Its mostly gut. Although the response of "If you think he's town and I mimicked him thus I'm town" fairly clearly illustrates the point I was making and why I've got that gut read.SpyreX, do you have more against Slicey or is it mostly a gut read plus your argument that there's scum somewhere on the Kinetic wagon?
If this is true, why did you ask the question in the first place?Vollkan wrote:2) It's pretty ridiculous that you would interpret my actions as scum-motivated cautiousness because I didn't "know what Hoopla was looking for". Every single one of his questions was clear in what it meant and my actions are entirely explicable as a genuine inquiry as to the point of Hoopla's survey. You've provided absolutely no explanation as to why it is better to interpret my actions as scum-motivated.
The point is that you were quick to pull the trigger on me without really inquiring what it was that I had on you. It's like shooting me with a pistol because you see me holding what may be another pistol or may be a squirt gun.Vollkan wrote:Ignoring for starters the fact that, if you had any decent reasons for thinking that I "may be scum" (which, objectively, applies to everybody, thus making it useless), you should have said them yourself rather than waiting for a "request", it's nothing short of ridiculous that you would now attack me because I didn't "ask" you to explain yourself with a question-mark, rather than doing as I did which was attacking a seemingly redundant statement by you.
Your paraphrasing here is pretty different from what he actually said though. I'm not speaking for Slicey here, but I'm not even entirely sure his usage of the same terminology as me was even purposely done - I can't see why you automatically assumed it was rather than just questioning him on it and asking if it was a line that came from his own mind when writing it or if he just copy-pasted what I wrote.Post 229, SpyreX wrote:Its mostly gut. Although the response of "If you think he's town and I mimicked him thus I'm town" fairly clearly illustrates the point I was making and why I've got that gut read.
I'm pretty sure my paraphrasing is what heSpyreX, you think Incog is town correct? So how is it that I posted one line that was similar to what he posted make me scummy? Your case makes no sense.
Yeah, I could initially but then I got a bad feeling about populartajo who's gone AWOL since he placed his vote on q21, and I began to second-guess whether or not this wagon was actually on scum. SpyreX is another one who gave me bad vibes. Your first paragraph basically outlines my opinion pretty strongly - I don't like the shape of the later wagon.Post 240, Ojanen wrote:Incognito said he can kinda see the merit behind the wagon when it first started, but that he was feeling lonely with his Kinetic vote. Now he said he doesn't really have a read on q21. That could be a scumbag who sees he doesn't need to tarnish himself by being on a townlynch if q21 is town after all.
This makes no sense to me; and since it is coming from you that surprises me. I don't have any evidence to back me up on this, but I would be very surprised if "I haven't liked anything X has said", and variations thereon, are not commonly said in this game. Why is what Slicey did scummy?SpyreX wrote: Using the same terminology without referencing it is sneaky and dirty pool.
Why is SpyreX thinking Incog town relevant? I agree that he has failed to make it clear why your pseudo-repetition was scummy, but I'm not sure why the fact he thinks Incog is town has any bearing on that.Slicey wrote: SpyreX, you think Incog is town correct? So how is it that I posted one line that was similar to what he posted make me scummy? Your case makes no sense.
I can't see at all why completing the survey (which I have said from the outset that I thought to be pointless) is a precondition for it being legitimate to question Hoopla's motivation.Kmd wrote: Vollkan, yes, it's legitimate to ask what the survey will accomplish IF you actually fill out the survey or IF you suspect Hoopla for posting the survey. Neither appeared to be the case.
You accused me of being cautious and questioning Hoopla to try and work out what he was looking for. I rebutted that in the quote above by pointing out that the questions were plain in meaning so there would be no need for scum-vollkan to do that. It was obvious what Hoopla was "looking for", in the sense that I could see what the 'information' (in quotation marks because I don't want to imply that any of it would be useful) that would come from the survey would be.Kmd wrote:If this is true, why did you ask the question in the first place?Vollkan wrote: 2) It's pretty ridiculous that you would interpret my actions as scum-motivated cautiousness because I didn't "know what Hoopla was looking for". Every single one of his questions was clear in what it meant and my actions are entirely explicable as a genuine inquiry as to the point of Hoopla's survey. You've provided absolutely no explanation as to why it is better to interpret my actions as scum-motivated.
As I just said, if you had any decent reasons you should have raised them yourself. It's not unreasonable that if you make an attack on me without any reasons, particularly when expressed in the meaningless form of "Vollkan might be scum", that I would dismiss you outright.Kmd wrote:The point is that you were quick to pull the trigger on me without really inquiring what it was that I had on you. It's like shooting me with a pistol because you see me holding what may be another pistol or may be a squirt gun.Vollkan wrote: Ignoring for starters the fact that, if you had any decent reasons for thinking that I "may be scum" (which, objectively, applies to everybody, thus making it useless), you should have said them yourself rather than waiting for a "request", it's nothing short of ridiculous that you would now attack me because I didn't "ask" you to explain yourself with a question-mark, rather than doing as I did which was attacking a seemingly redundant statement by you.
No, I saw what you wrote. I just think it could come from scum or town, didn't find the explanation alignment-enlightening. fits with you saying earlier you don't like 3 players on the wagon but not much more to glean from that. I disagree with your Spyrex hate btw.Incognito wrote:So... you ignore completely what I just said?