FakeGod wrote:Of couse scum would. But there's an off chance that bv's actually some sort of a cop.
charter, if you had to lynch between the VTs, who would it be?
That's either Maxmouse or Fishy. To be honest, it's a tough call. Without having reread to see what the dead scum said about them, I'd say Fishy right now, based on his fixation with MaxMouse, and if Bv is actually not scum (which I highly doubt), then he's set himself up very nicely.
I'll reread more tomorrow and give a better answer.
@MM: yes, bv's roleclaim still bothers me somewhat. But the case against him is really very damning, and that outweighs that claim for me.
@charter: how have I set myself up very nicely if bv is town? And how do I have a "fixation" with MM? I think his day 1 play was pretty scummy. What's wrong with that?
@bv: I think it's mad to say I'm "not actually committing myself". It's pretty clear that I think you are scum, based on charter's excellent case.
Sorry for triple post. One more thing. Today, I was very instrumental in making sure our claimed doc and claimed vig stayed alive (after an initial vote for Brandi). I think that is very much not the action of scum claiming VT.
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good point. If Fishy is scum, he argued pretty hard for a scenario that brings him a near zero chance of winning (assuming he isn't a roleblocker, but since Bv claimed a role day two, you'd have thought he'd been blocked night two, unless of course he is scum...)
I dunno, like I said, it's a tough call, cause I doubt either of you is scum. I'd still pick Brandi over either of you.
To answer your questions, Fishy, I hadn't remember you arguing for Brandi to stay alive, so that didn't factor in to my thinking, but I was thinking that if you're scum, then there's the easy lynch of Bv today, and there is guaranteed to be someone scummier than you alive tomorrow (or at least someone you'll have an easy time painting as scum). I say you have a fixation with MaxMouse because you keep thinking he's scum, and you talk about him and vote him way more than everyone else, and he just doesn't seem all that scummy to most of us. I suppose there's nothing wrong with it, but if Bv were to flip town, the next day you could be like 'I told you guys MaxMouse is scum'. I dunno, I get some pretty wild theories in my head.
Like I said, I'd have to reread the dead scum to see if either you or MaxMouse is a plausible partner for either, but I'm still really convinced that Bv is the way to go.
Alright, based of Pie's posts, unless he was trying to bus BOTH of his partners (which I think is unlikely), it's pretty obvious Kitoari, FakeGod (especially FakeGod), and to a lesser extent, myself aren't his scumbuddies. Pie defends Bv pretty hard around the 333,348 post range. Pie comments that he thinks Brandi is town, but it doesn't look like the 'defend my buddy' kind, as it does with Bv.
Dramonic's posts were essentially useless for analyzing.
After rereading the dead scum, BV makes a ton of sense as their buddy, and due to their complete ignoring MaxMouse, he's my second option.
Was that a hammer? If so, oh well. You caught me, I'm the Mafia Traitor. I don't know who the mafia are, nor do they know who I am. I am NOT responsible for either kill last night, and I do thoroughly believe that of the two I named, one is an SK or a vig-turned-SK.
I'll believe Bv is a traitor when I see it, though he's obviously scum. There was the evidence of Pie looking for a traitor, but Bv is so concretely connected to only the two dead scum, that I find it highly implausible that he didn't know who they were. It's completely possible that Bv knew who they were, but they didn't know who he was (or maybe even if he was out there). I was recently a mafia traitor where I knew who the two scum were, but they didn't even know I was out there. So if Bv does flip traitor, that's definitely what we're dealing with, but I don't see how that is of any consequence.
I still find it nearly impossible for us to have a SK, since 5 anti town roles makes a town win pretty much impossible. However, it looks to me like FakeGod will be our SK, which is why if you're SK, you never ever for any reason whatsoever claim to be able to kill.
Guess we'll just have to wait for the mod to get here.
And also, I think that if you're a mafia traitor, you might be able to kill if your buddies are dead. I'll have to go do some research on this, I've been a mafia traitor like four or five times, but I don't think this scenario ever came up.
No, if you're town, you should definitely shoot. If there's two kills tonight, then it's very unlikely you're the SK, with the added bonus that the SK might get shot during the night.
Then, assuming you live through the night, you pretty much decide who gets lynched tomorrow (if there's two night kills, so three people left), and if that's wrong, you shoot the other person and we pray they aren't NK immune, and the worst case is a tie (which we shouldn't be playing for...). But you have two chances to kill the SK, tonight and the lynch tomorrow, so I hope you get it right.
I still reckon Bv is full of it and this game is about to be over, but must prepare for any scenario.
Eh, I dunno, If BV is telling the truth, that would mean 2 mafia, a traitor, and an SK. I doesn't make any sense to me but I guess it's possible. BV if you are just pulling our legs then shame on you >C
But whatever happens FG, just go with what you think is best.
