Mini 990: YuGiOh! The Abridged Mafia - (OVER)

[Fishythefish]

Or rather

vote: Brandi

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTECOUNT!

Brandi (2) - Charter, Fishythefish
bv310 (0) -
charter (0) -
FakeGod (2) - bv310, Brandi
Fishythefish (0) -
MaxMouse (0) -

6 alive, 4 to lynch

[FakeGod]

Bv's recent post certainly helps my decision.

Vote: FakeGod

So you admit you were just waiting for some support before bandwagonning here.

However, if FG -is- scum, he's an SK, and there is still one more mafia out there, obviously, because there were 2 kills. Which is VERY likely to be Charter.

Makes no sense. Because SK isn't scum, and I'm not scum. I'm also not SK because there was no Brooklyn Rage on night 1, and SKs must shoot every night.

As Charter reasoned out,

If I were mafia, how would I know to breadcrumb vig before vig actually showed up? (there were no vig kills on night 1, remember?)

If I were SK, how did I not shoot on night 1?

Therefore, I'm town vig.

[Brandi]

No, BV got snake eyes on you. If it weren't for that I would have voted charter.

If I end up being lynched today you best believe you're dead tomorrow FG. It doesn't matter who you kill, you're obv scum at this point.

And yes, SK is scum. Anything anti-town is scum. Not all scum are Mafia.

[Brandi]

And like PIE said, you could have started as TOWN, then TURNED SK after your sister died.

[Brandi]

not PIE, BV**** sorry.

[FakeGod]

Vote: Brandi

You're at L-1.

bv, you're claiming some sort of a role cop.

Well, I accidentally shot the town cop already, and I don't think RBT's going to put 2 cops in a mini theme.

If we don't win with Brandi's lynch, I'm gunning you down.

Preview: flailing scum is flailing.

[Brandi]

also Fishy your points are null.

I'd more likely beleive FG too, but how do you explain BV getting SNAKE EYES on FG?

1.) WIFOM (scum left me alive to get my lynched today- looks like it's working!)
2.) We seem to have a good amount of power roles this game ourselves.
3) Obviously, because I thought I'd be dead. I admit that was a bad decision on my part, but bad decisions does not make someone scum.

[Brandi]

Vote: Brandi

bv, you're claiming some sort of a role cop.

Well, I accidentally shot the town cop already, and I don't think RBT's going to put 2 cops in a mini theme.

If we don't win with Brandi's lynch, I'm gunning you down.

Translation: Once Brandi turns up TOWN DOCTOR, I'm using it as an excuse to kill the towns last power role!

Jesus Christ way to make yourself even more obvious.

[Brandi]

So once I'm dead tonight, and pop up as Doc, Fg will kill BV, and scum will kill someone else. Then what will be left with?

[Fishythefish]

1) Leaving a doctor alive out of WIFOM and going for the most protown player runs a

massive

risk that your kill is stopped, the doctor is semi-confirmed and the town get an extra lynch. I'm really not seeing that as a likely scum strategy.
2) Who is the "we" in "we seem to have a good amount of power roles this game ourselves"? This seems like a scumslip, because "we" being the town makes no sense in response to my point.
3) You're being rather inconsistent on why you protected charter. Either you had a reason (that you thought scum would target charter to frame you), or it was because you thought you'd be dead and it didn't matter.

AFAIC, we have no idea what bv's role does. I think basing decisions on it seems unwise.

[Brandi]

It'll look like this:

Still have their duel discs: (3/12)
charter (Most likely scum and will still be alive)
FakeGod (will still be alive unless scum kills him)
Fishythefish (???)
MaxMouse (???)

-1 of the above^


We will most likely be down to 1 SK, 1 Scum, and 1 townie on D4.

or 1 scum, 2 townies. (if they kill FG)

I'm not sure but if an SK is killed by a mafia kill does their kill go through? But I doubt Scum would kill FG at night.

[FakeGod]

@Brandi: Doctors who don't save obvious town PRs, like a town Doublevoter, aren't doctors.

And Brandi, I'm also not going to survive if you flip scum. There's no way mafia's going to let a vig into the 3-way LYLO.

Because it would be auto-win for town when they no lynch and me and maf shoot each other.

[FakeGod]

EBWOP: if you flip town

[Fishythefish]

FG: if Brandi should flip doc, I don't think you should be shooting bv. MaxMouse and charter are better candidates for scum. bv hasn't claimed rolecop, he's claimed an unknown role or set of roles.

[Brandi]

1) Leaving a doctor alive out of WIFOM and going for the most protown player runs a

massive

risk that your kill is stopped, the doctor is semi-confirmed and the town get an extra lynch. I'm really not seeing that as a likely scum strategy.
2) Who is the "we" in "we seem to have a good amount of power roles this game ourselves"? This seems like a scumslip, because "we" being the town makes no sense in response to my point.
3) You're being rather inconsistent on why you protected charter. Either you had a reason (that you thought scum would target charter to frame you), or it was because you thought you'd be dead and it didn't matter.

