Open 233: Ninja Mafia Boogaloo - Over!

[Beefster]

^ Newb =/= Scum

@gamma: Come to think of it, the kill was actually quite pro-town. It sucks more because it really threw me off.
Agar's probably more in the Top 5. drmy and Chronopie are my biggest suspects. Problem is, they seem more like policy lynches than anything else atm. AGar reeks more of scum, but I don't feel there is much evidence against him. Does that make sense?
VOTE: drmy
POST SOMETHING USEFUL!!!

I can also see PaltryExcuse as scum, but there's no concrete evidence on him. He's always seemed fishy to me, though.

[AGar]

^ Newb =/= Scum

You're proving to be an idiot.

Newb != Scum

Newb + Newb Scumtell = Potential Scum

Read the thread before you make asinine posts. FFS, I said that it is a tell

likely to be used by new players

. -_-

[ConfidAnon]

I don't like this defense one bit, as it reeks of AoE and a pinch of WIFOM.

Of course it reeks like wifom. I'm asked to defend why I'm not scum. That in and of itself IS wifom.

So.. have you read the thread? The part where he asks what to do to not look scummy and the frustration? THE THINGS THAT NEWBS DO?

I notice that you didn't say the things that scum do, you said the things that newbs do.

Read the thread before you make asinine posts. FFS, I said that it is a tell likely to be used by new players. -_-

He was commenting on the post immediately previous to his . . . the one I quoted above. Pretty easy to tell based on the carat.

Also, AGar, why have you ignored things like my defense and my reasoning for voting KageLord?

[curiouskarmadog]

more chrono votes please.

[curiouskarmadog]

anyone what to put a side bet that when chrono gets back...his vote will end up on me?

[AGar]

@CA: You're failing at following a conversation, so don't tell me how to follow one. I'll outline it for you.

I said "This scumtell is only conditional to players who are newbs"
He said "People with 09 joindates aren't newbs."
I said "He is behaving similar to a newb - asking how to appear townie, asking what to do"
He said "Newb != scum"
I said "I know. I never said Newb = scum. I said Newb + Newb scumtell = potential scum"

So there you have the ENTIRE line of thought. Read it and quit trying to misrep my statements, both of you.

I've not ignored your defense, I'm simply not going to reply to it because your defense is an OMGUS driven counter-argument. No sense in trying to debunk it.

I've not ignored your vote on KageLord, I gave my response it's own post.

[ConfidAnon]

I've not ignored your defense, I'm simply not going to reply to it because your defense is an OMGUS driven counter-argument. No sense in trying to debunk it.

And I'm misrepresenting you? I never said I suspected you . . . so how can it be OMGUS? However, attacking someone and not giving their defense the time of day is kinda suspicious.

FoS: AGar

You have no comment about the reasoning behind the KageLord vote. You immediately wrote it off as scummy. What is your thoughts on the reasoning behind it?

[AGar]

369 is your defense, I presume. In which you accuse me of tunneling, molding a tell and argument to fit my needs, ignoring things and try and call me out on having no other suspicions. Sure, you don't say "I'm suspicious of you!" or "Vote: AGar" but you imply it with every word.

And I have commented about the reasoning - it's shitty, laughable and scummy. Read 361. And then read it again. And again and again until you get it through your thick skull that I was addressing your vote you dolt.

FoS is just another way of saying "Wah, I want to bandwagon him but don't want to take a stand and make the first vote."

Die scum, die.

[StrangerCoug]

His most recent post (the one with the dumb attention grabbing letters that serve no purpose other than him hearing his own voice) starts out by calling my post commenting on the Enigma kill scummy. Commenting on a night kill is, in my opinion, a null tell. I would be suspicious of someone for prolonged discussion of the night kill rather than scumhunting, but I don't see why it's scummy. He's going to pull out a "yada yada yada new players are more likely to comment on their handiwork as scum" in response to this. Yea right, it's just an argument he's using to make me fit into his scum view of me and get you folks to vote me. There is nothing about a simple post at the beginning of the day commenting on the night kill which would be scummy.

Sure, I hopped on the Chronopie wagon. It's not like there was a convincing case posted by someone or anything. I agreed with the case on Chronopie posted by curiouskarmadog. Sue me. Although it is quite humorous that in order to continue tunnelling on me, AGar ignores my resoning for voting KageLord. Instead he says I'm attacking him because he attacked the Chronopie wagon. Not true at all. Someone didn't read my post.

Earlier, Day 1, he suspected me for bandwagoning and AtE. Sure, I bandwagoned. AtE? Wasn't intending on using it, but I did, looking back. There's not really a defense that can be given for those.

OK, you're spared from my wrath. I was hoping for better, but I can live.

I'm going to let ConfidAnon vs. AGar play out a bit longer. The only problem I have with the latter right now is his stance on FoS'ing. I

MIGHT

agree if ConfidAnon's not voting

[drmyshottyizsik]

more chrono votes please.

Any one want to side bet that when crono gets back his vote will be on me?

Calling for others to vote is scummy and pushing way to hard, please refrain

[curiouskarmadog]

more chrono votes please.

