Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

Jack · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:20 am

Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Jack wrote:ok, I can buy that.
unvote

Who's your partner?
Don't answer that, DH.

However, is your partner guaranteed to be town?

THIS CAME AFTER DH REFUSED, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT ON PREVIEW

DemonHybrid · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:21 am

Jack wrote:
Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Jack wrote:ok, I can buy that.
unvote

Who's your partner?
Don't answer that, DH.

However, is your partner guaranteed to be town?
NEVERMIND, HE OUTED HIMSELF

I want town to remember this exchange. Jack's attitude is completely anti-town.

I still think you're a stubborn VT.

ISO · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:30 am

I did no such thing. I am not DH's parter, Neighborly, Mafialy, or otherwise.

Now, DH's claim yields some interesting scenarios. I'm thinking out loud here, so forgive me if I forget anything.

Possibility One: DH is lying and is therefore scum. I don't see this scenario being very likely, because sooner or later his scumbuddies would have to pretend to be his neighbors, and that's uneccessary risk this early in the game. Therefore, we go to...

Possibility Two: DH is indeed a Neighbor. Neighbors aren't guaranteed alignment, so now we have three subscenarios:
2a) All of the neighbors are town.
2b) DH is town, and at least one of his neighbors is scum.
2c) DH is a scum neighbor.

If scenario 2a is correct, then I think that makes TheLonging's claim less likely; that would give four townspeople powerroles while leaving nobody but the Mafia for TL to track.

If scenario 2b is correct, then DH can narrow down at least one scum to a small group of people.

Scenario 2c is possible, but I still see Kov and Twomz as better lynches today.

What did I miss here?

ISO · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:32 am

Jack wrote:
Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Jack wrote:ok, I can buy that.
unvote

Who's your partner?
Don't answer that, DH.

However, is your partner guaranteed to be town?
THIS CAME AFTER DH REFUSED, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT ON PREVIEW

Then if I was scumbuddies with DH, wouldn't I have not posted anything after I saw he had already refused and not gotten involved?

DemonHybrid · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:33 am

U so smrt hashul

What do you think? I'm kinda liking your 2b theory and can out them right now, but at the risk of town PRs being pretty much nearly identified.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:34 am

And I can vouch for HC not being my Neighbor.

ISO · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:37 am

I'm partial to 2a myself, but that's partially because I don't believe his claim and 2a lets me keep TL as a major suspect. I think I need to mull it over for a little bit and reread some people in isolation.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:40 am

Quickly. Today almost ends.

ortiz1193 · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:40 am

If there are more than 2, you shouldn't out them now. Let one of the others out them if they're close to lynch because if they're all town, then it majorly narrows down PR hunting.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:41 am

There are 2 other neighbors.

esuriospiritus · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:10 pm

Scenario 2a sounds most likely given everything we know. I'm definitely with Haschel on still not

really

trusting TL.

Meh. I am going to change my vote to

unvote; Vote: Twomz

because I still don't think DH is scum, whereas I'm not so sure about Twomz.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:21 pm

I believe I can out a neighbor scum at this point.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:22 pm

EBWOP: I'm going to wait until it gets critical and people are jumping up and down for the info, because I really want to make sure that we make the right decision between HC's 2a and 2b theories.

ortiz1193 · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:22 pm

Interesting that people think DH is town more than they think kov is scum.

Jack · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:24 pm

jesus guys, dh is obvscum.

Jack · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:25 pm

esuriospiritus wrote:Scenario 2a sounds most likely given everything we know.

Given what? What is "everything we know"?

DemonHybrid · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:27 pm

Jack wrote:jesus guys, dh is obvscum.

Frustrated VT, wants to be the center of attention.

There is potential information to be had. I don't understand why you're so ravenous for my lynch. It will come, don't worry. Before then, we have to make a good decision that will positively affect the rest of the game for town.

It's irking how you want to take that away from us.

Jack · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:35 pm

DemonHybrid wrote:Frustrated VT,

I'm not a vt, I can't talk about my role TRUST ME it would be BAD for the town if I said ANYTHING about it. Huh? Huh? Oh wait, after checking the WIKI because I don't actually HAVE A ROLE PM THAT I CAN CHECK TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY ROLE, in a min-NORMAL where the standard is to explain the role fully in the pm. Actually no I'm a MASON, gosh!

My partners? NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WITH A MASON CLAIM, JUST UNVOTE WITH NO PARTNER CONFIRMATION

OH WAIT i HAVE MORE THAN ONE PARTNER

OH WAIT I'M ACTUALLY A NEIGHBOR AFTER ALL THEREFORE MY CLAIM IS MEANINGLESS BECAUSE N EIGHBORS CAN BE SCUM, LET ME CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE I JUST GOT CONFIRMED AS TOWN THOUGH

esuriospiritus · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:37 pm

He's telling the truth about the neighbour thing.

I'm one of them.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:39 pm

And ortiz is the other.

Ortiz is scum.

ortiz1193 · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:40 pm

Great logic.

Jack · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:40 pm

esuriospiritus wrote:He's telling the truth about the neighbour thing.

I'm one of them.

I admit I'm slightly surprised at that. Any pre game chat from you guys? Aren't you at all suspicious of his ridiculous manner of claiming it? He was trying to make it sound like something super. Neighbor claim is not a towntell.

What's "everything we know" again?

ortiz1193 · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:43 pm

DH has a tendency to make his role seem more important than it really is. I tried to let him know he could claim without outing me/esurio here:

We'll see from the flip I guess. DH, can't you atleast be vague about it? I don't see how a role name would tell us anymore than your flip.

Btw if all 3 of us are town then the doctor just went from possible ~9 people to ~4 >_>

DemonHybrid · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:44 pm

Because I firmly believe that esurio is the one who actually cares about the fate of town here judging by your actions towards me all game. I am way more likely to believe HC's 2b plan since I'm having trouble believing that there'd be neighbors without a twist thrown into it.

Look into this more after I'm lynched. TL, in my eyes, is what he says he is. It'd be fruitless to focus on him at the moment.

New scumlist: Kov, Twomz, Ortiz. IP is frustrated, but okay IMHO. He's been pulling a Friend lately.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:44 pm

ortiz1193 wrote:DH has a tendency to make his role seem more important than it really is. I tried to let him know he could claim without outing me/esurio here:

We'll see from the flip I guess. DH, can't you atleast be vague about it? I don't see how a role name would tell us anymore than your flip.
Btw if all 3 of us are town then the doctor just went from possible ~9 people to ~4 >_>

But we aren't. So, that's good.