Mini #1022- PokeUPick(Game Over)

[NicolBolas]

/confirm

[NicolBolas]

I'm kind of not sure if a nameclaim would be positive here, because it might lead to scum being able to pick off important power roles. Names may be closely connected to roles.

[NicolBolas]

All right. It seems people believe that it's better to claim our role names.

I can claim my rolename, but I refuse to claim anything more than that, though. Before I do so, I would like more people's input on things.

I kind of don't think we should "direct" the vigkill, because think about this scenario: if we direct it, scum can have a influence on things somewhat. If we let xite91 decide who he kills, the kill would be controlled by a townie without scum influence.

[NicolBolas]

Let us give you a list, but do not give the scum any idea as to which one you're probably going to kill.

This is a good idea. Let's run with that.

[NicolBolas]

Where's the other half of the town?

[NicolBolas]

I did not exactly "list bandwagon". The post by gandalf perfectly addressed my concerns, while still giving the town a way to input some opinions.

And I want to see more input from others before I claim. That's why I posted that "where is everyone else?" post. Your reasoning is bad, but I don't see any scummy things about it.

[NicolBolas]

Fine, I'll claim my name.

I'm Gengar.

It was bad reasoning becase there is no such thing as a list bandwagon.

[NicolBolas]

I waited because I felt that it was too soon to claim. Only 6 people had posted at that point, 5 of which supported and one aganist. I felt it would be better to get the others' input first on that issue, but after everyone claimed, then it was kind of too late for what I wanted, so it was pointless for me to wait any longer.

Preview edit: sneasel is from gold and silver. Pretty hard to get, but that pokemon is in that series.

[NicolBolas]

I played almost every pokemon game that came out, but didn't watch any cartoons.

This is a good question- what is everyone's pokemon knowledge?

Yeah, I kind of realize I didn't have any good reason to withold my claim. Too late to do anything about it. At least I did claim.

[NicolBolas]

My reason why I asked- I was curious. Also, I saw in other theme games I read that sometimes knowledge of flavor can help.

Why did espeonage not claim yet?

[NicolBolas]

Ebwop- I missed that. Disregard my previous question.

[NicolBolas]

Mmm...

Hello, everyone. Name claim time?

Also, I'd like to discuss the merits of immediately claiming a role that might mislead scans, instead of RVSing.

@prox- I want to know what you meant by the third part of your post?

[NicolBolas]

By not reading, you are referring to gandalf's failure of noticing what type of kill flavor you would have?

Why would it be a scum trait?

[NicolBolas]

What was your reasoning? Your vote seemed to be a random vote. Is this a effort to tack on a reason to your vote?

[NicolBolas]

You can post a small case and add to it. Right now, there's not much to go on, so any input can be helpful, no matter how small.

vote espeonage

for witholding reasoning.

Preview edit: I don't understand your last post

[NicolBolas]

Espeonage- then what is your case? Post it so the town can see your thought process

[NicolBolas]

@mbf- you cast many players, spefically gandalf in a negative light in your summary. Some things in your summary I do not think is true.

@jim- pardoned, but what's your opinion on the game so far? You are giving out information instead of analyisis. This is a common scum tell from what I know of mafia.
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I thought about it, and I wouldn't be suprised if one of the scum would be found in the first few to push for a nameclaim, seeing a how it wouldn't really hurt them. On second thought, I would prefer that nobody else claims their names until I is proven that the town will be helped by such a claim.

[NicolBolas]

And Nichol, I'm a little confused looking at your rationale for claiming across the game. You start opposed, then withhold your claim after everyone starts claiming, then claim and say there was no reason for you not to claim. Now, however, you're saying that the first people to call for a name claim are scum, and you don't want anyone else to claim. Why the sudden change of heart, and how is the remainder of us not claiming going to make a difference either way?

1) I'm Nicol, not Nichol.
2) I was opposed because of the fear that people claiming their flavor might lead scum to power roles. I claimed because my flavor has nearly nothing to do with my role, but after mbf posted a example of how flavor claim could hurt (Officer Jenny), I realized that it would probably be better to not have the rest of people claim. It is painfully obvious that nobody has the same train of thought as me.

@MBF- I think that the others feel you are misrepresenting them because your summary places several people in a negative light. I read it over again, and you are correct, factually with the posts. It is the negative language you use that has others feeling threatened.

@ Vezok

I want a chart with claims.

