Ladies Night -- Game Over

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/confirm

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Haylen and UK are not scum together. Post 4.

Thoughts:

Haylen. Null and annoying. Also grow up. We should probably lynch you just because you annoy me to the bones. Why is Pads newb town? Why do you keep attacking camn for weak reasons (not having a breadcrumb, WTF?) if you know you are not good at town?

Hoopla. Null, slight town for stances. What analysis can you make of the answer to your question in page 1?

Sucrose prob town. 34 has a relaxed tone. A scumbag would prob have avoided feeling good about her SK win.

Eurios is obvtown. 35 is extremely sincere. 69 is a good reason to vote Apoka.

Apokalyptika first scum. 55. Wishywashyness against Hoopla (first null, then she deserves a vote, mmmkay), weak stances, use of "interesting", I like the word overjustify. Vote for camn is a total disaster

Vote: Apokalyptika.

Camn is also obvtown. 71 is awesome. I also thought of a Haylen-Hoopla relation, something only a scumhunting mind could deduce.

UncertainKitten null , could be town for stances but she voted for obvtown camn and is being too kind with Snow Bunny. Prob relation here.

Snow Bunny also null but prob scum for not voting in her first post despite she suspecting Hoopla and camn.

Sotty is null. His vote for Paws is lazy in the context of all that was being talked at the moment. The defense of Apoka rings me sincere but Ill need to evaluate it after we get the Apoka flip.

Paws. POST OR DIE.

chauchau is also prob scum. In 92 he is attacking Euro for attacking Apoka but also attacks Apoka. DOES NOT COMPUTE. Also wtf eurolove, only camn said she was ok? ALSO WTFX2 where does the Snow Bunny vote come from?

Others please Prod or Replace.

Ojanen said she needed a day or two at confirmation time, DGB made a post right after you, and Fenchurch made a post yesterday. I'm not giving out prods just yet, but Ojanen's on the edge.

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My internet is being stupid. V/LA for a couple of days.

Noted

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People that should totally die:

- Apokalyptika.
- Snow Bunny.
- Haylen.

UNVOTE VOTE: APOKALYPTIKA.

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I agree that the best places to find scum at this point of the game are either

a) The early parts of the Paws wagon. (Sotty7 - UncertainKitten - Apokalyptika - Haylen - DrippingGoofball) ->Prob Apoka and/or Haylen.

b) The non voters. (Bunny, chauchau, Sucros, Hoopla, Ojanen) -> Prob Bunny or chauchau.

c) My list. (the scumz)

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Apok is obvscum.

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Just her first serious post of the game is a bunch of scumtells.

Ok, this is interesting.

I'm not sure what Hoopla's trying to do here; on the one hand I doubt that scum would give themselves such a high profile so early, but on the other hand her behavior doesn't scream town.

I fail to see whether it matters if Hoopla cares about me as a player or not, but

for the record: I played a couple of newbie games a while ago that I'm too lazy to go back and look up, and I don't know that I have a playstyle or anything to offer the town other than trying to win using my best reasoning.

I admit that my opinion of Hoopla may be skewed negatively due to the dismissive attitude that she's currently taking with the few players that haven't met her high standards. In addition, I personally dislike when RL emotions and the intentional triggering of same get involved in Mafia games,

and Hoopla seems to be trying to piss as many people off as possible. It may possibly be a tactic to motivate discussion, but it seems more likely to cloud logical reasoning with emotion and thus give scum more room to maneuver.

Also, newest Hoopla post came up as I was about to post. Now I'm definitely feeling padding; either try to bring the game out of random stage or don't. I think I'm currently justified in casting a

vote: Hoopla

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Apokalyptika scumbag really didn't know how to start this post without sounding too scummy.

Whishy Washy about Hoopla. Also she takes into account the possibility that Hoopla may be town but only looks for the bad reason to vote for her. TLDR: Voting people for nulltells.

My playstyle? How about you don't know how to catch me if I don't play to my town meta?

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More than the others?

I mean.. I agree, and want Apok to hang... but a competing vote?

Morea than the others, yeah.

Competing votes are good stuff. Day has just started.

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I can't Day Talk. Ok?

Who is scum and why? Now.

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I can't Day Talk. Ok?

Who is scum and why? Now.

I said this just now. camn for her post before and camn for yesterday.

No additional suspects?

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Im posting something tonight.

Also Im definitely a girl. Mod, dont worry there.

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Dont hammer me until i've posted properly. I will be pissed.

Mmm. Haylen might be town.

Gotta get myself more of that Ojanen luv.

