Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

[Fugitive]

Holy hell oritz is so maffy. I cannot decide between him, Twomz, and Pie. I think I've found the scum-team anyway. I'm up for a lynch of any of the three.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm today's lynch, it's inevitable.

But at what cost, scum?

All I ask is that town does NOT disregard this day like we did Ganon's lynch in SHM3. Please take today's arguments into accord when choosing your lynches for now on.

[Friend]

I still think DH is town.

I think ortiz is scummier than esurio.

Therefore,

vote: ortiz

I'd lynch Pie too, tbh.

Sorry, been away all day and honestly I'm in too many games right now so my play is not up to its normal awesome standard. D2 will be a better day if I'm still around.

[DemonHybrid]

I still think DH is town.

I think ortiz is scummier than esurio.

Therefore,

vote: ortiz

I'd lynch Pie too, tbh.

Sorry, been away all day and honestly I'm in too many games right now so my play is not up to its normal awesome standard. D2 will be a better day if I'm still around.

Go a little indepth with your analysis. I agree with the outcome, but I want to know how you got there.

[Friend]

Indepth analysis:

95% sure one of DH/ortiz/esurio is scum.

DH is town cause of the way he's reacting to this lynchwagon on him.

Esurio is town partially cause of meta partially cause she hasn't done anything scummy.

That leaves ortiz. PoE motherfuckers.

[Jack]

I still think DH is town.

I think ortiz is scummier than esurio.

Therefore,

vote: ortiz

I'd lynch Pie too, tbh.

Sorry, been away all day and honestly I'm in too many games right now so my play is not up to its normal awesome standard. D2 will be a better day if I'm still around.

Go a little indepth with your analysis. I agree with the outcome, but I want to know how you got there.

coaching

[DemonHybrid]

I still think DH is town.

I think ortiz is scummier than esurio.

Therefore,

vote: ortiz

I'd lynch Pie too, tbh.

Sorry, been away all day and honestly I'm in too many games right now so my play is not up to its normal awesome standard. D2 will be a better day if I'm still around.

Go a little indepth with your analysis. I agree with the outcome, but I want to know how you got there.

coaching

Yeah, obviously. Ortiz and r2r must have been coaching me all game then.

[DemonHybrid]

Also, still waiting for Friend's thoughts on all of this.

AND waiting for Twornz to say exactly what have him a better read on Jack.

Jack, is this coaching?

[ready2rock]

holy overreaction.

I'm not even sure Jack meant that in a negative way.

[DemonHybrid]

holy overreaction.

I'm not even sure Jack meant that in a negative way.

No, I'm just fucking tired of people twisting everything I have to say and calling it debunking my argument.

[DemonHybrid]

In before "WOW OVERREACTION, LYNCH THIS SCUM!"

You of all people know how frustrating it is to be in this spot, r2r.

[ready2rock]

The difference is that this has lasted 2 weeks.

I'm not sure that Jack is twisting words though, and I don't think others have either.

inb4 you angrily disagrees with me.

[DemonHybrid]

We won't know until he answers me, now won't we?

[Twomz]

@ r2r: I dunno, maybe the post I quoted?

[ready2rock]

Still confused

Now that you find Jack town, you can't lurk anymore because you don't have an excuse.

[Jack]

Friend is your scumbuddy. You wanted him to make a better case for you-town ortiz-scum than he did. Your scumlist is what, twomz, kov, ortiz? That's what you were saying a few pages ago. You had pie as town.

Now, friend concludes that ortiz and pie are scum and you "agree with the outcome but want to see how he got there". Except you shouldn't agree that pie is scum should you? And you don't even care about how he got there.

[TheLonging]

if ortiz is scum I'm going to be pissed at him

[Haschel Cedricson]

Looking over ortiz, there are a few posts that caught my eye:

Great catch on the contradiction, I'd switch back to kov if I wasn't sure in my DHscum. I'll probably be up for lynching him Day 2.

even though I think it's apparent that DH is making more sense than Kov.

Honestly, before you posted kov's contradiction he was making so much more sense than DH to me.

This strikes me as a bit strange because you imply that after you saw the contradiction, then DH was making more sense than Kov. Wasn't a good deal of the case against DH based on the interchange between Kov and DH? It seems to me like this post is just saying "I acknowledge that I should vote for Kov, but I'm not going to."

HC/Esurio connection is strange. Both pushed TL until he claimed, then both switched to Kov. Both are pushing kov over Twomz for information-purposes which makes me cringe. Both have hardly posted until called out, and their posting styles are similar. Playing a pretty similar game... just something to take note of.

With this post you've now shown suspicion of both of your neighbors (admittedly not a lot of suspicion, but still some.) Ortiz: have you been assuming that one of your partners is definitely scum from the beginning of the game?

It's probably best for us to assume there's a roleblocker.

