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[UncertainKitten]

This just in: Scum lie about their roles :O!

Vezok could possibly have done it either by accident or on purpose, since he claimed that weird JoaT thing and was indeed a JoaT. Don't forget he seemed to not know what did what with his programs.

Anyway, more on the JJ thing. Why can't JJ have lied and killed xvart? It's entirely possible xvart was the mafia kill, considering, you know, he was pretty much one of the very few people actually thinking things through and hunting scum.

[PieMan]

I wuz wrking under teh assumption of teh killing ben dun bai a Vigilante. in taht case, JJ wuld b highly unlikly 2 dew it, since he klaimed mousezorz.

Yeh he culd b maf, but a vig, Id sai, no, sniper, id sai prolly no also.

Az iz Vezo mak3z moar centz az teh maf kill, but he did sai xvart wuz prolly teh kill, so maib we r rong on who was maf killed, but who wuld have said vezo wuz a maf?, and Vig killed him?

[UncertainKitten]

Hmm...why does it have to be a vig? It's quite possible a serial killer is involved, so two anti town factions killed two strong town forces. That in fact seems to make the most sense I think.

...wait. Why the fuck are you asking who killed vezo and trying to OUT A VIG? What the fuck is wrong with you?

[PieMan]

No I m saing there prolly isnt a Vig.

And Serial Killzorz iz what I ment bai sniper.

Prolly mak3z moar sense noa taht teh term I m using is rite.

Yeh I even l00k3d it up 2 maek sure.

[UncertainKitten]

Derp. OK, I understand what you are saying now. Honestly, it's probably the post restriction that's throwing me off.

Yeah, it's pretty likely it's a serial killer.

[screl1]

Because everyone is so inactive for this day (including myself) I propose we lynch jj for the day - let towmz investigate someone else tonight and decide what to make of him/UK tomorrow.

[PieMan]

@screl Taht attitude s33mz off. Specially since we r currently waiting on a piece of inportent information taht culd giv uz a gude l00k @ UK and JJ, frum JJ's view.

Y knot tri 2 ghet a conversation going?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

jelly jiggler (2): screl1, UncertainKitten
UncertainKitten (3): Twomz, FakeGod, jelly jiggler
Not voting (4): diginova, Me=Weird, Nobody Special, PieMan

With

9

players alive, it takes

5

players to lynch.

[PieMan]

@FakeGod besidez teh cop theory, Y iz UK a maf? Plox break it down 4 uz, some of uz R blind.

I hav wanted 2 heer moar frum U and thiz iz a gude place 2 start.

[Me=Weird]

Sorry. A project has consumed my life for the past couple days. Good content will most likely be here tomorrow.

[PieMan]

Wat U making?

[PieMan]

*Fluff*

Zo odd thought Y did Strang hav 2 put in a Dram? Even on mai mini ATX I ghot 2 RAM slotz. Hek I M running a gig and a 2 gig.

*Fluff*

[Twomz]

Because everyone is so inactive for this day (including myself) I propose we lynch jj for the day - let towmz investigate someone else tonight and decide what to make of him/UK tomorrow.

I'm ok with this. If something does happen to me tonight, maybe it'll reveal my sanity on death or something. If I'm just roleblocked then meh, we'll get the RBer eventually if there is one.

unvote, vote: JJ

[PieMan]

zo we R gonna end teh dai reel erly?

[jelly jiggler]

It's sad that twomz would vote me knowing that he will probably die tomorrow. Anyway I was gone the entire today but its not like I'm really enthusiastic about posting anyway probably due to me being a vanilla.

So, despite the fact I've given you a meta link of SC using non sane cops, you'll just assume that Twomz is sane?

Yes I am willing to take that risk. You have provided some decent questions but there is still something very weird to me about your posts. But I'm still voting you mostly by chance because I don't see any good leads and I think a semi-random(because of my hunch) guess will catch scum more likely than speculation. Yeah I may be shooting myself in the foot by saying this stuff but I probably wouldn't post anything otherwise. Also scum often turn out to be the person you suspect least.

@JJ besidez teh cop theory, Y iz UK a maf? Plox break it down 4 uz, some of uz R blind.

