Mini 1018ÔÇôÔÇôDNA Evidence (Game Over)

[Katsuki]

Well, currently, that would be either you or prox now wouldn't it.

[Korashk]

Well, currently, that would be either you or prox now wouldn't it.

You're going to need to elaborate on this statement. It doesn't make much sense by itself.

[Hrezs]

If we were to choose someone, it would be one of you two. Not to mention depending on who you choose, the case against them will just be nonexistent, and defending yourself against a case like that is pretty hard/impossible

[Doombunny9]

Ugh, was going to post again yesterday but I forgot. Oh well.

dj seems to be up there with Prox on terms of weak voting. He's still pushing a shotty lynch even though the only reason he's provided for it was because he unvoted late.

Anyway, unless something drastic happens, either kora or prox is going to get the hammer today. That doesn't mean we should right now though. There's no deadline as of now and there's still a lot of things we could talk about.

[pacman281292]

I'm only trying to reason what we should do in this situation. If zwet announces his scan target, then at least the other guy will know the deal. That way, if zwet is killed, his scan doesn't beome worthless. If the other guy claims, we'll have 3 confirmed townies or 2 and a found scum. If we do nothing, there is little benefit unless one of the three is brought to L-1 today..

This is either VI town play or a scum slip. Having zwet's partner claim gives us absolutely no benefit, given the fact that it could simply be two scum fake claiming. The

real

cop or half-cops would be an idiot(s) to counter-claim this early. If zwet's claim is genuine, then having his partner claim would simply give the Mafia two easy targets. A doc or some other protective role would have to choose one and hope the other doesn't get NK'd. So, like I said, either VI town play or scum slip. At this point any further speculation would just be WIFOM, but I'm leaving my vote on you in the interim.

I agree with this.
I also agree with the mod; we're moving waay too slow, altough it's still early. C'mon!

[Doombunny9]

I also agree with the mod; we're moving waay too slow, altough it's still early. C'mon!

Ironic considering all you've done was barely any pregame chatter, lying about being ninja'd (which you still haven't explained. I have never heard of a 6 hour long ninjaing). And then just agreeing with and echoing other people. Way to go

[Prox]

I'm sorry. I've gotten a little bored with this.

I would defend myself, but the defense would only involve an admittance of my failure as a thinker and then stubbornness to admit it. If the gist of that isn't good enough, then obviously I need more votes.

I think I could work myself up to do a pbpa of everyone who matters within now and Sunday. I need a Desktop computer to do this, and that explains the wait.

Sorry for the inactivity. My brooding over my lynchworthy mistake and a lack of action in the thread dissasuaded me. But flaking would only annoy me forever. I'll take whatever happens.

[Prox]

Actually, now that I look at it, I haven't done anything worth getting lynched over.

All I did was

1. Ask questions.
2. Make weak votes (at the start of Day 1).
3. Act eager for progress (?)
4. Rolefish

And all accusations can be refuted and actions explained, easily enough. In due time...

[Prox]

So I messed up. There. I said it. At first I ignored the possibility of a doc, then I tried to stay consistent, and then this. Lynch me if you must, but I hope I can change your minds.

My weak votes were weak because I was in the searching phase of finding scum. I like to vote for a lot of players at the start of the game to provoke suspect responses such as wagons or fence sitting or opportunism from other players or scummy responses by the attacked themselves, like overreaction and OMGUS. From there I move forward and develop reads.

All other accusations seem stupid and WIFOMy to me and I'll need more pressure to care about them.

[zwetschenwasser]

Korashk. Are you going to say something meaningful? I find your dodging and lack of discussion about suspicions very telling.

[Prox]

I don't see the attack on Korashk.

[Prox]

Thoughts:

Shotty is most scummy. My vote for his late unvote wasn't very weak. More on that soon.

Sorry for my jerk posts; I was completely lost (I got ninja'd when the game started, then I was clueless about what was going on).
Now, back to the game:
Prox: I do think you are being waay too overeager. I'll

unvote

because RVS is over.
I'll reread, and post something more meaningful later (maybe tomorrow).

Pacman was strange here. Why didn't he vote for me?

