The explanation is simple, didn't think I had to spell it out. I agree with what Oso said. Now, in light of xvart's claim I am even happier with my vote right where it is.Humble Poirot wrote:@q21:Why are you voting sotty? You are giving no explanation whatsoever.
I read the post and I don't remember saying that I did see the watch at the time. The reason why I didn't originally find it scummy is because he was watching a player (You) who had a town read from me. However, Oso's later post discussing why Vezokpiraka watching you may have a scum motivation because Oso/KageLord were active power roles and that he may have watched you just to be safe.Humble Poirot wrote:this post is the first after vezok's claim he watched me. At the time, you didn't find his watch scummy. You make no mention of this issue until after Oso had raised it but you say you did see it at the time?
Considering that we probably have a lot of power roles, it got through my head that "anything" could happen and not taking into account bastard/theme roles.Humble Poirot wrote:Forgive me, but this sounds like poor reasoning. What would happen if there were 3 doc claims? Anything can happen too? With your apparent philosophy, counter claims would be totally useless for town
I'm not completely willing to rule out the possibility of them being scum together as I do think xvart's scenario is a possible one. However, I do feel that out of those two claims, that they're more likely to be part of different alignments. It is more likely that Sotty7 is scum then diddin based off of what happened.Humble Poirot wrote:So they can't be scum together? Did you read xvart's claim?
To be honest, I previously had no idea what a swingy set-up was, so I thought it was similar to "anything could happen" in where there was a lot of power roles involved. I will probably say that some of our roles are lying, based off Night Actions and evidence of scumminess in-game.xvart wrote:I really don't like how SSBF is latched on to this idea that anything can happen in this game based on the roles that have been revealed. There is a difference in a swingy game and a game where anything can occur. Based on the roles, I wouldn't even consider it swingy, but the possibility of one faction being overpowered is a possibility. Swingy games imply that one faction could have a strong lead and then the next day be totally behind, and I don't see that as the case in this game. Either the town is way overpowered or some of our claimed PRs are lying about alignment.
Are we? What if the mafia have a Godfather? I do not think it is prudent to assume that the town is overpowered because that would mean you trust all the claims so far. We know for a fact that Sotty is scum. Once she flips, we'll know more and have a better idea if (and who) is lying, and we'll have another round of PR night claims to see what people claimed to do to cross against motives and actual outcomes.vezokpiraka, 799 wrote:The town is way overpowered.
Do you agree that tracking diddin tonight will yield us important information about his alignment? What do you think will happen if we track diddin?Super Smash Bros. Fan, 800 wrote:I'm not completely willing to rule out the possibility of them being scum together as I do think xvart's scenario is a possible one. However, I do feel that out of those two claims, that they're more likely to be part of different alignments. It is more likely that Sotty7 is scum then diddin based off of what happened.
1. Yes I do think that. Note that I am not automatically assuming that if Sotty7 is scum, diddin isn't scum as well. If he does not use his action Night 3/claims that he was roleblocked, then he's likely scum at that point who lied about his role.xvart wrote:Do you agree that tracking diddin tonight will yield us important information about his alignment? What do you think will happen if we track diddin?
If it helps prove me as town, I am ok with it.xvart wrote:How do you feel about being tracked tonight?diddin, 805 wrote:Just posting to avoid prod. I have nothing to say until sotty is lynched.
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I would still like to hear it post game.Sotty7, 817 wrote:Well damn. I had this whole thing planned out but I guess I should forget it now. This game has a crippling set up, quite annoying.
No. Stay on target. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMDV3eISLPs#t=0m20sdiddin wrote:I was planning on doing something else with my Jailkeep, but I will go with the plan or me and Oso will work out something in neigbour chat.
