Open 236 - Pamplona Mafia (C9++) Game Over

[Ythan]

Hey yabba no part of that case on me makes sense in a "Ythan is scum and here's why" sense.

[yabbaguy]

Doesn't mean I can't wagon you. The cases Ald, Fonz, and whoever else have been making have been clearly valid, from what I perceive, you're getting dodgy about a simple inquiry over a policy question which you didn't

really

ask for technicality's sake, but was so, so rolefishing. You claim you weren't sure of the impact, but I don't believe you on that.

So, that doesn't matter. That's how wagonning works. My other modus operandi could've been to say "wow good points, vote: Ythan", but I thought I might as well point out what I thought to be true as well.

I still believe the meta's true. But in any event, you look scummy in this game notwithstanding the comparisons to others, so it works either way up.

[Alduskkel]

Limited access until Sunday.

But according to his wiki, [Ythan]'s only been lynched once as Town-aligned, so I looked there (skimmed through MN930; two months old). At least when he was under suspicion, he appeared to be behaving rationally (self-vote aside).

Self-voting usually isn't rational unless the only other option is no lynch. Also, thinking that Ythan is the same person now as he was two months ago is nonsense.

[yabbaguy]

I probably did fuck up on the meta read calling it categorically accurate. Still a good wagon even without that aspect. I thought 2 months wouldn't be a substantial difference anyway, that's seldom shorter than the span of a typical MS game, I'd figure. I don't think I was in the wrong to at least deliberate bringing it up.

[The Fonz]

Reading Ythan is kinda hard since... y'know, people don't normally admit that there is absolutely no protown reason for their actions.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ythan, are you scum?

[Ythan]

Ythan, are you scum?

I'm town. This is a stupid question. Ask one that isn't stupid please.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Why did you baby beef so long?

[Ythan]

I have trouble with ending pointless discussions on my own. Why are you still asking irrelevant questions instead of ones that might contribute to something useful? If you think that last question had some purpose other than keeping your post count up, please enlighten me.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I don't know, maybe he is your partner and you didn't want him to fall through the cracks too early, but when you realized he was just a dumb ass you backed off

[Ythan]

Did you actually see what "babying" I did?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ya I know what you did, I get it I should ask more useful questions. How about this
What is your town to scum list?

[Ythan]

Are you asking me to rank every player in order from least to most scummy?

[drmyshottyizsik]

if you don't mind

[Ythan]

I do mind. I am not going to list who I find least suspicious. Those who I find most suspicious I have invariably attacked in the now seven-page thread.

[The Fonz]

Meh, I was going to use my vote to issue a call to arms for lurkerhunting here, but the worst lurker is the guy i'm already voting, and probably the worst active lurker is V/LA. So, yeah, join me on Netlava.

[yabbaguy]

Prod beef, Dry-fit, ekiM, and kyle99 please. They're all in range for one according to TDC's handy-dandy little gadget.

We can't have 1/3 of the game lurking. This game feels a lot like it's about to lose steam to the point where we're going to be an apathetic Town. I loathe playing these sorts of games.

[yabbaguy]

@Ythan: Most suspicious, then?

[Ythan]

Yab I believe that Dr's request for my suspects was an attempt to appear active. However, I'll give you a top scummies list.

[Ythan]

Al, then dr.

[Dry-fit]

Unvote. Vote: Ythan

You haven't adequately answered the points against you.

Hey kyle99, who do you suspect most?

Err, is it really not clear from my recent posts?

If Ythan is your top suspect, why aren't you voting for him?

[Ythan]

I find it suspect that in your four posts you have answered no questions that I have not answered, and that if you think I haven't done so satisfactorily you have not followed up yourself. Blatantly hopping onto my wagon with no proper justification.

[Ythan]

you have asked*

[Beefster]

I thought I posted pretty recently. Maybe I just didn't feel I had anything to add. Anyway, I've been wanting to say this for a while but forgot.

I'm not liking how Ythan is refusing to (basically) defend himself calling it spoonfeeding. Recapping is NOT spoonfeeding. I'd say spoonfeeding is more like building someone else's case for them. You're obviously hiding something.

[Nobody Special]

Please note the following

rule change:

Rule 12 has been changed from this

12) If you are prodded: You get ONE PROD. That's it. Respond in-thread within 36 hours or you will be replaced. If you require a second prod, you will not be getting one. You will be replaced, and you probably won't know about it until you get the PM that says you've been replaced.

to this:

12) If you are prodded: You must respond in-thread within 36 hours or you will be replaced. If you require a second prod, you will only have 24 hours to respond before a replacement is searched for. If you require a third prod, you are subject to replacement.

I am changing the rule due to the extreme circumstance of having four players require prods at this time.

Beefster, ekiM, and kyle99 have been prodded.