/in-vitational 7 - Save Cow's Mind! (after 1014)

[TheLonging]

I LOVE TO BE SO SCUMMY IT GETS ME HARD

but no seriously, my wagon has been twisting and misrepping things I've said to make me seem like I'm actually the evil scum you all fear. No. The only legitimate point that's really been against me was me thinking that a scumtell THAT 95% OF THE TIME WORKS FOR ME, is being lampooned at by Reck and discredited by Faraday, wasn't a scumtell at all.

Like I said, DRK and dramonic have high chances of being scum. Please lynch them soon. Even if not today. DRK knows I am his neighbor so when I flip town, he doesn't want to be seen on my bandwagon. It'd be bad for him nonetheless.

[UncertainKitten]

Some combination of the first two. I get in a bad mood when people who sign up to play a game don't play the game in question. I have no qualms about pointing this out to people, hostilely if necessary. The V/LA thing should have been obvious, and the attacks on me for being away were wastes of posts. I dislike being misrepresented and attacked when I'm not around to defend myself. Hence, why I was rather uncharitable to people who, apparently, can't actually fulfill their commitments to the game.

I would like it if you and everyone else proves that assessment wrong in the future.

[SFG]

Oh BTW I am, on no uncertain terms, claiming the first post of Day 2 barring the circumstance in which I die overnight. Anyone who posts before me on Day 2 if I'm still alive is scum.

[KittyMo]

...TL, why did you just self-vote?

[TheLonging]

Because according to people with tunnel-vision here, I am scum. I've refuted their petty arguments, tried to get a dramonic wagon going, and alas, no hope. Here's what CAN be gleaned from my lynch:

Most likely scum (DRK)
my scum read (dram)

So if we need to get info on that + wagon analysis (the fact that scum didn't lead this smells BS to me), I'm ok with me being lynched.

[hasdgfas]

Vote Count the Ninth:

TheLonging(5): Faraday, KittyMo, Ythill, Cuttlefish, TheLonging
Netopalis(2): xRECKONERx, UncertainKitten
dramonic(1): Netopalis
xRECKONERx(1): SFG
SFG(1): dramonic
Cuttlefish(1): Haylen

Not Voting(2): DeathRowKitty, dramonic

12 alive, 7 to lynch

prods needed: none

[Ythill]

@SFG:

There's a problem with your theory. If I live through the night I will be posting as soon as I see the thread open, unless you explain why you need the first post reserved and I agree with you. Also, I'm not scum.

@TL:

Nobody is misrepping you. You made a fluffy attack during the early game and couldn't comprehensibly answer questions about it. Since then, your two major contributions have been lurker pressure and suspicion against DRK because he has the same role you do. You voted Dram for not contributing but he has given nearly as much content in 12 posts as you have in 54. Meanwhile, you've abandonned a case for no reason other than that it was unpopular, cited a wincon and softclaimed under very little pressure, lied about being unable to NT, self-voted, and now you're acting exactly like scum who has given up and wants to die before he outs his buddies.

[xRECKONERx]

*sigh*

TheLonging's actually coming off as fairly pro-town in his recent posts. I would like to see DRK lynched instead.

Unvote; Vote: DRK

DRK lynch > Neto lynch > TL lynch

[TheLonging]

A fluffy attack? I was going by a scumtell which worked for me most of the time, how is that fluffy? I did answer those questions comprehensibly! Lurker pressure is a good thing, no? And my DRK suspicion is valid. He has not given as much content as I have, although most of my content has been defending myself against cases like this. I abandoned my case with the scumtell because no one took it seriously or you guys kept claiming it wasn't an actual scumtell. Tell me, was DRK's softclaim valid? Was mine? As far as the lying about the NT thing, I'll give you that. I'd explain why I thought that, but I'd get modkilled! I'm self-voting because if a lynch of me is necessary for my suspicions on DRK + dramonic to be HEARD, then I'll take the fall. And if you honestly think I'm scum, I'll "out" my "scumbuddies" for you.

[SFG]

@SFG:

There's a problem with your theory. If I live through the night I will be posting as soon as I see the thread open, unless you explain why you need the first post reserved and I agree with you. Also, I'm not scum.

Well then, there's a problem with YOUR theory. I can't explain why I need the first post reserved for myself without giving crucial information that I would PREFER to stick in the first post of Tomorrow after I've had a night. This will, I believe, bring the largest benefit to the town with the least risk.