Some people have provided one. I find this request slightly scummy, because the game isn't that long yet. If you want one, you can make one yourself.

[NicolBolas]

@Espeonage- Why bv in particular? vezok has made only one post, Jarti and kyle99 havent made any. Is that FoS for a lurker, or do you have another reason?

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf is scummy again. I believe he is scum. DIE.
Someone claimed Officer Jenny?
Intresting.

vote gandalf

Vezok is scummy. DIE.

Why are you not reading at all?

unvote, vote Vezok

I think that vezok in his two posts is more scummy than Espeonage.

[NicolBolas]

@espeopnage- Maybe I havent, but that's not a reason for me to not demand something more of substance from Vezok. He have not proved that he actually reads, which is massively anti-town. Oh, by the way- CASE?

[NicolBolas]

@Jarti- I'm Nicol, not Nichol. I know it is not necessarily scummy to play anti-town, but still, i want to try and see if i can make him at least read the thread.

[NicolBolas]

@Espeonage- Why bv in particular? vezok has made only one post, Jarti and kyle99 havent made any. Is that FoS for a lurker, or do you have another reason?

Also- Answer this please.

[NicolBolas]

Prox- can you give a example of the above?

[NicolBolas]

Large post coming tonight, I have questions to ask everyone.

[NicolBolas]

unvote

There’s too little on vezok for me to vote him.

vezokpiraka

Do you believe Gandalf is scum because of the wagon on Espeonage?

jimfinn

You have a quite light ISO. There’s not much to read off you. What do you think of gandalf and espeonage?

Espeonage

CASES PLEASE, and why the FoS on bv?

gandalf5166

You are being quite zealous on Espeonage. Why? Also, point out the misrepresentation in MBF’s summary please.

kyle99

Where are yooou?

Prox

btw, my gut says one eevee is scum, not because of their rolenames, but the responses to the "CC"'s

explain this. Also- you said MBF was misrepping people. evidence?

bv310

You disappeared. what do you think of the game so far?

Jarti

Thats all? what abut espeonage or gandalf?

Xite91

I find you quite protown, but your claim as vig quite early is slightly disturbing. No questions for you.

Switz

I want your reasons for calling Gandalf scummy. IF espeonage shows up with the same reasons you posted, we can always call taurosshit on Espeonage. Your case will seem a lot more credible if you post it first. I dont want to give anybody a free vote at all.

mikeburnfire

No questions for you.
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My vote will fall upon the ones who make answers i deem unworthy.

[NicolBolas]

Vezok- can you give examples of why gandalf is scummy?

[NicolBolas]

vezok- can you give me concrete examples? to why gandalf is scum?

[NicolBolas]

Then how am i supposed to believe you?

[NicolBolas]

If I need that person lynched cause I am sure

I am scum

I will put more analysis stuff.

0.o

HMM?

[NicolBolas]

O Rly?



I believe ya.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf- my read on vezok is a lazy antitown player right now. Do you have any idea if his vote on you has any concrete basis?

[NicolBolas]

Hmm. I'll hold off on my opnion of Vezok until the other players start answering my questions.

[NicolBolas]

(to be specific: switz and Espeonage)

[NicolBolas]

Just like Switz and Espeonage.

[NicolBolas]

Welcome drmy... Can i call you shotty?

[NicolBolas]

I see you, bv310. C'mon, post please.

[NicolBolas]

I'm just hoping we dont have to deal with two replacements.

Why is bv still playing if he never plays, though?

[NicolBolas]

Hmm. I'll wait for Gandalf, bv310, and Espeopnage to post before i make up my mind..

[NicolBolas]

True.

I just see several people being scummy. I'm not sure which to vote, that's the problem.

I want to see what Gandalf has to say RE: switz's case.

If i had to vote right now, i probably would vote Espeonage, but I'm starting to think Espeonage may not be scum. I need them to post before i can do anything.

bv promised a post, so i'm hoping that he will post it.

[NicolBolas]

Xite- my usage of votes is on whoever i would like to see lynched at that moment i vote. I'm not sure between several people, so instead of placing a vote and changing it when a player posts, i'm choosing to wait until one of the players i mentioned posts, then i'll vote after that. It wont make much difference either way in my opinion.

[NicolBolas]

I believe that whenever i vote somebody, my vote should be on the person i would like to lynch.

