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GREETZ to Andrius, Nobody Special, CSL, UncertainKitten, Super Smash Bros. Fan, and Espeonage.
Now, to start the game with a little questionnaire...
1) What side did you request?
2) Was your request granted?
3) You are walking alone down a dark alley. A man confronts you and says, "give me your wallet." Your wallet has approximately $200 in it. You have two options: give the man your wallet, OR cause the man to spontaneously combust, killing him instantly. Which do you choose?
4) If you knew you wouldn't get caught, would you cheat to win a game where there was nothing at stake but your reputation?-
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@Twomz and SSBF - Number two is not the same as number one. Please answer number two, even if you think number one is WIFOM.
Read the question again. You can't get caught. However, there also isn't anything tangible at stake (like money). All that happens is your reputation goes up if you win and down if you lose. Do you cheat?SSBF wrote:And for #4, I'm going to go with Twomz, I would not cheat as I don't want to lose my reputation.-
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Animorph day one lynch sounds like a fine idea. That is actually entirely what I was trying to get at with the questionnaire, actually - question two was supposed to determine whether you got what you wanted, and then research would reveal what you were likely to request. Magna beat me to the concluding punch, but I 100% agree with his results.
Question 1 is obviously silly, but if you didn't answer questions 3 and 4, stop pretending you are important and have a life and answer. If you were actually as busy as you are pretending to be, you wouldn't have time for forum mafia. Information can be deduced from them, you know.
To answer my own questions
1) No response.
2) Yes.
3) I would give him the $200. A life is worth more than that (even a petty theif's), and I don't think I could live with the image of him screaming as he burst into flame for the rest of my life.
4) Depends on the situation. If I were playing the game as a mental exercise and/or for fun, I wouldn't cheat as that defeats the purpose. However, if I were playing the game to prove myself as superior to the other players, then I would do whatever needed to win.
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The first question is obviously silly, but the other three are not dumb random questions like, "what's your favorite color." The second one is designed to try and find out whether everyone got the side they wanted, which is pretty relevant in a game where you supposedly CHOOSE YOUR SIDE. The third and fourth questions reveal how far you are willing to go to get ahead. which is also pretty relevant in a game where some people are TRYING TO GET AHEAD BY LYING. The answers also help gauge people's personalities in general, which is always nice information to have, even if you can't use it in game.animorph wrote:If you want me to answer the questions, then relate the questions to the game. I don't normally answer questions anyways because IMO, they do nothing for scum-hunting that the RVS doesn't do. It's just a cop-out for people who hate the RVS, IMO.
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I find the RQS to be banal and just as pointless, if not more so, than the RVS stage. I'm not saying that questioning is bad during the beginning of the game but throwing down a survey and expecting everyone to answer pointless questions is just as bad as randomly voting people for jokey reasons. I also dislike the entire idea of there being "stages" in the first place...the entire idea of "Random Question Stage" seems to imply that EVERYONE should be asking random questions which makes the "RQS" even more unfun. It has just as much potential for discussion as it does dragging down the game. So "RVS" all the way.
And even if the questions ARE useless, you are wasting more time arguing about whether you should answer them or not than it would take to just answer. What's the point of being difficult on purpose?-
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You can't choose your role, only your side and your name. Theoretically, Animorph could have TRIED to manipulate his role by submitting an extremely fitting name (e.g., Sherlock Holmes if you wanted to be a cop). However, that is completely unverifiable because, no matter how fitting the name, SaintKerrigan still needed to balance the setup and make the game fun, so he couldn't just plop down whatever fits with each character name. And what if multiple town characters tried to bid for Vig (like CSL, for example)? It's a popular role.
In any case, it's definitely NOT a Vig softclaim. Why would Ani gamble with getting Town Vig (he doesn't even like town) when he could just CHOOSE HIS SIDE as mafia or third party and be practically ensured a kill?
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NAME: HANNIBAL LECTER
ALIGNMENT: THIRD PARTY
HMM HMM HMMM I WONDER WHAT ROLE THIS WILL RESULT IN.-
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Animorphh is blatantly lying. The Vig claim is an extremely convinent cover story for the fact that he knows he can't squirm his way out of why he wouldn't have picked a killing role, so he HAS to claim one. Lover convinently (AGAIN) deters lynchage. Role name makes NOO sense as Vig.
It ALSO makes no sense because, in order for the lover shit to be true, somebody ELSE would have randomly had to have picked Winnie the Pooh. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF, OUT OF A POOL OF FIFTEEN PEOPLE SELECTING ANY TWO CHARACTER NAMES FROM ANY AND ALL CHARACTERS EVER, THAT TWO OF THEM PICK NAMES FROM A CHILDREN'S STORY BOOK?
NONE.
