Mini 1011: Help! My Computer Got Infected! (Game over!)

[FakeGod]

Alright, it seems that we're not going to mass claim. That's fine, especially with the apparent absence of protective roles, but since UK claimed a PR, I was hoping to see how many PRs we have and get some hints to UK's claim's legitimacy.

@UK: you claimed bulletproof? And you think vig/SK/maf shot you last night?

This is what Dig said before night started:

Also: If there is a vig/sk (probable due to the two kills last night), I would not recommend killing tonight. If you hit a townie and the mafia kill goes through, there's a chance that that would be an instant loss.

I seriously doubt that vig/sk shot if he/she had a choice.

I'm starting to think that you're mafia who, seeing that cop has a guilty report on you, decided to pull a fake-claim gambit hoping that vig/sk would step up and say "I didn't shoot anyone last night." and out themselves.

And Bproof is a rather safe claim for maf to make, since they usually don't have to worry about people shooting at them.

Not to mention the fact that she claimed her role name and power separately, which weakens her claim.

Alternate Theory #1: UK is mafia GF who's immune to NKs. This fits weaker but it would cover for tomorrow should vig/sk decides to test her claim. But I because I believe there are 3 mafia remaining, especially with SC's last flavor, I'm going to assume that we won't have a tomorrow if we lynch wrong today, and there won't be a chance to test her claim.

Alternate Theory #2: I'm wrong.

Seeing that twomz is, indeed, a cop, (Yes, I'm aware that he could be insane, UK), I'm willing to lynch his guilty report.

Vote: UncertainKitten

Speaking of which, Fake, why did you hammer before JJ even responded to either of the cases?

I believe my post 516 can clarify.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, it's theory two. I am a bulletproof. I figured I got shot because it would make a modicum of sense to vig me on suspicion of twomz being right. I'll be honest, I'd have shot me.

As for claiming the role name and power separately, I honestly forgot that we had role names, quite a failing on my part.

[UncertainKitten]

Anyway, we now have at least one scum on me. Any more want to make the jump?

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, right, and finally, there have been two kills a night. Even if I were hypothetically mafia, a bulletproof power would be plausible.

In other words, it is just as I said. My role MIGHT be proven, depending on the actions of the vig/SK (or possibly mafia), but it does NOT prove my alignment.

What's hilarious is the continued lack of a case on me.

[FakeGod]

You believe vig shot you even though Digs

specifically

told vig to not to shoot right before the night started or else risk a instant-loss?

And you just forgot about the role names?

On top of that, there's a guilty report on you by a confirmed cop who didn't flip insane. (I'm aware that Twomz still could've been insane)

Sorry, UK, but I find it pretty hard to believe that you're town...

[UncertainKitten]

To the first, again, that is what I'd do. Maybe I'm daring but I'd have shot me.

As for role names, yeah, so? I haven't looked at my role PM since the start of the game. I just knew I was bulletproof. All that mattered to me. Can't really say much more about it. I guess it's a point against me.

On top of that that guilty is a null tell, but you dumbasses refuse to actually SCUMHUNT, so guess it's derp our way to a loss because we followed a likely insane cop.

Sorry, FG, but I find it pretty hard to believe you have a brain and are using it...

(Well, unless you're scum :V)

[FakeGod]

On top of that that guilty is a null tell, but you dumbasses refuse to actually SCUMHUNT, so guess it's derp our way to a loss because we followed a likely insane cop.

UK, I read through the posts you made around d2 ~ d3, and instead of legit scumhunting, most of the posts were just you defending yourself... (or attacking JJer, probably trying to save yourself...) :/

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

UncertainKitten (2): PieMan, FakeGod
screl1 (1): Nobody Special
Not voting (4): diginova, Me=Weird, screl1, UncertainKitten

With

7

players alive, it takes

4

players to lynch.

[UncertainKitten]

On top of that that guilty is a null tell, but you dumbasses refuse to actually SCUMHUNT, so guess it's derp our way to a loss because we followed a likely insane cop.

UK, I read through the posts you made around d2 ~ d3, and instead of legit scumhunting, most of the posts were just you defending yourself... (or attacking JJer, probably trying to save yourself...) :/

To be fair, I had to defend myself pretty heavily to prevent you all from making a silly mistake. But, admittedly, that was a lapse. JJ did seem rather scummy though.

[diginova]

Oh, right, and finally, there have been two kills a night. Even if I were hypothetically mafia, a bulletproof power would be plausible.

That really reads like scum trying to explain away a fakeclaim. Why would anyone that isn't fakeclaiming need to question the plausibility of their role?

On top of that that guilty is a null tell, but you dumbasses refuse to actually SCUMHUNT, so guess it's derp our way to a loss because we followed a likely insane cop.

Your constant verbal attacks do not read like town at all; you've constantly gone and defended yourself without actually giving any useful cases. Even after you're telling us to scumhunt, you haven't been doing much of it D3. Your cross attacks with PieMan don't count; it reeks of mafia cross-voting each other in an effort to confirm one of them upon the flip.

A summary of your play, which reads really like cornered scum:

"Really intent on that easy mislynch, aren't you?" (Iso92)
"That's quite a risk to be taking on a suspect cop result, screl." (Iso99)
"So, what's hilarious, is Pieman is voting me in likely lylo. So, WELLP :V!" (Iso100)
"Didn't we establish the possibility of Twomz being insane? This hasn't been disproven, and in fact, by my perspective, proven." (Iso105)
There are more, but I won't bother quoting the rest.

In addition, your fear of quicklynches is a little excessive.