As of right now, I'm not sure, between several options possible to me, so instead of placing a vote and then changing it after a player posts, i'm choosing to wait until a player that i previously mentioned posts, then i'll vote, because a post from them will be able to allow me to choose who i feel is more scummy.

I believe that my reclutance to vote is not something that would impact the game, because i will be voting quite soon.

Is that more clearer?

[NicolBolas]

Example:

bv posts something i feel is scummy- i vote bv

espeonage posts with a rock-solid case on gandalf- I vote gandalf

gandalf posts a defense of himself that points out the contradictions in switz's case, i vote switz.

That kind of thing (That's not all the actual options i have right now, i'm just saying for example)

[NicolBolas]

I guess i may look like i'm fence sitting, but i really cant decide between them. I would venture to say that i do not normally do that.

[NicolBolas]

Vezok- can you please help me here? EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK GANDALF IS SCUM?!?!?

[NicolBolas]

..... another one ......

[NicolBolas]

@bv- do you have anything else on prox?

[NicolBolas]

HMM.

I'm rereading now. content later. <XITE- WHEN I PROMISE CONTENT, I ALWAYS DELIVER>

[NicolBolas]

My content will be up later tonight before i go V/LA.

[quote="NicolBolas"]

@MOD- I go V/LA from around 10 PM tonight, to Monday.

[NicolBolas]

That quote tag aint supposed to be there.

[NicolBolas]

QUADPOST! w00t!

I found out i can get on a bit later than 10. Content tonight for sure before i go away for the weekend.

[NicolBolas]

MOD- I'm not voting anybody. I unvoted vezok a bit ago. Also i dont like your vote count. What's the purpose of showing players with 0 votes?

Post and vote soon.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf- true.

[NicolBolas]

FOS Jarti

case coming later.















Seriously though, I would like you all to take a look at Jarti's posts.

I'm Ash. (Get mad jealous plz.)

vote: switz

The way you worded 128 rubs me the wrong way.

@Nichol Anti-town play =! scum | vezok just looks lazy asking for a chart of cliams

Votes Switz just because post # 128 was worded oddly.

no guys lets kill switz

incredibly easy stance to take on the "two competing bandwagons" which pretty much is summarized as: 'i'll vote the gandolf and i won't give reasoning because esp has to. but if esp doesn't give reasoning i'll vote esp instead, but esp if you give me a case to follow i'll go gandolf'

no really guyz lets kill switz

Gives a surface case on Switz, which has been addressed.

Hi vezo, it's tomorrow.
Hi gandalf, it's past yesterday morning.
Hi everyone else, let's kill switz.

Calls out other players for not posting content. This is being a hypocrite. Jarti has only posted four times, counting his confirm. Once every two days should yield some larger posts than those.

Jarti- step up and tell us who you suspect. Top three list please.

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With the above in mind, Jarti isnt the biggest scum suspect i have.

Gandalf, you are my biggest scum suspect right now.-

vote Gandalf

Switz has posted what seemed to be a solid case on you. You was one of the major reasons the name claim started without majority consensus, you have been posting a lot of short posts to make you look like you are active. You have been targeting espeonage throughout the day, even when it looks like espeonge will never actually do anything for this game. your posting is very surface, taking no solid stances unless if it is to defend yourself.

Please do this:

That case is kind of hilarious. By taking my posts out of context, you've managed to twist them to sound scummy. I'll show you exactly why in the morning, I've got to eat and go to bed now. And by the way, I believe MBF is 100% town. I just don't like his summary.

And tell me, Who is your top three suspects and why? (ESPEONAGE CANNOT BE ON THE LIST)

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jimfinn-

Xite is a claimed vig. this means he can never live to endgame. We at least get a chance to have a protown role shoot at a scummy player. If he lies, we lynch him, simple.

Your two votes is for espeonage who doesnt post enough, and for xite, the claimed vig.

REALLY?

You dont have a scum read on anybody else? Go and seriously scumhunt.

Your posts at the start of the game is mostly information-oriented. Now, you are voting people for very weak things. I'm starting to agree with shotty here. You're my second worst suspect.

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bv310

Prox is worse though. Softclaiming a scan problem, then not elaborating is a pretty basic scum tactic of claiming Miller.

Oh, so you'd rather vaguely claim something, then OMGUS vote me. Nice to know I'm actually dead-on with my first read.

Also, nice misrep. My vote for you is based on your dangling information in front of our collective faces like a carrot, and expecting everybody to instantly trust you.