AND THEN HE ONLY WINS WHEN HIS WINNIE THE POO ISN'T KILLED. So he's not even ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN, because if the most protown player in the whole game was campaigning for Winnie the Pooh's lynch, then the BEST play for Ani would be to shoot that person.
Zing!
His only cover is that "he just picked Vig, not Christopher Robin."
Yeah, no. That's not how it worked for me. I sent in a name and an alignment. The name had NOTHING to do with a role. And I asekd SK if that was what he was looking for and he said YES, that it was EXACTLY what he was looking for.Animorph wrote:Your doing it wrong. Signup thread says to pick a role you wanted, as well as side.
At least, when I entered in what I did, I got SK PM'ing me that I needed to also say a role that I wnated.
Your silliness is silly. Or rather, SCUMMY.
Now, to the rest of the game.
I wasn't trying to use the question to ascertain potential idiosyncracies in the setup, I wanted to see if we could deduce who might prefer being scum/third party.Magna wrote:@AGM – Do you seriously think that anyone would not get their alignment of choice? Even if we chose 100% Town (which I doubt happened) the MODs could fashion something to make it work I'm sure.
My point was merely that, if Ani wanted a particular role, he could try and get it by being very specific with his name and alignment parameters. E.g., naming Sherlock Holmes, Town would imply Cop, naming Hannibal Lecter, 3rd Party would suggest Serial Killer.Magna wrote:@Twomz and AGM – I think in a past game SK game someone chose Hannibal Lecter as a Town role. So the focus really shouldn’t be on whatever character Ani chose. Hell, SK could make Rainbow Brite a Serial Killer if someone suggested that Role and chose Third Party.
Andrius #120/24 reads as cocky town, not scum. But still, I agree quicklynch isn't the best play.-
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So we can't lynch the lovers and they can't be nightkilled?
BULL. SHIT.
Either manho or animorpherv1 have to be able to lose SOMEHOW. These Winnie the Pooh characters must be some sort of limited immunity, or something. If this means lynching them over and over and over to break through, then so be it.
Vote: manho
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Quote me one time when you have scumhunted anyone this except for the two terrible on-liners on me.
And the "being difficult" part was in response to my RQS questions (which weren't even random since 1 related to the game and the other 2 help judge character), which you spent longer arguing as to why you shouldn't answer instead of just ANSWERING.-
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EBWOP:AlmasterGM wrote:Quote me one time when you have scumhunted anyone thisgameexcept for the two terrible on-liners on me.
And the "being difficult" part was in response to my RQS questions (which weren't even random since 1 related to the game and the other 2 help judge character), which you spent longer arguing as to why you shouldn't answer instead of just ANSWERING.-
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What happen, get rejected?Andrius wrote:And life is rough ATM, so I apologize for being pissy, but it just plain sucks at times... major let-down last night...
Animorph, nobody hates you as a person. You just happen to be scum, and we found you. A hole in the game setup was that people knew you had a preference for scum. Nothing can be done to fix that. And I certainly respect you for not being a douchebag and replacing out / self-killing. Perhaps you could try being more agreeable / trying to blend in more to appear more protown in the future? I'm not exactly sure, but you do seem to stick out a lot in general, though, and hiding in plain sight is pretty hard to pull off.
ALSO, CAN EVERYBODY STOP CAPS LAWKEING ALL THE TIME, IT IS ANNOYING EVEN WHEN FATE DOES IT, AND HE IS THE BEST AT IT. CAPS LAWKE RAGE ONLY WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING TO RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE ABOUT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WHERE CAPS LAWKE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE:
CAELUM, STOP LURKING AND GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND POST.
Here's an example of something not worth CAPS LAWKEING over:
@Everybody - Who is your top pick for scum other than the lover duo?-
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Alright.
I am God, from the Christian Bible. I am indeed 3rd Party.
When I requested by character, I gave my name and told Saint Kerrigan that God was omnipotent and operated outside the realm of the game, and as such, I had "no alignment."
He assigned me 3rd Party. This is why I asked in my RQS set if everybody got the alignment that they wanted - I didn't get exactly what I asked for. Sure, I was kinda begging for it, but still.
HERE'S THE CATCH - I cannot stay 3rd party forever. As 3rd party, I have no win condition. If anybody else achieves their win condition while I am 3rd party, I lose. Instead, I have an ability where, once per game, I can choosesalvation for allorday of reckoning.If I choose salvation, I reincarnate in human form (Jesus Christ), lose all my abilities, and become aligned the town. If I choose reckoning, I become angry at humanity and invoke Giant Flood 2.0 (Noah's Ark), lose all my abilities, and become aligned with the mafia.
