Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

[ortiz1193]

Saying "unvote or I'll claim" is tantamount to claiming a PR, which would was incredibly stupid to say if you actually are one, Fugi, so at this point a claim from you wouldn't persuade me one bit about DH or change my mind on you. I'm willing to go as far as to say you're probably actually vanilla looking for reactions judging from how you've done gambits like these before (if memory serves). I don't like TL's sudden unvote.

Call me stubborn; I'm not changing.

This came up in Iso... goes with the Fugi kill well. However, most scum I've played with are afraid to kill anyone who was suspicious of them so I'm hesitant, but I like to have a vote down and Pie coming at me first with no previous suspicion is likely because I was an obvious target for today.

vote: Pie

Fugi was also talking about a Twomz/Pie scumteam so that could be plausible at this point, and you all should know how I feel about Twomz at this point.

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Trying to figure out why Friend voted HC (without having to reread his posts/lazy), I just remembered that HC was pushing TL yesterday after the Tracker claim, which comes off as trying to build suspicion on the investigative role because he knows there's likely a doc in the way to prevent him from getting a kill off. Not solid evidence though, and I like my Pie vote for now, so I'll

FoS: HC

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[Jack]

ortiz will probably be my vote, haven't rechecked anything though

[ortiz1193]

Derp, forgot this part.

...seriously?



Well, I can't decide between DH and Friend. Friend is still seeming a bit odd, but DH is now saying he knew jack was being stupid the entire time (aka "nice cover!") and countervotes look a bit odd too.

hrm

I reject these two candidates and substitute my own!

Vote: Twomz

No other thoughts?

@ IP: I usually wait for conversations like this to finish before I comment on them. I'm a strong believer in 'do not answer questions posed at other people for them'. That said... if Jack is just gonna pull V/LA after that, then I might have to read over what others have said and trying to figure out who is saying what (a little confused which side is which). Interesting first day though.

k

Unvote

Vote: DemonHybrid

I can't tell if Fugi is still RVSing or not.

These posts were pretty close together, if not consecutive. Pie's vote/unvote of Twomz is off. I don't see anything in Twomz's post that would logically lead him to unvote. Looks like a light bus with the way he let off like that.

[esuriospiritus]

ortiz is town, dudes. I am fairly confident of that fact.

People trying to get one of us lynched by PoE and nothing else are baaaaaaad. Like Pie/Twomz.

vote: Pie

[InflatablePie]

I'll reread later to bring up a better case on oritz, but:

a) Don't see how it goes with the Fugi kill. Fugi softclaimed a PR, that's probably why he was killed. WIFOM all you want, but I've been scum many times before and killing someone who is so highly suspicious of you is usually regarded as a bad move. Hell,

you

even waffle a bit here and doubt your own reasoning, which weakens your case.

2) I asked him to provide other thoughts. That's all. He did; I unvoted.

[TheLonging]

Let's get some of those lurkers in here before I vote anyone mmk?

[Jack]

ortiz is town, dudes. I am fairly confident of that fact.

People trying to get one of us lynched by PoE and nothing else are baaaaaaad. Like Pie/Twomz.

vote: Pie

mmm

vote:esurio

[sorasgoof]

Day 2 Vote Totals

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Jack,

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[2] esuriospiritus:

Twomz, Jack [L-4]

[2] InflatablePie:

ortiz1193, esuriospiritus [L-4]

[1] ortiz1193:

InflatablePie [L-5]

[1] Kov:

Haschel Cedricson [L-5]

[1] Haschel Cedricson:

Friend [L-5]

[0/5] No Lynch:

None

[0/5] Deadline Extension:

Not Voting:

TheLonging, Kov, ready2rock

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

STILL LOOKING FOR A REPLACEMENT...This is harder than it looks like. >_>

[ortiz1193]

Let's get some of those lurkers in here before I vote anyone mmk?

Waiting on anyone in particular? Everyone's posted except Kov.

People should explain their votes more. ._.

[TheLonging]

I'm waiting on Kov + more Twomz

[Twomz]

Lynching esurio or ortiz would be a decent plan if we can figure out which one is scum. Lynching both to try to find scum wouldn't be >.> So, if we are unable to get a definite feeling about one or the other we should just hold off on them and try to find scum from other sources.

[ready2rock]

With what both of the neighbors have said about the other being town reduces the chances slightly of one of them being scum, but we can't rule it out. If one of them is scum, I could very much see the motivation in saying that they're town and not to go after them. It would definitely put the target off their back.

That said, I'm calling it about a 50/50 chance of one of them being scum (much less than what I thought yesterday).

[InflatablePie]

Jack, esurio's misguided. He's most likely not scum.

Between Marathon Day, work, and other things (won't be here most of the day, for example), I haven't been posting as much. I'll reread/build a case on oritz whenever I get the chance. (b' ')b

With a doc dead and a claimed tracker, though, I'm inclined to believe that one of the neighbors is scum. It'd be too townsided for all three neighbors to be town, even with the paranoia factor, IMO.

r2r: Obviously, either one of them is scum or they're both town. 50/50. Which of the two are you leaning towards being scum?

[TheLonging]

fuck this

Vote: Kov

my suspicion on Pie + ortiz is still unfaded

[ready2rock]

@Pie: my point in that last sentence is that at the end of day 1, I was almost certain that one of them was scum. Now that DH has flipped town and each of the neighbors think the other town, those chances have gone down for me.

@TL: Why are you voting Kov? He's getting replaced.

[TheLonging]

Kov needs to post here and tak, or his replacee can explain his predecessor's actions.

[sorasgoof]

I'm just about to message random people asking them if they want to replace in. This is ridiculous. >_>

[ready2rock]

Isn't there a thread in the queue for this purpose?

[ortiz1193]

Please take note of Pie pushing the neighbor lynch. Twomz's post actually made sense though. ^5

If we're all 3 town, scum will be pushing the "2 town 1 scum" idea hard because once 2 of us flip town they'll be able to push the third on LyLo/get an easy mislynch today.

If Esurio is scum, they'll obviously push me today and then tomorrow bring up the possibility of Esurio being town tomorrow. Friend's post made me earlier, so if it is Esurio I'd bet Friend is a buddy. Now that I'm posting this, I think I'll reread Friend because that is scummy as hell and I didn't even realize it.

[ortiz1193]

Meh, maybe not. The scummy thing I thought Friend did Day 1 was noting TL was a PR and then pushing him, but I just realized that he unvoted TL and switched to Pie a few posts later.

Still do not like Friend's post today, Pie/Twomz still seems more likely than Esurio/Friend though,

[TheLonging]

and before that, ortiz didn't like Twomz at all

hmm

[ortiz1193]

and I still don't...? I was just saying his post made sense, and that's how today should be played. Scum can still be right you know.

[Twomz]

I thought ortiz originally said I was townish then changed his mind as the day went on... eh, don't remember much 'solid' stuff from yesterday.

So our main targets are: One of the neighbors (no one's showing any clear proof either way), Kov and Friend? It seems to be that Pie is conditional on me being scum >.> which I'm still not sure how that's true but w/e. Is the consensus that if Friend is scum then esurio is most likely scum as well ortiz? Or are you trying to get esurio to be more promising target to get you off the hook?

[Friend]

@Mod: I'm V/LA until Tuesday. Sorry about that.

[TheLonging]

Pie
ortiz/essi
Kov
Twomz

one of those folks