"I'd vote you now but the possibility of doubling quicklynch chances doesn't really appeal to me yet." (Iso101)
"Well, essentially, unless three scum pop out of the woodwork to quicklynch me, it's pretty obvious one of us is scum." (Iso102, nice scumslip, using "us")
"it's possible you're just sticking me in a dangerous position quite selfishly for when the mafia do show up, if they haven't already." (Iso104)

Yes, THREE SCUM who probably cannot daytalk with each other could happen to come on and vote *instantaneously*. You know what would happen if I got a notification that people were replying to the thread? I'd unvote, and then the people that started piling on without reasons would obviously be mafia, and we could pick them off one by one.

I'm going to

Vote: UncertainKitten

. This puts UK at L-1, so think long and hard about hammering, whoever does it.
Also, if UK flips scum, FakeGod is town. The opposite is probably true, but it will be too late then

[FakeGod]

Unvote

I gotta V/LA for few hours, and I don't want anyone hammering before I get back, if town don't mind.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, whatever, might as well put my vote down since no one cares about lylo.

Vote screl

Tellan you he's scum. I really hope you figure this out before lynching me. I could be convinced to do an ISO showing precisely why screl does not have the town's interests at heart.

Also, your case is partially bullshit, especially the scumslip part. Quite obviously, Pieman voting me in lylo puts us in a 1 v. 1 of sorts unless I get quicklynched.

At any rate, daytalk arguments are really fucking terrible as well because, guess what? Scum can come up with a signaling method in their posts! I've seen it done before.

Constant verbal attacks are a null tell with me. Read some of my prior games. It's something I've been trying to cut down, admittedly.

And, I have no idea what the hell you are even trying to say about my claim since it's about the dumbest logic I've ever seen, and this game has had a lot of dumb logic.

[diginova]

Look at Iso85 for the most telling point... UK is doing the exact same thing that she was vehemently against yesterday.
We've got you, cornered scum. Goodbye.

...wait. Why the fuck are you asking who killed vezo and trying to OUT A VIG? What the fuck is wrong with you?

[UncertainKitten]

You see, there's a difference.

WE WERE GOING TO MASSCLAIM

dumbass.

[screl1]

would prevent watcher tracker

cop

from claiming when they might have vital information?

trackers and watchers can claim - I already said this. I said that anyone else should just keep their head down because it doesn't help any.

Screl, please claim in your next post.

no

so guess it's derp our way to a loss because we followed a likely insane cop.

What makes you say he was likely insane? If you were town I would expect you to say he was insane, also if he was coming back with guilty results on town mafia would have left him alive to be lynched today - has anyone else thought of this?

annnd

Vote:UK

[PieMan]

@Screl I SED teh maf mai k33p Twomz alive 2 use an insain kop against uz, it wuz a possibility. Itz knot ironclad reezon 2 sai he iz sain, but it duz hav sum water.

[PieMan]

@diginova Y dew U believe UK and I R running a gambit, wuld it knot hav ben ezier 4 us 2 sit bak and just kill sum1 else? I culd hav alwaiz jumped on UK l8r if she seemed 2 hav teh attention necezzery 2 die.

[UncertainKitten]

Hi screl, there's such a thing as a

PARANOID COP

:V.

Not even gonna get into the WIFOM arguments present in PieMan's post.

[screl1]

Hi screl, there's such a thing as a

PARANOID COP

:V.

If he hit mafia and got a guilty result - mafia would nk him
If he hit town and got a guilty result - mafia would let him live so he would be lynched the next day

my argument still holds

[UncertainKitten]

That's utterly stupid.

If he hit town and got a guilty, there's still the insane chance, and an insane cop is as good as a sane one once they realize they're insane.

I don't think it would have been too hard for him to figure out his sanity.

So, if people will stop with the fucking stupid arguments, could I have a real case? Or are you all too dumb to come up with anything before mislynching me?

[screl1]

So, if people will stop with the fucking stupid arguments, could I have a real case? Or are you all too dumb to come up with anything before mislynching me?

diginova has made the best case against you so far - you have yet to respond to it.

[UncertainKitten]

Derp a fuckin derp, screl

[diginova]

You keep going on about the insane cop.
You're the one who originally brought up the insanity defense:

This is Iso75.

So...wait, you all are trusting a "cop result"

In a bastard game?

Are...all your brains turned off or something? You actually assume Twomz is sane just cause he said so? If I might suggest something, I'd say, maybe, just MAYBE try to build an actual case before jumping on someone's results. See if a guilty makes sense, you know?

See, normally this argument is stupid, but I once again will point to the fact this is a BASTARD GAME. And guess what happened in SC's LAST bastard game? There were NON SANE COPS :O!

Even in a bastard game, sane cops are a very high probability. Just because a role was used once doesn't mean it will be used all the time. It really seems like scum trying to desperately stay alive at all costs, and you're trying to see if you can get everyone to believe your insane cop gambit if you keep insulting people and stating it over and over again. It lasted you one day, but that's as far as it goes.

This is LyLo, and you're our best bet. I stand behind my vote on UK, and I think it's getting close to hammer time.

On a side note, some meta that is not necessary for the case, but interesting:
Normally if a townie is investigated by a cop and gets a guilty in a game with a redirector, they don't claim insane cop. They claim miller or redirection. The fact that you went to insane cop from the get go means that you knew you would get a guilty result.

[PieMan]

@digi plox xplain taht last part, and Y did u mention a re dirktorb?

[diginova]

@digi plox xplain taht last part, and Y did u mention a re dirktorb?

Wow, confusing games I'm in. I fail. Ignore the redirector part.

Point still stands; if a townie gets a guilty verdict on them, they don't instantly call out "insane cop" and continue that constantly. They'll normally claim miller, something scum won't do.