VOTE: Apolyptyikca

I actually got the opposite impression of this post. Specially when Haylen has just 4 votes and its at L-3. At least, this reaction is null and not the town tell you are supporting. I approve the Apoka vote though. Wholeheartedly.

Basically we need to get rid of Apoka, Bunny and Haylen. As I said, I strictly prefer Apoka going first. (Overall scummines in posting, euro suspecting her a lot, lurking scumbag when being pressured, reducing my case to "I didnt post a playstyle" when it definitely wasnt the only thing I disliked about it)

Im prob missing one scum in the side of the crafty ones but Ill leave the hard work after I get this flip.

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cepi, I didn't comment on the other things you said were scummy about my first post because I'd already elaborated on them before.

Why do I feel that you arent really trying to convince me you are town?

You know what? Id really like a scumlist from you, Bunny and Haylen. In their following posts. If you are town, do it asap.

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Ugh, I suck at defending myself, and that's not excuse. However, I'm impressed how many of you have jumped to my wagon without apparent reasons (unless, of course, "reads scummy" is the new trend I just missed.) For some reason, I'm still behind camn's vote. I feel there's too much talk and little good in her posts. I don't see the reasons of Apok's wagon, and the Haylen wagon isn't appealing.

What are these reasons you dont see on the Apok wagon? Why are they bad?

Why the Haylen wagon isnt appealing?

Also, yeah, scumlist plz.

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Fair point. I didn't take that into account.

FoS UK

For getting highly pissed off over one vote. It seems desperate.

Dont you usually get pissed off for suspicions?

Also, WHERE THE HELL are my scumlists??????????????????? Apoka, CLAIM OR DIE. AND SCUMLIST OR DIE.

Haylen, where is your scumlist? Bunny, same question.

Example:

Cepi scumlist:
Town

Ojanen
Hoopla
camn
DGB

Dunno

chauchau
fenchurch
sucrose
sotty
UK

Scum

Haylen
Bunny
Apoka

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Im really struggling to believe the Apoka claim. First, she didnt claim what she did yesterday. Second, she breadcrumbed when she was pressured, which is something that scum do all the time when they want to fakeclaim... (where is the breacrumb anyway?). Then, if she were a power role, she would not have dissapeared when there was a posibility of lynch. And finally, townies claiming power role get the feeling of vindication because they subconsciously think their claim will confirm them and start hunting for the people that pushed the lynch. What does Apoka do? Go to take a nap?

So, yeah, I think Apoka is lying. But she is not the play today. I agree with that. What we should do is decide what to do with her kill. And if there is a real vig over there, please you know what to do now.

So after this, I suppose you all decided to go for an awesome wagon, maybe a snowbunny wagon, or maybe against mrs. haylen............ WAIT, CAMN WAGON?

Camn wagon is stupid as hell. You all should unvote her now. And Ojanen should be ashamed of herself because her camn case is a little - but only a little - more reasonable than Haylen's case, which is one of the worse cases Ive seen in my time here.

Tell me. Did or did not, Paws flip town? And she was also a newbie. Thus she was newb-town? Was I not right until I allowed myself to be pressured into viewing Paws a non-newbie? Tell me. Why am I not wrong about you

Just a little gem from that massive pile of BS. At the moment you called Paws newb town, THERE WAS NO INDICATOR of newb-town behavior in Paws. If you think Im wrong, Id really like you to go and find me a single reasonable evidence of newb town behavior. What is even worse is that you are using this as a way to clear yourself and attack camn, which is ridiculous in itself. Please die.

Vote: Haylen.

Unvote first, please.

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This is what I think I have so far:

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Snow White chauchaudotcom
Ojanen
Fenchurch
Apokalyptika

PROB TOWN

Hoopla
UncertainKitten

OTHERS

Sucrose
camn (I have a town read, but I haven't read the case on camn yet)
Sotty7
cepi
Haylen
SnowBunny

This I cant tolerate, specially from DGB.

Why there is no scum in this list=?

This only means one thing. DGB is also scum.

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^^^^^^^
RRRRRRRRNGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Did I hear a chainsaw? I think I heard a chainsaw.

I think camn is town. If a chainsaw is react to the stupid cases they are posting against her while at the same time letting scape the obv scumminess of the obv scumbags, then call it like that if you wish.

Do you really think camn is that scummy? More than Haylen? More than Snow?

What do you think of Haylen case?=

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Haylen, where is your scumlist?

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Good thing it's rather fair, huh?

So, any particular reason why you are not answering my questions?

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Im going to fell pretty stupid if camn turns out scum but I STILL think she is town and these scumbags Haylen and Apokalyptika are so obvious it hurts.

