote on UK.

[UncertainKitten]

So, despite the fact I've given you a meta link of SC using non sane cops, you'll just assume that Twomz is sane? Yeah, that sure looks townie all right. I think we should just listen to whatever jelly jiggler says. No one can hope to beat his mafia theory. He is simply the best there is.

[FakeGod]

He is simply the best there is.

I like your reasoning.

[jelly jiggler]

Hey I'm not telling you to listen to me. I'm just posting because you will be asking a billion questions later on.

[PieMan]

@diginova @ teh tiem I sadly did knot notice taht he had only completed 1 gaem. I wuz wanting 2 C if he wuz akting similar 2 hiz town tiemz. Rally I just dint want 2 go through teh muk of hiz posts 2 find hiz gaemz, plus then he culd sai more in termz of eech, and just tri to explain any oddities.

[PieMan]

@JJ besidez teh cop theory, Y iz UK a maf? Plox break it down 4 uz, some of uz R blind.

[Nobody Special]

It crossed my mind. I do need to re-read here and post some thoughts. Hopefully, today.

Unfortunately, that didn't happen yesterday. Nor will it today. I should be able to be caught up by morning (~16 hours).

[UncertainKitten]

Hey I'm not telling you to listen to me. I'm just posting because you will be asking a billion questions later on.

If you're a townie trying to find scum and you think you've found them, why do you NOT want people to listen to you? You're not making sense, and you deftly evaded my question.

[PieMan]

K I wuz thinking, and cince JJ iz prolly sleepingz

Who wuld kill xvart? Taz, yes, but ded. JJ? cant B less he lied. No1 else seemd 2 think he wuz maf. less I missed som1.

So we hav a sniper? I think itz called, or sum1 wuz stupid, or teh maf haz 2 waiz 2 kill?

Id sai mayb a snipe, prolly infectzord progz.


Rally most of taht wuz just so I kan sleep and knot think about it for teh next hour.