TBH what could you possibly lose by waiting a time period that will not possibly be more than 24 hours to get some information from me? If I'm scum, you could use it to try and trace my partners or discount it as WIFOM or maybe even out me in the first place, and if I'm town, it gives important information that I personally think is time-critical enough to be said exactly at the beginning of Tomorrow. It's not like Days are lasting the full two weeks anyways...

[Faraday]

*sigh*

TheLonging's actually coming off as fairly pro-town in his recent posts. I would like to see DRK lynched instead.

Unvote; Vote: DRK

DRK lynch > Neto lynch > TL lynch

how in the fuck do you think he looks pro town here?

[xRECKONERx]

His posts are genuinely townie. He's not using AtE, he's simply attempting to leave information behind for once he dies. Sure, it could be a scum gambit, but I've never seen scum actually do it whereas I've seen townies do it quite often.

[UncertainKitten]

To be honest, I've been getting a kinda townie vibe from TL as well lately. I figured I was just being too soft though, and buying too much into "OBVIOUSLY scum wouldn't do that ohohohoho!" I'm curious what others thing regarding TheLonging.

[Faraday]

Short thoughts on tl:

-He votes me for buddying, but not in the post he brings it up. if he thinks it's such a good scumtell y no vote on me?
- He still seems inconsistent in the application of said tell. Ythill wasn't buddying me (I don't remember why?), Reck was doing more buddying than I was yet he wasn't scummy for it, in fact you didn't even mention his buddying to me at all. I think if you think something's a scumtell you're going to be looking out for it like a hawk, it doesn't fit with a townie looking for scum.
- I don't think he satisfactorily responded to Ythill's questions, he seemed evasive.
- Post 17 is a doozie, hops on the DRK wagon (had previously expressed some mild scum read on her?) and says he's fine with a Reck lynch. Well thanks for fucking mentioning it. Don't buy this, it looked like bussing at the time, but now it just likes a really bad wagon hop.
21- The bringing up the wincon.Nul leaning scummy on this, could be more a personality thing I guess, still no town reason to do so.
23- LOL U GUYS GOT NO CASE XD SO RANDUM. This is just a gut thing but it rubs me the wrong way.
Lied about the night talk - firstly I tend to think not utilising out of thread chat is a scumtell in the first place (I've 2 ongoing examples of this which I can't cite, and a general feel that it works)

Since then it's been nothing really scummy, self voting's null too, but it's been mostly fluffly clogging up the thread and telling us who to look at when he flips town. Woop dee doo.

Colour me convinced. Yeah sorry. It's time to die. He looks like scum who's thrown the towel in.

[KittyMo]

If he's scum giving up by self-voting, then why is he continuing to post a lot?

Can we lynch me so dramonic/

MPR

gets lynched tomorrow?

^ Towntell. Go research it yourself, for I cannot speak of it.

I'm STILL torn on this guy, and I was hoping the wagon would actually help.

[KittyMo]

The problem is that Ythill is very likely town and is a better scumhunter than me, so I feel like I should stay with TL even though I'm neutral on him.

The thing is that Netopalis is really really obvious scum.

And I only have one vote.

HMMM.

[Faraday]

He's posting nothing but fluff. He's already said who he suspects, and not a lot else. I mean there's always a chance the wagon will go away too, there's no harm trying.

[Ythill]

(got some ninjas, will submit, then read)

A fluffy attack? I was going by a scumtell which worked for me most of the time, how is that fluffy?

It was fluffy because you felt the need to add that point about the contradiction. It was fluffy because Faraday was no more buddying to me than I was to him, which was not at all. We had (and still have) similar suspicions and town reads on each other. I tried to ascertain why you'd picked his name out of a hat rather than mine, but you couldn't explain that. Instead, you gave up and moved your vote for no good reason.

Your DRK case is crap, calling it valid doesn't change that. The validity of your softclaim isn't at issue here, but the way you made it under little pressure, with nor regard for how that information helps scum is telling. And now you're trying to explain why a self-vote is good? Even if you flip town, nobody is going to care what your suspicions were.

TheLonging's actually coming off as fairly pro-town in his recent posts.