Please kill me, scumbags.

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Refusal to claim? Resignation to the lynch?

Oh well, what the hell.

Unvote, Vote: camn

If this isnt a OBVSCUM post, I dont know what it is.

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I have no idea in what moment we got away from this list.

I agree that the best places to find scum at this point of the game are either

a) The early parts of the Paws wagon. (Sotty7 - UncertainKitten - Apokalyptika - Haylen - DrippingGoofball) ->Prob Apoka and/or Haylen.

b) The non voters. (Bunny, chauchau, Sucros, Hoopla, Ojanen) -> Prob Bunny or chauchau.

c) My list. (the scumz)

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If Haylen isn't vig'ed, Apok is lynched. No questions asked.

Hell no. If camn flips scum, there is no way on earth Haylen should be vigged. We should be shooting someone off the Day 1 wagon - Sucrose if camn flips scum, and Snow_Bunny if she flips town. Haylen should only be considered if camn flips town, but even then Snow_Bunny should take precedence over Haylen.

I agree with this.

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Pretty sure chauchau/Snow-White is a townie slot.

Yep, I was about to post that... voting for a dead townie is pretty much town shenanigans.

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If Haylen isn't vig'ed, Apok is lynched. No questions asked.

If ANY vig occurs this would be the most fucktarded thing you could do.

Its pretty clear that an aditional kill confirms Apoka.

If he is a vig, he should chose :

Haylen or Bunny if camn flips town.

I have no choice if camn flips scum, because I havent thought on that position, but Ill trust Hoopla, and say Sucrose.

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Unvote Vote. Snow Bunny

I need to reread Sotty and Sucrose. I really have no read on them.

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UK, you are wrong. I know it's hard to admit it, but your reads on me are wrong.

Why dont you think she is scum?

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I guess I just found two scum: Bunny and UK.

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[quote=""Bunny Iso 20"]So, my scumlist would go as follow right now:
camn
Apok
And UK. Why UK? Well, I've been reading her posts again, and there's something I don't like. First, UK gives me the impression of opportunity jumping on Paws' wagon, and then now on mine. Back on D1, she says twice that she prefers a replacement than a lynch, yet she doesn't change her vote:

Insert too long to quote case here.

Wow, to be honest, this is better than camn's.
Unvote, vote: UK
An UK flip would be better than a camn flip.[/quote]

UK, calm down. There's no need to get like that. It's just a game. Geez... Although I must admit,

your reaction to my attack only strengthens my suspicious of you.

Haylen's defence at UK is also noted.

(WOW, THIS IS FREAKING SCUMMY IF WE ASSUME BUNNY-UK SCUMTEAM)

Specially taking into account that none of her points brought to counter my points are facts rather than just her personal opinion. And, last time I checked, why would a town defend another town like this if they are not sure of the alignment?

[quote=""Bunny Iso 22"]Though Apok's breadcrumb is bad as it can be, it's something that can be handled later. And seen as UK's wagon won't take off, I rather lynch the other scum.
Oh, don't you think it's funny UK have jumped to every (or well, almost) forming wagon?
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One would expect Bunny to HEAVILY suspect UK after her other two suspects are now confirmed town.

BUT

Ok, I must admit I wasn't expecting that (camn's flip).
For now, and due to most of my suspects going down, I want to turn my attention to Hoopla.

Vote: Hoopla

I'd go for either a Sotty or Hoopla lynch, actually.

Please lynch NOW.

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Hi cepi. Why are you a fucktard?

Hi UK, getting butthurt I caught you? Too bad, Bunny is so bad at distancing.

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cepi, please look at the DATA in my post #673 and tell me what you think.

Hoopla is voting a lot and Sotty is not getting a lot of votes. I agree this is a soft indicator that Sotty is either too lurky, isnt attacking a lot of players or that she is not being bussed.

Also why arent you reading my possts?

CAN YOU ALL PLEASE ISOLATE SNOW BUNNY AND SPOT THE OBVIOUS FAIL AT DISTANCING WITH UK?

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[quote=""Bunny Iso 20"]So, my scumlist would go as follow right now:
camn
Apok
And UK. Why UK? Well, I've been reading her posts again, and there's something I don't like. First, UK gives me the impression of opportunity jumping on Paws' wagon, and then now on mine. Back on D1, she says twice that she prefers a replacement than a lynch, yet she doesn't change her vote:

Insert too long to quote case here.

Wow, to be honest, this is better than camn's.
Unvote, vote: UK
An UK flip would be better than a camn flip.