Scummy softclaim, OMGUS, misrepresentation. Is that the entirety of your case on Prox? I do not think that it is enough to merit a vote. Please improve your case or find a new target.
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To restate-

Jarti needs to post MOAR.
Gandalf needs to defend himself.
jimfinn needs stronger cases.
bv310 needs better reasons.

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Ok. I'm done for now. Any questions?

[NicolBolas]

jimfinn- your displeasure is noted. now go and start scumhunting. It does not have to be on a current wagon. Who do you think is scum?

Gandalf- hold off on your claim. I dont think it's time to claim. Instead, defend yourself, and if we dont like that, then claim. All right?

[NicolBolas]

ESPEONAGE- post your case on gandalf, NOW.

[NicolBolas]

Espeonage, I can see what you mean.

BUT what i dont see is why you would refuse to post a case earlier. please explain that.

Now... Gandalf- what do you have to say to this?

[NicolBolas]

Elaborate please. What would be a example of a perfectly applicable timing?

You seemed like you are making this case up as you go.

[NicolBolas]

Fine. Did you see any of this "slip-up" from Gandalf?

[NicolBolas]

Espeonage- you sound legit. I want you to post more on gandalf- what you saw- soon.

Now it's up to gandalf to defend himself.

Going V/LA now.

[NicolBolas]

Here. Will post later tonight.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf is still scum. Haven't proved switz's case false. More coming later

[NicolBolas]

Ok. Here I am presented with a choice. On one hand is Shotty and on the other is Gandalf.

Gandalf has promised to rebut a strong case on him, something that never materialized. I look at Gandalf's posts and it really looks to me as though he is really jumping on Shotty and ignoring everything else directed at him. I am choosing to read this as Gandalf's efforts to deflect something from him to Shotty.

Shotty has claimed a role that would be harmful to the town if Shotty was town. What I mean is that if Shotty was town and he used the action tonight, this would make everything bad for town, because the town would be incapacitated tonight. BUT, if he was scum, It could potentially help us. Think about it- a lighting rod that redirects everything to him would also make him eat the scum kill.

I'm unsure which one i want to lynch.

GANDALF- REBUT THE CASE, then i may be willing to lynch shotty before you.

vote stays.

[NicolBolas]

How many times have somebody promised something later and never actually gave it?

And- You have ignored the accusations leveled at you lately, except for mine. WHY?

[NicolBolas]

Which post?

[NicolBolas]

Elaborate. I can see them being scum together, or gandalf being scum. Shotty is less likely to be scum, IMO.


ALSO- I realized this: a roleblocker would help the scumteam a lot in this type of game. it seems like a useful scum role. hmm.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf-I dont have a problem with your family.

I'll be looking forward to your post tomorrow.

xite- a upick game, which could be a novanilla game.

Ah. I see. HMM. So you're making the argument that has to be town/town or scum/scum?

Espeonage-

WHY?

and allow gandalf to post his anticase please. I want to see it.
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[NicolBolas]

Hmm. Thinking.

What does Espeonage have to say?

I really want to hear from Gandalf, though.

[NicolBolas]

My suspicions is on Gandalf. If he manages to convince me to move away from him, I'll go after you next. Have patience.

By the way, you could try convincing people why being lighting rod isnt an antitown role.

[NicolBolas]

Then tell him to never use it. If he lies, he dies. if he doesnt, he'll live. hmm?

[NicolBolas]

*DUH*

sorry for the dumbness.

[NicolBolas]

Waffle much?

Unvote, Vote: DMSIS

I'm still very much suspicious of Prox, but DMSIS backing off instantly when Jim called him out is scummier than all hell.

What was the basis of your suspicions on Prox in the first place? I want to know.

[NicolBolas]

Mod- Gandalf is shown voting both espeonage and shotty in the VC

After considering, I still want Gandalf lynched. Jarti's post was true, really.

[NicolBolas]

I'll go on vezok's side and say that he shouldnt be killed. (if my read on him is correct).

I dont think that vezok is a surivior, actually.

[NicolBolas]

I think a mass claim on Day one is a stupid idea.

I do want a gandalf lynch.

[NicolBolas]

Hmm.

[NicolBolas]

I feel that Gandalf's anticase is weak. I still want him lynched today.

[NicolBolas]

Since nobody seems interested in this game, would anybody object to me hammering Shotty? I want gandalf lynched, but it does not look like it will happen "today"...

[NicolBolas]

Reasons for wanting to have Gandalf lynched, or my willingness for hammering Shotty?