Ah. G2g now. More on shotty later.

[Katsuki]

And now prox comes in with 3 consecutive defensive posts, with a slight AtE in how he feels bad. At least he started offering thoughts at the end.

[pacman281292]

I also agree with the mod; we're moving waay too slow, altough it's still early. C'mon!

Ironic considering all you've done was barely any pregame chatter, lying about being ninja'd (which you still haven't explained. I have never heard of a 6 hour long ninjaing). And then just agreeing with and echoing other people. Way to go

My internet wasn't working well that day, and I had my head in other game. OK?
And, I don't know what to say about everything else. Prox seems like acting overeagerly, but I don't know what to say. zwet's claim did confuse me.
@Prox: I unvoted because RVS was over, and because I didn't feel you enough scummy to hold the vote on.
I'll post something more meaningful tomorrow. Must go to the bed right now.

[Doombunny9]

Prox's defense seems VERY weak. "I screwed up don't lynch me pl0x" and "These reasons are stupid so I'ma just ignore them" is just a defense. I also disagree with the eagerness portion and the questions (how the heck are those scummy?) But I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the eagerness and the quick, weak votes are intertwined.

Also, the shotty unvoted late, LYNCH HIM argument is crap. It just seems like a error on his part. Scummy? Yes. Scummy enough to merit a lynch on it's own? Not even close. If I see more reason to vote shotty I'll look into it.

Finally @pacman- If you had internet troubles and were thinking about something else why did you feel the need to say that you got ninja'd? If prox wasn't so scummy I'd be leaning toward voting you based on LaL right now.

[Prox]

You just defended shotty before I could even attack him.

[Prox]

And duh eagerness and quick votes are entertwined. It was main reason I got called eager in a scummy way.

[LimMePls]

This game is really slow. I'm not sure really what to talk about, and our lack of an RVS is really hurting us. Did everyone answer the RQS questions?

[Katsuki]

We do however, have 2 scum suspects in prox and korashk though. Korashk dodging/fluffing, and prox withdrawing into a shell.

[Korashk]

We do however, have 2 scum suspects in prox and korashk though. Korashk dodging/fluffing, and prox withdrawing into a shell.

I'll be honest, my posts are not going to have much content-wise until DP2. I'm not a text analyzer, I'm good at analyzing interactions between players. Specifically their interactions with dead players.

Currently I don't think that Prox is mafia, and if he is then he's bad at it.

I only don't think that zwet is mafia because of his claim.

I kinda think that you're scummy, but that could be a biased reaction to your attacking me.

I'm currently neutral on Bunny and all the other players.

P.S. Happy Birthday.

[Hrezs]

I would like prox to claim

[Prox]

Oh I forgot to say this:

I do not claim at L-1 except under special conditions

I don't know what those conditions are, but they'll happen and I'll know when it does.

[Katsuki]

You just defended shotty before I could even attack him.

Ah, but you did provide reasons as to why you thought shotty was scummy so in essence, you have in a way "attacked" shotty.


@hrezs: Why do you currently think of korashk?

[Katsuki]

EBWOP: @hrezs: and why would you prefer a prox claim over koreshk.

[Doombunny9]

You just defended shotty before I could even attack him.

Missed the "More on Shotty later" part of your post XD. Still waiting on that though... So until I hear something good, I still think that the reasoning is crap.

This game is really slow. I'm not sure really what to talk about, and our lack of an RVS is really hurting us. Did everyone answer the RQS questions?

You don't know what to talk about? What is this? There's seven pages of content to post on and you say you don't know what to talk about? Add this to the fact that you're pretty much doing nothing and you're richt behind pacman in my book.

Currently I don't think that Prox is mafia, and if he is then he's bad at it.

I only don't think that zwet is mafia because of his claim.

I kinda think that you're scummy, but that could be a biased reaction to your attacking me.

I'm currently neutral on Bunny and all the other players.

So what you're saying is you don't think anyone is scummy except for kat which might just be an OMGUS? I have four people I think are scummy enough to warrant a lynch (some obviously more deserving than others). other people have two or three, and we're lucky if you have one. Anyone notice a problem here.