This quote isn't necessarily scummy, but I don't agree with it.

Btw if all 3 of us are town then the doctor just went from possible ~9 people to ~4 >_>

What, what doctor? I didn't mention a doctor, and neither did anybody else.

I have some more thoughts coming.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP: I'm aware that none of this proves Ortiz is scum. His response could shed some light on a few things, though.

[ortiz1193]

Don't worry, I'm not.


There is still no case on me. DH is voting me because. Friend is voting me to try and get the wagon off of DH and we know Fugi will never give a reason.

Oh hey, now we're getting somewhere. Thank you for actually trying HC! Still wrong though.

1: I originally voted DH because of that yes, but at the time of that post he had already made himself scum in my eyes. In that post I was saying Kov is scummy, because at the time of that post I believe my scumlist was Twomz/DH and kov 3rd.

2. Not definitely. I've been open to the possibility (obviously).

3. I would have this same attitude in every game I play with a claimed investigative role, no matter my alignment. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

4. This isn't a tell unless you think I'm the doc. I wouldn't know if there was a doc regardless of my alignment. I assume there's a doc, investigative role, and roleblocker in just about every game. It might be wrong to assume that, but its how I play. Every game I've played has followed that basic setup.

[DemonHybrid]

This is stupid.

I know I said I wouldn't do this, but this is getting really really really ridiculous, and I'm not creating speculation for someone else. When it gets to the point where everything I say pushes town offtrack, I can't do any more for town.

Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid

Friend is fine. HC is fine. Esurio is fine.

Ortiz needs to die.

unvote, vote: demonhybrid

If there are more than 2, you shouldn't out them now. Let one of the others out them if they're close to lynch because if they're all town, then it majorly narrows down PR hunting.

You can't worry about PR hunting and the damage outing a neighbor team will do to town while at the same time voting someone on the neighbor team for being scum. Scum would know who the neighbors are anyway, so why would you worry about outing neighbors?! Ridiculous and I can't believe this went overlooked. It's such a subtle yet strong contradiction and all of you guys need to look at this for Day 2.

Twomz is slipping away slowly and needs to die.

Kov's been slipping away this whole time and needs to die.

Pie's been recently fine, look at him later, but right now he's fine.

You all should REALLY listen to fucking Fugitive for now on. I'll jump into a shark pit if he's scum.

STOP AVOIDING QUESTIONS, JACK. You are so stubborn that it's nearly making me tear out my hair. You have a boring role, I know. But stop acting anti-town, for JUST one second. People who act like you have been have destroyed town in the past and you know it, I know it. OBVIOUSLY, I just wanted Friend to explain himself a bit more. You avoided the r2r question just to make yourself look good, and because of that, I'm through with this game. You want to steer town to create suspicion against each other? Be my guest, man. I'm not going to be the one that does it...at least I'm not the stubborn one.

And, I can hear the distant sound of TL banging his face against the wall.

Neighbors didn't say anything pre-game except that we should have an RVS wagon on Fugitive, maybe.

I needed to post this before I go to work today, so I'm not lynched without having a final word.

Good luck, town.

[DemonHybrid]

And I was a Town Neighbor. Is my self-lynch anti-town? Not as much as all of you guys are being right now. >_>

[DemonHybrid]

And if you guys avoid anything that happened on Day 1, I will dump my head in a tub of gasoline and light it on fire.

[Twomz]

And I was a Town Neighbor. Is my self-lynch anti-town? Not as much as all of you guys are being right now. >_>

If you are town neighbor, then yes, self lynching is antitown... self-lynching as town is ALWAYS antitown.

Also, when did I ever say Jack was 'town'? When have I said anyone was town? Not being able to pick out targets might be scummy, but don't start accusing me of shit I didn't do. Until the post where I voted for DH, I just thought everyone was arguing in a nonscummy way so I was focusing on Jack cause I couldn't determine who was scum by that. That doesn't mean I thought anyone was town, just that I didn't have a solid scumread (on Day 1, it tends to be difficult to do >.>).

[sorasgoof]

Day 1 Vote Totals

If there is a mistake, point it out. I think there will be, because I had to use the vote count from page 24 due to stupidity on my part. That being said, DH has definitely been lynched. >_>
Last post seen:

Twomz,

page 40.

[7] DemonHybrid:

ready2rock, InflatablePie, Jack, ortiz1193, Twomz, TheLonging, DemonHybrid [L-3]

[2] Twomz:

Fugitive, esuriospiritus [L-5]

[1] Kov:

Haschel Cedricson [L-5]

[1] Jack:

Kov [L-5]

[1] ortiz1193:

Friend [L-5]

[0/6] No Lynch:

None

[6/6] Deadline Extension:

Haschel Cedricson, Friend, DemonHybrid, InflatablePie, Jack, Fugitive

Not Voting:

Some short flavor and reveal coming soon.