[NicolBolas]

It would be to end the day. I do not see anything else that can happen right now.

Shotty's claim is believable, but useless to us right now, after it has been claimed.

Really, i would prefer Gandalf lynched but it seems it wont happen.

[NicolBolas]

That's true.

But, Shotty is dead weight for us right now.... Hmm.

[NicolBolas]

Xite91- explain yourself. What was your target?

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf- Who did you roleblock?
Jarti- Needs to post more. Too lurky for my liking.
Xite91- What action did you take last night?
bv310- Not enough posting. Do you still think Prox is scummy?
MBF- how do you feel after Espeonage's hammer?

[NicolBolas]

What is the result of sending a magikarp to a player?

[NicolBolas]

Honestly, I'm going to go ahead and call BULLSHIT on this.

Is there anybody with weird nonstandard roles like this? If so, say YES, that's all. Dont say what it is.

My reasoning- So far all roles revealed do normal things. Espeonage's claim doesnt. Therefore, Espeonage is lying.

vote espeonage

[NicolBolas]

Also- We need more posting from Jarti and MBF. Xite- your vig kill goes there, hmm?

[NicolBolas]

Do the giving of a magikarp explicitly tell the other person you are town? Or they just get "Espeonage gave you a magikarp"?

[NicolBolas]

Then how does that even confirm you? HMM?

Vote stands.

[NicolBolas]

My argument is that you're lying about your claim.

[NicolBolas]

Espeonage, Gandalf- Is there anybody else that you see as scum?

[NicolBolas]

With the above couple posts, i can see that my vote is useless.

I'm gonna

unvote

.

I have a large post coming up tomorrow. I've gotta go to sleep- school....

[NicolBolas]

--Xite is lying. He is scum and either he or a scumbuddy killed Vezo. Gandalf roleblocked Espeonage, and no one received a Magikarp tonight. There is no other Vigilante or SK.

--Gandalf is lying. He is scum and either he or a scumbuddy killed Vezo. Xite Vigged Espeonage, but Espeonage somehow managed to survive. This is either because Gandalf is really a scum roleblocker who blocked Xite or because a Doc (who should not claim unless absolutely necessary) saved Espeonage.

I disagree with this. There is one more option- Both Xite and Gandalf was not lying. Xite vigged espeonage, but somebody blocked Xite or docced Espeonage. Gandalf blocked Espeonage. The scum is somewhere else.
What Switz proposes here is a false dilemma.

MBF- I didnt recall you posting enough D1. I take that back now. Though, Jarti is still unacceptable.

I feel that Switz is scum. It is hard to quantify, but I'm uncomfortable with how switz has been posting.

unvote, vote switz

[NicolBolas]

I'm 100% sure that gandalf is not scum. I 100% guarantee that you all are looking at things the wrong way.

[NicolBolas]

I just can guarantee it.

MBF- are you rolefishing?

I'm not masons with Gandalf. That's for sure.

[NicolBolas]

At this point, I honestly am not sure who the scum is....

Switz's posts is not sitting right with me
MBF's rolefishing sets me on edge
Gandalf isnt scum. He was my number one scumread yesterday, but not now.

[NicolBolas]

I still say that your reasoning for voting Switz is super-weak, and your backtracking on Gandalf is evidence of scummery.

#1- I have a weak reason, true. That's because I have no scumreads now.
#2- IS IT? Why would i be that blatant?

[NicolBolas]

Yes.

[NicolBolas]

Right now, I think it would be good if prox could fullclaim.

Prox- would it be a major loss to us if you fullclaimed?

[NicolBolas]

Switz- I have role-based information that 100% confirms that gandalf is town. I don't see what there is to disagree with that.

[NicolBolas]

All right.

Fullclaim:

I'm Gengar, with four moves. I dont know what each move does, so I'm like a JOAT/Inventor hybrid.

They are:

Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

I used Focus Blast on Gandalf N1, hoping it was a vigkill because I was so sure Gandalf was scum. It turned out to be a cop inv. Gandalf was innocent.

Sorry, town, for outing my role. I suck as a power role, it seems.

Now, could you all take guesses at what the rest of my actions do? I suspect Hypnosis could be a roleblock or something similar.

[NicolBolas]

I did not mean solely do that. I'm trying to figure out the possibilities of all my actions, that's all.

I'm trying to reread this game to see who i find scummy. hopefully i can have a post on that later tonight.