Just a feeling. UK asks a lot a pointless questions in my opinion which kinda makes me feel that she is posting for the sake of posting but hey nothing is for certain and people play different ways, I know I do.

[PieMan]

Just a feeling. UK asks a lot a pointless questions in my opinion which kinda makes me feel that she is posting for the sake of posting but hey nothing is for certain and people play different ways, I know I do.

@JJ examplez plox

[Nobody Special]

zo we R gonna end teh dai reel erly?

We're at L-2 with JJ. What does this post mean?

[PieMan]

Peep seam 2 B up 4 killing JJ erly, I M juzt pointing out we culd spend wai moar tiem speeking first B4 killing ne1.

Tho personally I M thinking he iz just a Nub townzor.

[jelly jiggler]

Probably not as newb as you think. From what I have noticed people tend to underestimate often and confuse laziness with newbieness though I am not saying that I'm not mostly a newb.

@JJ examplez plox

1. "@jelly: You are acting like using people acting stupid is a bad basis for voting. Why?"
2. "How is leading people inherently anti town? People can think for themselves. Is he leading us in a way that benefits scum?"
3. "So, out of curiosity, what hits scum more often than town early game?"
4. "I'd rather actually discern if you are scum or not, and I believe you showing me what you believe to be content will help in that endeavor."
5. "@Pieman: What's wrong with being pushy? How does that assist scum?"
6. Her post #76 involves a lot of unnecessary anger and automatic assumption that I am going for an easy mislynch.
7. Her post #80 is overly paranoid if it was serious.

Unnecessary questions and some generally suspicious posts. Yeah I am going to sleep now.

[PieMan]

@ JJ Where R U tlking lazinezz?

@every1 I think I kno teh answer but Id rather heer it b4 I assume.

@ JJ Rally itz ur plaiz, Ill comment on them tomorrow, along with @least Screl.

@every1 If U kant tell, I think 1 of them iz maf, but likly knot both, but I will rechek teh reference on diztancing, made bai Twomz, I think.

@JJ Ur post wuz badly formatted, but it wurkz, I will leave it 2 sit 4 tonight tho.

[UncertainKitten]

@JJ: So, in other words, you are indulging in laziness, a gambler's fallacy, and overall trying to push a mislynch. I think we've made the right choice in voting you dead.

@JJ: Questions that might seem pointless to you. They actually serve a distinct purpose. One is getting people to act in a pro town way since, I'll admit it, we seem to be in a somewhat inexperienced crowd that's done a few silly, but not necessarily scummy things. And two is discerning how someone plays and how it makes sense as town or scum.

@JJ: Why is post 80 "overly paranoid". Is it because I'm correctly calling you out on something? I find it quite interesting how you seek to discredit the tell rather than counter it.

Post 76, while a little hostile, is still my opinion of everyone who jumped on my wagon. Wagon analysis is the most concrete info you get in this game. Your vote was scummy. DEAL WITH IT. You do realize that a cop coming out with a guilty on a townie is effectively a FREE MISLYNCH for scum, right? And that scum would VERY eagerly push that mislynch, and then hide in the crowd when the flip happens. What ELSE am I supposed to assume from the most suspicious vote on the wagon.

So, anyway, why do you take issue with me asking people to think about what scum would do, as opposed to derping up a vote for someone for terrible reasons? Are you saying people shouldn't question reasoning? Are you saying that we shouldn't vote based on how an action helps scum? Are you saying we should just vote based on...what? What are we supposed to vote on? Your reasoning all game has been weak, and in fact the kind of reasoning I expect from mafia, since it has that feel of looking good on paper,

until it is questioned

.

JJ's trying to save himself. He has nothing.

[PieMan]

@ FG PLOX link kontent U hav posted.

@ Screl Y did U ask 4 moar info about vezo for liek 2 pagez? abut hiz exe filez
I think I saw taht question 2 or 3 tiems.

p160 Ur vote change iz still confusing, we both had teh basic sa3m ideas.

and U s33m 2 b lacking in kontent. knot as bad as FG tho.

