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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:57 am

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BM, explain.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:58 am

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Goddess Haylen: Votecount, please? And a prod check?
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:58 am

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@Hay
you didn't. But BM implies that you did.

@Ghost

:lol: No you don't. You jumped on my wagon(WHich by the way came out of the blue...like WHOA) without much hesitancy and with as much evidence as you keep spouting that the DGB case doesn't have. You haven't really stated why I'm scum, you just given aesthetic reason why I should be lynched. Why make the case you have sound more inteligent then it actually is?

Have you forgotten that theres been a DGB wagon since the beggining?
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:59 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote: BM brings up meta stating that DGB is her TOWN account :roll: I call bullshit to this.
Haha, grow up :D

Will look at you in a sec. In the meantime, a bit of psych-analysis for ya:
MS wrote: @Haylen: I
actually a bit peeved
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don't really find it all that fair, you being the mod aside.
1. Why the "/ooc" stuff? If you are town, why are you adopting a different persona to play the game?

2. Honestly? I can smell a scumbag's mindset at 50 paces mon ami.

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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:01 am

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Haylen wrote:when did i say that? :/
*shakes head* lol

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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:01 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Midnight's Sorrow wrote: BM brings up meta stating that DGB is her TOWN account :roll: I call bullshit to this.
Haha, grow up :D
Already have son. Already have ;)


Battle Mage wrote:
MS wrote: @Haylen: I
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honestly
don't really find it all that fair, you being the mod aside.
1. Why the "/ooc" stuff? If you are town, why are you adopting a different persona to play the game?

2. Honestly? I can smell a scumbag's mindset at 50 paces mon ami.

BM
1. I honestly have no clue what you mean here.

2. Then you need to get your nose checked. :roll:
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:02 am

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GhostWriter wrote:BM, explain.
Explain what? haha

There's more than one way to get things done. ;)

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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:03 am

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Certainly.

So why arn't we?
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:05 am

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Calm down people. Im trying to think here... >_>.

Btw, calling for an extension based on the last say 50ish posts starting with midnight's sorrows rage for a hammer.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:05 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Midnight's Sorrow wrote: BM brings up meta stating that DGB is her TOWN account :roll: I call bullshit to this.
Haha, grow up :D
Already have son. Already have ;)
In my country, grooming is illegal. lol
MS wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
MS wrote: @Haylen: I
actually a bit peeved
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honestly
don't really find it all that fair, you being the mod aside.
1. Why the "/ooc" stuff? If you are town, why are you adopting a different persona to play the game?

2. Honestly? I can smell a scumbag's mindset at 50 paces mon ami.

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1. I honestly have no clue what you mean here.
It's clear that you arent playing this game as yourself. You've adopted a different mindset, hence the difference between your game-related posting and your unrelated posting/posts to Haylen. That's a scumtell.

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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:06 am

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Too much juicyness is happenin here. See above
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:06 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:Certainly.

So why arn't we?
We are. :D

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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:09 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
It's clear that you arent playing this game as yourself. You've adopted a different mindset, hence the difference between your game-related posting and your unrelated posting/posts to Haylen. That's a scumtell.

BM
And you can accurately know this with utter certainty...because? Do you live inside my head? Do you know me in RL?

How the hell can you say that I'm not acting myself, and call it a scum-tell as if it makes the most sense in the world?

First you would have to know me, before you can make blatant assumptions of my personality.

Second, why is that even considered a scum tell? This is the internet. Get over it :?

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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:12 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:@Ghost

:lol: No you don't. You jumped on my wagon(WHich by the way came out of the blue...like WHOA) without much hesitancy and with as much evidence as you keep spouting that the DGB case doesn't have. You haven't really stated why I'm scum, you just given aesthetic reason why I should be lynched. Why make the case you have sound more inteligent then it actually is?

Have you forgotten that theres been a DGB wagon since the beggining?
Oh, I had a reason. I stated it. Iso it if you don't believe it. Or don't. It's the post where I voted CSL today, and then also post where I switched to you. Those were the initial reasons. The way you've been acting also pile onto that, and leave me with wanting you before CSL, due to you taking more of a leadership role and CSL, once again, taking a backseat. You might have a more important function within the mafia group.

Or maybe CSL is mafia hiding in the shadows of two town players making mistakes. First he takes a backseat role to DGB. Now he takes a backseat role while you provide the major lead on DGB. That could very well be what's going on here, but I do not like the fact that you don't present anything.

And, BM, I do not at all like the trick you played. I don't see it as helpful at all.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:13 am

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Or maybe your assumptions are, of course, WRONG. I'm town, now shut up and die.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:15 am

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SharkFinn wrote:Too much juicyness is happenin here. See above
send a PM! lol

@Ghostwriter - You dont have to like it. But i'm choosing a no-lynch over a DGB-lynch today. And as things stand, i think we can go one better, and off Midnight-Sorrow.

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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:16 am

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CSL wrote:Or maybe your assumptions are, of course, WRONG. I'm town, now shut up and die.
Nice defense.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:16 am

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GhostWriter wrote:I have now caught up.