[NicolBolas]

I sent in this as my role:

Gengar

his moveset is: the above.

and i got this.

[NicolBolas]

To make it clear- I told the mod i picked gengar with the mentioned moves.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf- My gut tells me MBF is scum.

Whose' gut is correct? hmm? I will elaborate on why i find MBF scummy later tonight, but please do tell me why you think MBF is town.

[NicolBolas]

Xite- what distancing? Gandalf is 100% town.

[NicolBolas]

MBF- with these modifiers- I'm 95% sure.

Think about it- A godfather roleblocker is hard to believe for scum. I'm a inventor with basically a 25% chance of getting lucky and getting a cop inv. Why would it be possibly not sane? BUT- My result could have been somehow tampered with, true.

For now, I'm willing to take my own investigation at face value. In later days, we could reexamine that result, but right now, I'm just gonna take it.

Jarti- jimfinn is indeed acting scummy. I really need to reread and reevaluate my opinions with what i know right now. I know i promised a serious post yesterday, but i was busy. One should come up tonight. Things I'll be looking at: Who pushed the shotty lynch the hardest, who defended it, interactions between players, that kind of thing. If there's anything else you really think i should take a look at, please ask.

[NicolBolas]

Xite- I know. That's why i'm just choosing to trust it for now, but LAter if any doubts arise...

jim- why dont you choose from amongst 7 of the other players. Why does it have to be xite's list?

Xite- also- I think you should not post a list like that again. If you do, make sure more than 5 people are on it.

Espeonage- yes, Gandalf was declared town recently, but you gave him a magikarp before that. why him? It seemed like he would be the lynch for today yesterday, hmm?

[NicolBolas]

Nicol, are you sure that Gandalf is 100% town? As in, there's NO possible way for him to be scum in your eyes? Your investigation is guaranteed normal sanity, and there's no way your result could have been tampered with?

What's the point of insanity on a one-shot investigate? That's just bastard.

I dont think it's one shot. I'll check to make sure.

Prox- A nexus? What does the role do?

[NicolBolas]

You're right. Everything's oneshot.. Hm.

[NicolBolas]

Thanks. That's an interesting role. Hmm. Thinking

[NicolBolas]

Xite- you have to admit, he is more confirmed than most people here.

[NicolBolas]

I'm back. Catching up. I will post tomorrow.

[NicolBolas]

Jim- quick note here- If scum can ensure that Xite doesnt plan to kill a scum (if xite has three people on the list, and all is town) then scum doesnt have to worry about rolelocking xite. Right now, your suggestion makes it sound like there's one scum on the list, and you're hoping to eliminate that scum from the list so you dont have to worry about rb-ing xite.

[NicolBolas]

The recent post by jimfinn strikes me wrongly. It feels false. More thoughts coming up.

[NicolBolas]

Jarti- what protown reason do you have for telling Xite to not condiser you?

[NicolBolas]

Jarti- what protown reason do you have for telling Xite to not condiser you?

Wow... this post is actually pretty scummy to me.
Okay, lets think this through.
No matter what she is, she needs to pretend she's town, right?
So, lets go basing off her being town.
Remember why self-voting is scummy? Same thing, really.
You are the only player who's alignment you know (unless you're scum of course, but basing with town)
Therefore, voting yourself (or making yourself a target for a vigkill) is attacking the only person you know to be town
Therefore, taking yourself of such a list is the most pro-town thing you can do.
Considering you're town, that is.

Ah, i see. I understand now. I just was looking at the fact that Jarti made an effort to explictly mention it.

[NicolBolas]

I disagree with what espeonage said about me being a good lynch for today, but i kind of agree with a jimfinn lynch. Why i disagree with Espeonage about me being a good lynch is because I think that it would only make it easier for scum to pick off players. Example: I get lynched- I'm town- so Gandalf is confirmed town- then scum kills him- we are down two nearconfirmed town. If i'm not lynched, that attrition rate would probably go down. You know that I and Gandalf are very linked, so you can apply that information to later days. I'm probably just rambling right now, though...

I'm sorry for not taking this game seriously. I'll shape up my act soon...

[NicolBolas]

EBWOP- NINJAPOST!

[NicolBolas]

I'm just hoping that i get lucky and get a vig action tonight. hmm.

[NicolBolas]

Prox- that only encourages a massclaim, which is not a good thing for the town. too many PRs has been outed, already.