AFAIC, we have no idea what bv's role does. I think basing decisions on it seems unwise.

1) Well I'm sorry, but this is what scum did.
2) We as in we townies? I'm saying that the TOWN has a lot of power as well, so your point that the scum are overpowered doesn't count for much. Yes it does make sense.
3) It was both, how is that inconsistency. I thought I'd most likely be dead, but if scum WERE going to keep me alive, they'd kill Charter. That's what I'd do if I were scum wanting to frame a doctor.

[bv310]

I actually think my role corresponds more to Shepherd Book, in the game I linked earlier. (JOAT with no control over ability)

[Brandi]

@Brandi: Doctors who don't save obvious town PRs, like a town Doublevoter, aren't doctors.

And Brandi, I'm also not going to survive if you flip scum. There's no way mafia's going to let a vig into the 3-way LYLO.

Because it would be auto-win for town when they no lynch and me and maf shoot each other.

Also I guess I'm a shitty doctor then.
UM. WHAT? YOU THINK THERE ARE 4 SCUM IN THIS GAME? IF I WERE TO FLIP SCUM- WHY WOULD YOU THINK THERE IS ANOTHER? COME ON SRSLY. You don't make any sense and its making me feel even more sure that you ARE an SK.

[Brandi]

DISREGARD, I DIDN"T PREVIEW.

BUT MY FIRST LINE STILL STANDS.

[Brandi]

FG: if Brandi should flip doc, I don't think you should be shooting bv. MaxMouse and charter are better candidates for scum. bv hasn't claimed rolecop, he's claimed an unknown role or set of roles.

He's going to shoot BV anyway because he's scum. You saying that to him won't matter.

[FakeGod]

I actually think my role corresponds more to Shepherd Book, in the game I linked earlier. (JOAT with no control over ability)

dude I skimmed that game when you told me to, but other than cool pictures of some tv show characters (?), I couldn't figure out what exactly Shepherd does. (he couldn't hammer I think, and he could choose someone to save for 50% chance he saves I think?)

FG: if Brandi should flip doc, I don't think you should be shooting bv. MaxMouse and charter are better candidates for scum. bv hasn't claimed rolecop, he's claimed an unknown role or set of roles.

Which is why it's frustrating. I have absolutely no idea what he does or what do the numbers mean. He should just full claim in my opinion.

Unvote

to give chance for people who wants to claim

[Fishythefish]

1) Well I'm sorry, but this is what scum did.
2) We as in we townies? I'm saying that the TOWN has a lot of power as well, so your point that the scum are overpowered doesn't count for much. Yes it does make sense.
3) It was both, how is that inconsistency. I thought I'd most likely be dead, but if scum WERE going to keep me alive, they'd kill Charter. That's what I'd do if I were scum wanting to frame a doctor.

1) Fair enough. No more you can say about that; I continue to find it unlikely.
2) would work if I'd been saying the scum are overpowered. However, what I said was:
"2. doc/cop/mason-turned-vig is a very overpowered town."
that's pretty clear. How did you think I was saying the scum are overpowered?
3) OK. I think your decision is unlikely for a doc, but I see what you are saying.

[FakeGod]

Does anyone remember a sure-fire way to test for doc's legitimacy?

I thought it could be done if town had bunch of Mislynches and a vig.

*leaves to go eat*

[Brandi]

I don't think I've ever been a doctor before in a non-marathon game, and I'll admit, I haven't made the best decisions, I think protecting GM the first night was the only good thing I've done. I was HOPING I'd be dead today because I knew town was better off without me- because instead of you guys all thinking I'm scum, you'd actually be SCUM HUNTING.


But if you guys want to lynch me, fine. But FG, if you really are town, then DONT kill BV.

But even still, mafia will likely want BV dead because he is towns last power role.

So if FG claims he isn't going to shoot BV, scum will do it. Then FG is still going to kill someone else.

BEST CASE SCENARIO, whether FG is scum or NOT, Scum goes to kill BV, and FG goes and manages to shoot SCUM, and perhaps BV is still alive and scum is dead, then we either WIN THE GAME (with FG being town) or have another day (WITH FG being an SK)

PREVIEW EDIT:

2) would work if I'd been saying the scum are overpowered. However, what I said was:
"2. doc/cop/mason-turned-vig is a very overpowered town."
that's pretty clear. How did you think I was saying the scum are overpowered?

I thought you were saying scum would be overpowered if FG is an SK.

[Brandi]

Oh right, scum might still want to shoot FG, whether he is town or not.

So maybe FG shoots scum and scum shoots FG, or scum shoots FG, and FG shoots someone else.

Really though FG, if you are town, you shouldn't care so much if you live or not. Town vig wins with the town, of course. Having 2 kills tomorrow night would make us lose the game. In fact unless you are absolutely certain about someone being scum, I don't think you should shoot anyone.

[Fishythefish]

unvote

Thinking about some stuff.