Mysterio wrote:Your overreaction is quite telling
. If indeed a PR is lost (this assumes a bunch of things that would not be revealed by RCing), but we gain information on scum that narrows the field down, then what have we really lost? Your reaction seems like an obvious attempt to sound pro-town, while at the same time avoiding a tactic that could make it harder for scum to blend in. PR's are not to be protected at all costs, which your overreaction seems to suggest.
bold is mine.
what exactly is my "overreaction" telling?
yes... I am upset, since you continue to insist on something so obviously wrong... you would gain so little information of it, it would never be worth losing a PR for it...
problem with it? do you think it is scummy? well, say it outright then, and get the courage to vote... but you know you are wrong and your attack is total nonsense, so you keep it on vague terms because you know you would be totally shot down.
Mysterio wrote:We never really got a chance to get some reactions to my claim, but that's essentially what I was going for. It also occurred to me that RCing could be a really good way of boxing in scum and forcing them to have to fake claim, and just by doing that we would be limiting their ability to blend in. But no one agreed with that. However, all is not lost. As I said, there were a couple people who were insistent on lynching me, as well as Narsis who very obviously just jumped on the bandwagon. So, even if I do get lynched, that's some valuable information right there.
so you are still insisting what you were doing was the right thing to do?
Mysterio wrote:Reactions to claims can be invaluable, since scum usually react in two extreme ways:
1. They either completely believe the claim and never bother to be at all suspicious about it (when they arguably shouldn't know what my alignment is).
2. They overreact and flip out, trying too hard to sound pro-town.
where did you get this from? scum can just fake to know nothing perfectly... there are other ways of getting reactions, and they have two big advantages:
1. they are usually more effective, e.g., take a direct attack on a player... it's much more likely to get a telling reaction by that than it is by a claim where nobody is directly addressed and can therefore just pretend to know nothing.
2. they don't have the enormous drawback of outing your role... even if you are a VT, outing is bad... remember, a VT's job is to get NK'ed and as Chronopie said after you are outed, the probability for that decreases exponentially.
this also responds plum's post:
Plum wrote:Was it really hurtful to the Town? Well, throwing in the VT bit was a little, but we can deal and it doesn't seem to be anything but a nulltell that he did it. The talking about NKing bit comes naturally in explaining why outing himself doesn't hurt the Town, as it won't lose the Town a powerrole by NK tonight.
I'm quite comfortable with my vote on you right now.
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TheButtonmen wrote:Preview Ninja'ed by Plum, more to come after I read her post.
I still want to hear that post you promised...
is
this all you can come up with?
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VasudeVa wrote:Vote: Narsis
would you mind posting a reason for your vote?
all you did the whole game was jumping on other people's attacks/bandwagons without any comments at all...
I think you deserve a
FoS: VasudeVa
