Open 236 - Pamplona Mafia (C9++) Game Over

[Prox]

Hm...no, I don't think it's OMGUS.

[Beefster]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Guys Dry really isn't all to scummy, but beef is definitly pushing the wagon along with net, now I'm not saying they are scum, but I've had my suspicions about these two throughout and I think they may have slipped again.

Vote: Beef

Beef I thought that you were just dumb, but you may just be a really good fake VI

[drmyshottyizsik]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

Ok as true or untrue as this may be, it kind of looks like you and Net put him L-2 to L-1, just to set up a town hammer, so the next day that towny would get suspicion on them, and you could drive that wagon to a mislynch too.

[Beefster]

WIFOM much?

I really hate your voting habits, drmy. It's making me think you fakeclaimed as scum.

FoS: drmyshottyizsik

[yabbaguy]

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease pleasepleaseplease stop using "______ much?". It really, really sucks as a cliché and needs to die now.

Notwithstanding that, Beef-454's tone pings scummy on a hunch.

BTW, my hotel provides unlimited access, so I can safely say I'm merely Limited Access at worst.

[Netlava]

Drmy's stance on dry - "I'll hammer dry" to "dry isn't that scummy" - is inconsistent.

Also, dry, if you say that someone is appearing to scumhunt, then that's like saying that person is townie. Scum don't actually scumhunt.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Drmy's stance on dry - "I'll hammer dry" to "dry isn't that scummy" - is inconsistent.

Also, dry, if you say that someone is appearing to scumhunt, then that's like saying that person is townie. Scum don't actually scumhunt.

I got less busy and re read and analized and thats how I feel

[Netlava]

Also, making excuses is a bit of a scumtell, imo.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also, making excuses is a bit of a scumtell, imo.

It's not an exuse I'm just telling you my thought presses and how I feel

[Netlava]

Yeah, I wasn't referring to your post.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Yeah, I wasn't referring to your post.

Oh ok, please be more specific

[Netlava]

It's a general statement.

[drmyshottyizsik]

It's a general statement.

Okey doekey then

[Alduskkel]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

Ok as true or untrue as this may be, it kind of looks like you and Net put him L-2 to L-1, just to set up a town hammer, so the next day that towny would get suspicion on them, and you could drive that wagon to a mislynch too.

Don't you mean L-3 and L-2?

On the one hand, Beefster and Netlava's votes were kind of bandwagony. On the other hand, drmy's sudden defense of Dry Fit vs. his bandwagoning on Dry Fit to L-1 earlier makes me happy with my vote.

Seriously drmy, how scummy is Dry Fit to you? You voted him to L-1 and didn't mind if someone hammered without claim; then you backtracked on TWO things. One, that you would mind if someone hammered without a claim. Two, that you in fact don't find Dry Fit very scummy.

If you were Town I would have at least expected you to be consistent in your opinions, but lately I see nothing but 180s.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

Ok as true or untrue as this may be, it kind of looks like you and Net put him L-2 to L-1, just to set up a town hammer, so the next day that towny would get suspicion on them, and you could drive that wagon to a mislynch too.

Don't you mean L-3 and L-2?

On the one hand, Beefster and Netlava's votes were kind of bandwagony. On the other hand, drmy's sudden defense of Dry Fit vs. his bandwagoning on Dry Fit to L-1 earlier makes me happy with my vote.

Seriously drmy, how scummy is Dry Fit to you? You voted him to L-1 and didn't mind if someone hammered without claim; then you backtracked on TWO things. One, that you would mind if someone hammered without a claim. Two, that you in fact don't find Dry Fit very scummy.

If you were Town I would have at least expected you to be consistent in your opinions, but lately I see nothing but 180s.

I told you I actually took the time to think really hard about that, and I took a risk changing my mind, but I think it's for the good of the town.

[Alduskkel]

Alright drmy, then how do you explain the obvious contradictions between 426 and 429? They were made two minutes apart from each other.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I have little faithin claims, but sinse the town thought other wise I unvoted. I did it for the town, to see what they could get from a claim.

[Beefster]

Well, then, if you have such little faith in claims, I'm sure you don't have much in your own claim. If your claim turns out to be true, we really haven't lost much.

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik
Your bandwagoning and backpedaling are both awful. Your claimed role is expendable if it is true, and I can see a newbscum thinking it's a safe role to claim even though it's completely CC-able.

[Dry-fit]

Also, dry, if you say that someone is appearing to scumhunt, then that's like saying that person is townie. Scum don't actually scumhunt.

Then you have a different definition of what the word "appearing" means. Actually just remembered that with the possibility of an SK scum can scumhunt in the game.

Once again dr you claim to be doing things because that's what the town wants. I'd like to know what drmyshottyizsik wants.

[The Fonz]

Netlava is right. If someone says 'X appears to be scumhunting' that means 'It looks to me like X is [actually] scumhunting.' Not 'X is either scumhunting, or trying to look like he is.'

My problem with Dry-Fit is less saying little, which can be explained by RL issues, as with what he says (or rather, doesn't) whne he does post. I don't see scumhunting. I mean, he apparently took some fairly serious effort to meta me (having claimed to have seen me do something in multiple games- to my recollection, I've never played with him) then came up with one minor and incorrect point and dropped it immediately it was challenged. The rest just seems to be him trying to discourage anyone from attacking him.

That said, Zajnet was every bit as bad in this regard, and also has:

a) Misrepresenting me by claiming that him being V/LA- not posting- had ANYTHING to do with why I suspected him

b) His opportunistic and hypocritical jump on Dry-Fit when it looked like the latter was going down

c) The contradiction between his earlier fencesitting and point b). Sure seems like he made his mind up quick when someone got put in killing range, doesn't it?

I'd probably rather vote for Zaj than Dry-Fit right now, but I'll only do it if someone's willing to go with me- there's no sense in forming a one-man wagon at this stage.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.13

Dry-fit - 3 - The Fonz, ekiM, Netlava
Beefster - 3 - Zajnet, Prox, drmyshottyizsik
drmyshottyizsik - 2 - Alduskkel, Beefster
Alduskkel - 1 - Ythan
Netlava - 1 - Dry-fit
Ythan - 1 - yabbaguy

Not voting: ...

With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch. Deadline: August 16

V/LA: yabbaguy, Aug 13-16

About an hour short of 2 days until deadline.

[Beefster]

DryFit: Do you find drmyshottyizsik suspicious? Explain.

drmy: Do you find Dryfit suspicious? Explain.

[Beefster]

PEOPLE! We need to agree on a lynch. We've got like a day left.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Suspicious? Hmmmm. Strange coice in word. Well yes but I find every body suspicious because I don't know for sure if anyone is anything. And I agree on a lynch on you.