SO…why not just switch right now? First of all, I'd obviously like to be on the winning team, and my ability lets me do that. More importantly, however, when I'm in God form, I have a SHIT TON of abilities, both active and passive. Like, blow-your-fucking-mind-out abilities. After all, I am God. I can claim some of them, all of them, or none of them … as you all see fit. Personally, I think keeping most of them to myself would be the best plan, as I can do some pretty sweet things if nobody sees the coming ahead of time. I'll say right now that lynching me is the worst fucking idea ever, because you will end up in a shitty situation VERRRRY similar to animorphs. However, I also know that, if animorph's ability is like mine (which I suspect it is), he CAN be killed eventually.
I've been playing pretty pro-town this game, I think, so I hope you believe me when I say my intent is to win with the town. I can also say that I am much more useful as 3rd Party than as VT.
I'll be back later to scumhunt.
Also, as noted in my other games, I am limited access from 8/18-8/25.-
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Correct.Twomz wrote:You can only choose to align with town or mafia? No other 3rd party alignments?
Not personally, as choosing a side makes me lose all my abilities. However, a cop or some other night role could always target me, or something.Can you prove that you chose town in some way if/when it happens?
How would I feel? Well, I generally don't like being threatened, you'd be shooting yourselves in the foot since I'd lose all my fancy stuffs, and a single lynch wouldn't get rid of me ... BUT if it was a go-town-or-die situation, my brain would force me to go town. I plan to go town eventually anyway, with the way this game is going.And how do you feel about 'choose town now or we lynch you'?
I can't win with 3rd Party, which leads me to believe there are quite a few 3rd Parties in this game. Moreover, I play a dangerous gamble with the side-switching; if I switch too soon, I lose all my stuff and my side could lose, but if I switch too late, then I won't make it in time.caelum wrote:Wow. That's a pretty freakin' OP role. I'm curious as to how SK balanced that w/ everyone else.
They are mostly Godly. However, I was able to try ... and fail ... to get rid of Animorph. I have some other tricks up my sleeve that I plan to test out, but I still think lynching him will be the fastest option.Andrius wrote:AGM, do you have any sort of powers that would enable us to kill Ani/manho? Also, are they like one-shot Cop, one-shot Doc type things, or are they more God-like?-
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Ummmmmmmmmmmm...how does that make him not an alt? seth joins first, maes celum alt?Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:
I don't think caelum is a seth alt, since seth joined Mafiascum before caelum.Seraphim wrote:caelum: Are you a seth alt?
Election doesn't seem pro or ani-town. I think we should elect somebody off the radar and see what happens.
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Ok.
FIRST THINGS FIRST WHAT THE FUCK ANDRIUS, I SENT YOU A REALY NICE PRESENT. PERSONALIZED NOTE, TOO. WITH A BOW ON TOP.
Fuck that. Either you are lying or somebody must have stolen it … and I don't think you're lying because the ability wasn't that good. It's ok, though. It was a one-shot ability called Tower of Babble. Gives a person a random post restriction (decided by SK) for the entirety of the next day. I sent you this because I wanted you to confirm receiving my ability instead of being like LULZ HAVE FREE COPZ VIGZ AND LIGHTNING BOLTZ BEFORE I KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION IS HURRR.
And it appears my caution was appropriate. Don't worry, though. I can prevent nonsense like this in the future. It will just take a night for me to deactivate some of my passive abilities and add some new ones.
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WUT.
CULT.
GOD.
THIS GAME.
I don't see why people aren't making a bigger deal out of this information. Namely, if Twomz is telling the truth, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED THEOTHERTWO NIGHTS? Either it's one-shot cult, which sounds absolutely idiotic, Twomz is lying, or at least two others got recruited already and are passively lying (e.g., not claiming cult because they are part of it). Hrm.
That aside, I think the best way to resolve this issue right now is dayplay. I have a sneaking feeling that there may be A LOT of third parties. Like, a LOOOTTTT. Think about it - my role is unbalanced as fuck in a normal 9:3-esk setup. I can just choose a side, pwnzors them to victory, and then drop to VT/scum at the last second. The ONLY WAY this plan doesn't work is if there are a lot of third parties running around (who I can't align with). HRMM HRMMMMM HRMMMMMMMMMMM.
At the point where that is true, I think at least one scum is likely to be hiding in the active lurkers. Toon Fighter seems like an excellent place to start. For one, WHAT THE FUCK WAS UP WITH THAT ELECTION SHIT. Second, they are not even around and are not posting at all. Also, Zazier.
UK and Seraphim are town. Andrius is probtown just cause he sucks and scum and isn't sucking this game, and honestly I also strongly believe that he wouldn't pick scum cause he does hate it that much. Twomz is up in the air with this cultist whoola. Everybody else is hard to read, especially CSL.-
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