/Invitational 11: Pick your Poison 5 (Game Over)

[Kmd4390]

Dgb's reaction to a vote is awfully defensive.

[mith]

"Remember that scum have to pick their roles in the next 24 hours. During that time it be best not to talk about suspicions."

And claim, Kmd.

[Zorblag]

@Kmd4390, to be completely clear, claim hider or not hider. Nothing else.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[My Milked Eek]

Not hider.

Also, a one hider claim is dodgy

[Kmd4390]

Not hider

[My Milked Eek]

fucking spastic pinky on my keyboard

[cont]as hell. I don't remember whether the hider claimer was pushing for hiders to claim or not.

[Hoopla]

*twiddles thumbs*

[Amished]

*twiddles thumbs*

I'll... twiddle something else? >_>

[Hoopla]

ARGGHHHH

[Papa Zito]

Hoopla is covered in cake.

[VasudeVa]

Sooo...Is it safe to throw out votes yet?

[Papa Zito]

I dunno. I'm not sure when 24 hours is up.

[Herodotus]

I'm pretty sure 24 hours is up.
But before I vote, I'm thinking... if there is a player who is obvscum, should we quicklynch them in the hope that the scum janitor won't be able to use their ability in time? The disadvantage is that they can use the ability on a future day if that player didn't get the janitor role.

[Rhinox]

Hero: if a player is

obv

scum, why would it matter if scum used the janitor ability? We'd already know they're scum.

[Hoopla]

Yeah, it's kind of silly when you consider you need 12 players to quicklynch someone, and those 12 need to somehow all agree that this particular person is very likely to be scum before everyone else gets in. What sort of things have you been looking for so far, Hero? Do you have any significant reads either way?

[ekiM]

If at some point there's someone who's so so so scum that we would want to quicklynch them anyway then we might happen to do it fast enough to stop the janitor being online in time to use their ability... but I don't see why they would want to use is there. Not worth adjusting our play around at any rate.

Also, janitor can't sweep himself up, Herod.

[zoraster]

i am not in favor of quick lynching just to quick lynch.

I am, however, in favor of lynching DGB.

Vote: DGB

just to confirm.

[Herodotus]

Also, janitor can't sweep himself up, Herod.

What makes you think that?

[Papa Zito]

I like Herod's plan. Tho I don't think we have 12 people sitting here silently agreeing. Or how we'd figure out if they are.

If at some point there's someone who's so so so scum that we would want to quicklynch them anyway then we might happen to do it fast enough to stop the janitor being online in time to use their ability... but I don't see why they would want to use is there. Not worth adjusting our play around at any rate.

Not letting the janitor sweep up means we get to see a scum PR flip.

Also, janitor can't sweep himself up, Herod.

False. Reread the role.

[Hoopla]

I like Herod's plan. Tho I don't think we have 12 people sitting here silently agreeing. Or how we'd figure out if they are.

Or, you know - the likely chance the janitor is one of those 12 people or others silently lurking...

And that's if you want to lynch without claiming...

[Mr. Flay]

Two clarifications have been added to the first page:

• A janitor does receive their shot back if No Lynch occurs on the Day they use it.
  
• A janitor may retract their shot anytime before Lynch happens.

Scum's 24 hours to choose power role assignments are over.

[mith]

Hoopla: 299, go.

My Milked Eek: I'd like an answer to Troll's question in 247.

Re: Quicklynching... if someone is obvscum, it doesn't matter what the Janitor does, and unless we catch the Janitor V/LA or something we're not going to get from 0 to 11 without the Janitor noticing. If we're talking more "someone is a few votes from lynch, we should just hammer them quickly rather than discussing further/waiting for claims", there's more of a chance at getting a lynch in that the Janitor might want to clean up but can't, but I don't think that makes up for the loss of information (in discussion near hammer, claim, etc.) - it's similar to my issues with Hoopla's "lynch all power role claims" plan. It also hands the scum a defense they wouldn't normally have if they want to quickhammer someone ("I thought they were obvscum and wanted to avoid the Janitor!").

[Papa Zito]

Well.

VOTE: Hoopla

Let's go then.

[zoraster]

Well.

VOTE: Hoopla

Let's go then.

Justify your vote, please.

[Papa Zito]

no u

Plus it's not like this is a big surprise.