Please send me some of what you are smoking. It's D1 so of course there is the chance that TL is town, but he is

not pro-town

, not fairly, not even

barely

. I'm not usually a fan of policy lynches but this guy needs to die no matter what his alignment is. I'd be okay lynching someone else today (Neto or Hayl, preferably) but TL

needs

to be lynched or vigged before LYLO.

I can't explain why I need the first post reserved for myself without giving crucial information that I would PREFER to stick in the first post of Tomorrow after I've had a night. This will, I believe, bring the largest benefit to the town with the least risk.

My problem with this is that I've got you on my neutral-leaning-scum list. The reason you need that first post has something to do with your role, obv, but that would be true whether you're town or scum and I do not want to allow a potential scum-SFG to get whatever it is you get for making the first post. The fact that you're playing open-handed on this doesn't say anything good about your alignment.

[Ythill]

The problem is that Ythill is very likely town and is a better scumhunter than me, so I feel like I should stay with TL even though I'm neutral on him.

FFS, add KM to my preferred lynches list.

[Faraday]

Yeah V/la untill Sunday evening. I'm heading out tonight, so yeah.

[KittyMo]

The problem is that Ythill is very likely town and is a better scumhunter than me, so I feel like I should stay with TL even though I'm neutral on him.

FFS, add KM to my preferred lynches list.

v0v in my last completed game it worked out for me

I do things that work ^_^

[dramonic]

I've reread again.

In the context of a TL vs DRK lynch, I really think it'd be a much better idea to lynch DRK.
TL's scummy, I agree, however DRK is worse.

Let me explain:

So far, DRK's post of note:

25: horribly stally/makes me grit my teeth. My gut yelled.
40: Those answers rub me quite wrong. My gut screamed.
51: Why are you saying Faraday is scummier, voting kittymo and STILL spouting random crap about BFF. "I was joking" is the equivalent of saying "fluff", so get a better answer.
144: Still going on with the crap-fluff BFF stuff. Also, since RQ's deserve your vote, why didn't SFG get it exactly? Oh right, BFF <_<
157: It's a bit late for random-votes. Especially when you've ALREADY laid serious votes.
167: Both comments being quite useless, especially now that we can suppose your "reason" is being in a neighbourhood with TL without a name that yells scum. Also, Kitty is not prob-town, just saying.
245: Had I had a daykill, I'd have used it by this post.
303: You've provided no reason for me to believe Kitty and SFG are town, so your first line is complete fluff, again. Your answers to Reck's questions are also pretty scummy, especially 1 and 2
306: 1) misreeeep. Also, passive-agressive reply much?
364: All in all, non-commital
370: Ythill summed it up in 372

total: 24 posts composed of 4 pre-game stuff, 11 scummy posts, 5 pure-fluff, 1 claim, 1 VLA notice and 2 decent posts.

In my eyes SFG and Kitty are also pretty scummy (Even though most people seem to disagree here), along with a possible Neto. Cuttle has dropped off after my more recent read, Haylen needs to post more, Ythill and Faraday are cool
Reck is fairly null, but I don't actually care because I don't want him lynched without incriminating evidence or a "he's the last scum"
TL is the town neighbour and I'm going to need a case that shows he's scummier than DRK to change my vote.

@Ythill & Faraday: You stated earlier in the game that DRK was scummy, has your opinion changed or has TL beaten her in terms of scumminess IYO? Or would you be willing to change wagon?

Unvote
Vote: DRK

@ninja: And thus my suspicion of Kitty is increased. Why the hell are people still saying she's obvtown?

[KittyMo]

SFG is obvtown because she's being honest even when it'd suit her as scum to not be.

Don't really get those of you that aren't seeing that.

Same with Reck.

[Ythill]

Ohai Dram. It's mainly that TL is the scummier of the two, but DRK got a few townie-brownies here and there. I don't see why people are treating this as a dilemma. It's possible they're both town. I'd switch from TL to another lynch, but not to DRK at this point.

We need to start working on consensus. Everyone please clearly list your top 3-4 lynch choices if you have not. Mine are

TL, Neto, Haylen, and KM.

If I have time tonight, I'll start making a compromise list based on everyone's suspects.

[KittyMo]

Neto, TL, and...Cuttle or dram, I think.

Pretty sure not all of them are scum; pretty sure it's Neto.

I find it not at all surprising that people that have expressed suspicion of that sentence are people that have played with me very little or not at all. Sorry if you don't agree with my town playstyle or scumhunting methods, but it doesn't make me scum.