I disagree with all the popular wagons/FoS's. NS, Tog, DGB, Ani (especially Ani), TL, all of them. Do I think the people on them are/aren't scummy? Who knows. But I think they are the wrong places to look for today's lynch. Because I, as I always do, expect there to be at least two anti-town forces in the game. It's how every large game I've been in has gone, and I do not expect that to have changed at all. And, in this game, with this mod, I'm expecting two mafia groups and probably a 3rd party killing role. And I feel that the major lynches are being either controlled or backed by these people, and most are full of bs "logic" and "scumtells" that either don't exist or aren't explained or are over-exaggerated and I don't feel like dealing with that. So I don't want to look at them for the day yet. I'd rather focus on more under-the-radar folks. Like Chronopie. Who has a lot of posts that either deal with nothing, pretend to deal with something but deal with nothing, or deal with things that are obvious and do not matter and thusly deal with nothing. On top of that, Chronopie shows up to "defend" themselves, ask what do they need to answer/explain for everyone, and then proceed to not do it. VOTE: Chronopie. You can die now.
This is from the beginning. He then changes votes to NS for her reactions (which I personally agree with the rationale). Also counters the notion that if NS=scum, DGB=town. Then useless posts in Twilight, then D2 votes Chronopie again. Expected.
GhostWriter wrote: Don't you bloody dare try pulling that one. You coax everyone's memory of how much DBG was gunning for NS yesterday, and of how much everyone pointed to how you seemed to be blindly following her, and talk about how she convinced you, but your own words damn you, as it clearly shows that you went after NS of your own accord. I suspect you as scum jumping onto the easy wagon. Then you attack her by stating that she's just attacking anyone who says anything to her, after she pointed out something Midnight was legit doing - which he tired to back out of by stating he didn't expect her to answer the question, but if that were the case, there'd be no reason to ask it in the first damned place, and it was a question that scum would love answered - and you jumped to his defense chainsaw style. Midnight is, no doubt, also scum. All of that up there, though? That was all you. All you giving evidence, since we all seem to remember so well that DGB never really gave reasons to her NS vote, just did a lot of pushing. You, however, gave reasons in between your pushing, and openly stated that it was not a case of you following DGB.
UNVOTE:
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Does provide quotes from CSL which make him pretty scummy, but for space sakes, not going to quote. Ever sense has said that both MS and CSL are scum together.

(Not an analysis, just summin up GW's position. Opinion to come)

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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:17 am

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I hate no lynch.

Fuck it. Ghost is dead tomorrow.

UNVOTE; VOTE: DGB


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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:19 am

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@Ghost:

Too bad those reasons, as I have already said before, are aesthetic reasons. They aren't scummy, they just prove that somehow, in someway, I seem to have gotten under your skin.

The same can be said of most of those who have voted me.

Again, Ive said it before ITT, but annoyance is not scummy.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:24 am

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Also, BM, there will end up being a lynch. Even if anti-DGB lynch people vote her for most protown, and the pro-DGB lynchers vote MS for town, there are, I believe, still others with votes on them. For instance, Zazier with the Shark vote.

Preview Edit: They are not aesthetic. They show a desperateness that increases as you saw me get momentum onto you for a wagon. You then proceed to not provide a case or list reasons other than information. Of course, you do understand that we also gain information from your lynch as well? Or any lynch that is argued over. So that point you try to shove down everyone's throat is moot. Furthermore, I mention repeated attempts at AtE. AtE, which you use in place of logic. This is not about getting under my skin. You haven't done that, because to do that, you'd have had to beat me in logic, which you haven't done due to being too busy using statements that attack emotional points with people. "Let's aim for DGB, she lead the assault that got a townie killed D1!" Have you said that? Nope. Not really saying you have, just saying that's what it's feeling like. I don't really know what your reasoning behind your targeting DGB is, you haven't stated it. This is not about annoyance, this is about being scummy.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:25 am

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It's clear that you arent playing this game as yourself. You've adopted a different mindset, hence the difference between your game-related posting and your unrelated posting/posts to Haylen. That's a scumtell.

BM
And you can accurately know this with utter certainty...because? Do you live inside my head? Do you know me in RL?
Both. And then some! What exactly are you disputing here? It's apparent to everyone here that you arent playing this game as yourself, and if anyone doesnt understand why, i'm more than happy to go into a more detailed explanation. Or are you disputing that it's a scumtell to play under an alias? Maybe maybe maybe valid, but i think it's reasonable to assert that townies will generally scumhunt etc and play the game honestly, and have no need to adopt a persona that is different from the guy behind the monitor.
Midnight's Sorrow wrote: First you would have to know me, before you can make blatant assumptions of my personality.
Not at all. I read your words. No scumtell is foolproof. But then, this isn't the cake is it? Merely a generous helping of icing.
Midnight's Sorrow wrote: Second, why is that even considered a scum tell? This is the internet. Get over it :?
why would you adopt an alter-ego to play a mafia game if you didnt have something to hide?

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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:28 am

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GhostWriter wrote:Also, BM, there will end up being a lynch. Even if anti-DGB lynch people vote her for most protown, and the pro-DGB lynchers vote MS for town, there are, I believe, still others with votes on them. For instance, Zazier with the Shark vote.
I know, i read your comment earlier afterwards, but I dont understand the mechanic for lynching with the "most protown" votes taken into account. Last night, i didnt even vote. :S

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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:29 am

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DGB is getting lynched anyways.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:31 am

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@Ghost

Not really. But nice try. Again, those arn't scummy. Though I do admit YOU have given reasons, albeit as unscummy as they are, but the same can not be said of the others voting me.

@BM

Your completely missing the point. You do not know how I am, or how I act. You do not know me. End of story. Your whole conjecture on this is bull shit and you know it.
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