@UK p44 U jumped a little hrd agaunst a FOS on U
In a tiem wen we needed sum subjekt

P52 Y R U tring 2 ghet other peepz 2 tlk abut Vezo's powr
Last line

p92-93 I think thiz mai b an attempt 2 diztance frum FG, teh timing s33mz a littlte 2 fast.

p94 @ thiz tiem it reedz taht U voted 4 Gandalf becuz he wuz MIA, knot a skum tell, taht iz how it reeds 2 me @ least

p381 wat changed on ur reed of JJ

[UncertainKitten]

OK, you know what? Could you like, link all of those posts? It's hard enough figuring out what your saying WITHOUT having to go hunting. So, please, use that cute little number at the top of each post, click it, and directly link me.

[jelly jiggler]

@JJ: So, in other words, you are indulging in laziness, a gambler's fallacy, and overall trying to push a mislynch. I think we've made the right choice in voting you dead.

I already admitted to being lazy. In a way this situation is pretty similar to a gambler's fallacy except in this case there are people trying to get you to pick the wrong choice which makes it more likely that we pick the wrong choice. It's not quite the same thing and I wouldn't be voting the way I am if it was. The last part is pure bull crap assumption on your part. Do you really think I am scum or are you just voting me because you think I am anti-town?

@JJ: Questions that might seem pointless to you. They actually serve a distinct purpose. One is getting people to act in a pro town way since, I'll admit it, we seem to be in a somewhat inexperienced crowd that's done a few silly, but not necessarily scummy things. And two is discerning how someone plays and how it makes sense as town or scum.

The question you ask seem all like rhetorical questions that don't really provide anything useful. Any idiot can just come up content. I see you asking a lot of questions but I don't see much analyzing. Also pretty much anything can be rationalized as being town or scum.

@JJ: Why is post 80 "overly paranoid". Is it because I'm correctly calling you out on something? I find it quite interesting how you seek to discredit the tell rather than counter it.

No, it's because your first assumption is that I am trying to defend whoever that person was. Thats not something something I would consider to be a first response in a regular conversation which is how I intended it to be.

Post 76, while a little hostile, is still my opinion of everyone who jumped on my wagon. Wagon analysis is the most concrete info you get in this game. Your vote was scummy. DEAL WITH IT. You do realize that a cop coming out with a guilty on a townie is effectively a FREE MISLYNCH for scum, right? And that scum would VERY eagerly push that mislynch, and then hide in the crowd when the flip happens. What ELSE am I supposed to assume from the most suspicious vote on the wagon.

Are you saying I made a vote that I could easily get away with? I think a vote somewhere in the middle would have been a much better choice if I wanted to avoid attention besides I am always the center of attention in every game. I guess you are just assuming I'm a total newb.

So, anyway, why do you take issue with me asking people to think about what scum would do, as opposed to derping up a vote for someone for terrible reasons? Are you saying people shouldn't question reasoning? Are you saying that we shouldn't vote based on how an action helps scum? Are you saying we should just vote based on...what? What are we supposed to vote on? Your reasoning all game has been weak, and in fact the kind of reasoning I expect from mafia, since it has that feel of looking good on paper,

until it is questioned

.

I don't like answering these pointless questions because none of them have any real answers and do you think I actually know? I don't think you could find a good objective answer.

JJ's trying to save himself. He has nothing.

This is so lol worthy. Sorry but your reasoning is nothing special. I've been in almost the exact same situation in my first few game where people were just assuming I am newb scum however none of them were scum if I remember correctly. I actually kind of want to unvote you now because of that but that has been poorly received by people who thought I was a newb. Aw what the hell I'm not particularly against being lynched anyway .

unvote: UK

[UncertainKitten]

@JJ: I've explained I think you are scum for your opportunism.

Analysis is generally done behind the scenes. I've been getting reads all game, floating people towards town and scum and such. I've been fairly open about who I think is what. I don't see your arguments at all.

No, actually, an early vote with a cop claim is the "safest" bet because it's assumed everyone will follow, and later voters are waiting to see if their scumbuddy gets out of it. Nice try though, I'll give you a green star for effort.

This of course would be assuming I flip scum, of course. But it's a perfectly valid way of reasoning in a normal game when you get called out on your early vote later.

I don't want objective answers. I want YOUR answers. They determine your intent. Why do you want to hide your intent?

You cease to make sense at the end of your post.

Am I scum or am I not? If I am scum, you should be voting me. If I am not, who is?