Any one want to side bet that when crono gets back his vote will be on me?

Calling for others to vote is scummy and pushing way to hard, please refrain

why is it scummy? I think he is scum, I want to lynch him. So dont tell me how to fucking play. if you think i am scummy, vote my ass.

[StrangerCoug]

more chrono votes please.

Any one want to side bet that when crono gets back his vote will be on me?

Calling for others to vote is scummy and pushing way to hard, please refrain

curiouskarmadog is using a legitimate town tactic. Sorry.

[Beefster]

Newb + Newb Scumtell = Potential Scum

Confid isn't a newb! I'm failing to see your logic.
My case on tume points out something that I'd EXPECT a newb to do, but is scummy for anyone.

[Beefster]

I feel

FoS: AGar

is in order.

[KageLord]

I feel

FoS: AGar

is in order.

Two fingers now? You already FoSed him like 3 posts ago (a.k.a. near end of last page).

[ConfidAnon]

Newb + Newb Scumtell = Potential Scum

Confid isn't a newb! I'm failing to see your logic.
My case on tume points out something that I'd EXPECT a newb to do, but is scummy for anyone.

Time wise, not a noob. Experience wise for play on this particular site, probably a newb.

[silverbullet999]

Sorry for being dead for awhile (limited internet momentarily)

Loving the Agar vs Confid.Stop.
Want to go with Agar but this might be biased since I played with him before.Stop.
However day is still young so much can still be done.Stop.

drmy is normally more active.Stop
how many games is he currently in?Stop
he was in my last game where I was a failscum.Stop
makes me debate retiring.Stop
drmy post some stuff.Stop

[AGar]

Hmm.

Hypocrisy from CA is great.

"Why aren't you reading my defense? Why aren't you addressing my reason for voting!"

I do. It's nothing he can poke a hole in. He stops talking about it. Completely.

In other news, if CA flips scum, Beefster is likely scum too.

There's even a scumbuddy for you CA. Go back to your guys' QT and freak out like little girls right now, I think PZ will be ok with the daytalking in this scenario.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@curiouskarmadog- we have plenty of time, no need to lynch without thinking and re thinking

[ConfidAnon]

Ignoring AGar for right now because it's not going to go anywhere. Also, don't want this to become flaming.

Still don't like KageLord setting up a policy lynch.

[KageLord]

Ignoring AGar for right now because it's not going to go anywhere. Also, don't want this to become flaming.

Still don't like KageLord setting up a policy lynch.

Might be a bit WIFOMy (I hate this excuse for ignoring an argument), but I don't know why I'd set up a policy lynch (not even sure how I could be since I assume he will post something semi-useful to save himself before the end of the day, rendering my "policy lynch setup" moot) on Chrono for the end of the day when I could have just as easily jumped on the already forming wagon. I wouldn't look any more conspicuous than the person who gave "Baa." as a reason.

[Papa Zito]

The mosquito cloud descends with the dawn. As it always does. And of course it also starts raining, just to make sure the remaining baseball players are truly miserable.

The group begins to break up, salvaging sheet metal and thick vines to make temporary shelters and so forth, while yelling at each other about how they're one of the saboteurs. One of the more enterprising teammates begins trying to climb one of the huge tree trunks (in the rain no less) to get to the wreckage still suspended in the trees above.

Second Votecount of Day 2

1. Col.Cathart (0):
2. KageLord (1): ConfidAnon
3. Chronopie (4): curiouskarmadog, Gammagooey, StrangerCoug, Shattered Viewpoint
4. ConfidAnon (1): AGar
5. Gammagooey (0):
6. AGar (0):
8. Zorblag (0):
9. drmyshottyizsik (1): Beefster
11. StrangerCoug (0):
12. smashbro_of_the_SSS (0):
13. Beefster (0):
14. Shattered Viewpoint (3): Sotty7, PaltryExcuse, smashbro_of_the_SSS
15. Sotty7 (0):
16. PaltryExcuse (0):
17. curiouskarmadog (0):
18. silverbullet999 (0):

Players not voting: Col.Cathart, KageLord, Chronopie, Zorblag, drmyshottyizsik, silverbullet999

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
The current wagon leader is

Chronopie

at L-5.
Deadline: August 13th @ 11:59PM CST

[curiouskarmadog]

@curiouskarmadog- we have plenty of time, no need to lynch without thinking and re thinking

speaking of thinking, lets hear some stances from you.

[StrangerCoug]

I don't like Beefster calling out AGar for calling ConfidAnon a newb

OR

ConfidAnon playing the newbie card. The middle one's theory that the other two are scumbuddies is sound.

Unvote: Chronopie
Vote: ConfidAnon

[AGar]

Ignoring AGar for right now because it's not going to go anywhere.

Because I'm right?

You asked why I was ignoring your defense. I said it was OMGUS loaded. You claimed it wasn't. I pointed out the reasons it was.

You asked why I ignored your reason for voting. I pointed out that I hadn't, and re-iterated how I felt about it.

Why are you now choosing to ignore me?