UK, calm down. There's no need to get like that. It's just a game. Geez... Although I must admit,

your reaction to my attack only strengthens my suspicious of you.

Haylen's defence at UK is also noted.

(WOW, THIS IS FREAKING SCUMMY IF WE ASSUME BUNNY-UK SCUMTEAM)

Specially taking into account that none of her points brought to counter my points are facts rather than just her personal opinion. And, last time I checked, why would a town defend another town like this if they are not sure of the alignment?

[quote=""Bunny Iso 22"]Though Apok's breadcrumb is bad as it can be, it's something that can be handled later. And seen as UK's wagon won't take off, I rather lynch the other scum.
Oh, don't you think it's funny UK have jumped to every (or well, almost) forming wagon?
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One would expect Bunny to HEAVILY suspect UK after her other two suspects are now confirmed town.

BUT

Ok, I must admit I wasn't expecting that (camn's flip).
For now, and due to most of my suspects going down, I want to turn my attention to Hoopla.

Vote: Hoopla

I'd go for either a Sotty or Hoopla lynch, actually.

Please lynch NOW.[/quote]

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Either way, lynching Sotty or Hoopla is the best for today. So, how about if we start some love?

DGB, I've seen you posted a lot of possible scum / scum teams, yet you don't cast a vote.

Hey, Ive seen you posting a lot of scummy stuff, yet you dont answer a direct case I posted AGAINST YOU.

PLEASE DO SO.

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Either way, lynching Sotty or Hoopla is the best for today. So, how about if we start some love?

DGB, I've seen you posted a lot of possible scum / scum teams, yet you don't cast a vote.

Hey, Ive seen you posting a lot of scummy stuff, yet you dont answer a direct case I posted AGAINST YOU.

PLEASE DO SO.

There is NO case to answer! I still think UK is scummy, but the latest posts of UK have diminished that feeling and Hoopla and Sotty have drawn my attention even more. Happy?

CAN WE PLEASE LYNCH THIS SCUM NAO,

IT HURTS EVERY POST I SEE WITH NO MORE VOTES ON HER.

HOOP,Z DGB, OJANEN, PLEASE.

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The ones at the end of past day. When camn's wagon began to form and end.

Can you quote these posts and explain clearly why they made you think she wasnt as scummy as you thought all freaking game?

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See, the big problem with your terrible posting, cepi, is the fact that you indict me PURELY based on Snow_Bunny's actions, and refuse to build a case on ME. I'd suggest you do that if you want to catch scum, rather than hypothesizing INCORRECTLY in a vacuum. That's how you learn to not be stupid ^-^.

Why are you not voting Snow Bunny if you think she is scummy?

Do you think its suspicious that she was all day 2 calling you scum and now she has forgotten about you?

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Any reason why you think Bunny is town, Mrs. DGB?

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Hi cepi. You're not reading the game, are you? If you were reading the game, you know that I have a marked preference for a Snow_Bunny lynch. But, DGB is doing something I approve of, so I've acquiesced with her current request.

Please read the fucking game now, please? Cause I've been voting Snow_Bunny since nearly the start of the day. I switched on DGB's request because I think it will help decipher who the scum are more certainly.

But, hey, we agree on one thing.

Snow_Bunny is scum.

She needs to die soon. But we also need more vote activity before I switch to her if I understand what DGB is doing correctly.

So lets see : you arent even sure what DGB is doing but you prefer voting another person (trusting someone who could very well be scum) instead of who YOU think is scum?

How the fuck do you dont want me to suspect you?

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Im VLA for a couple of days. My access is being ext silly.

Noted

I have reservations on the claim.

Either way, lynching Sotty or Hoopla is the best for today. So, how about if we start some love?
DGB, I've seen you posted a lot of possible scum / scum teams, yet you don't cast a vote.

Hey, Ive seen you posting a lot of scummy stuff, yet you dont answer a direct case I posted AGAINST YOU.
PLEASE DO SO.

There is NO case to answer! I still think UK is scummy, but the latest posts of UK have diminished that feeling and Hoopla and Sotty have drawn my attention even more. Happy?

If you had an innocent on UK, why did you think she was still scummy?

I might as well ask why didnt you investigate camn night 1?

And there is the DGB lack of result night 1.... Im borderline thinking that we should go all in with the information stuff and decide if Bunny is either confirmed or scum.

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Ok, so 1-1. Not as happy as I should be because I have my reservations on both claims.

WE NEED MOAR INFORMATION.

Bunny, this is a serious question, why did you investigate DGB instead of camn in night 1? Your top suspect was camn, just like UK was in night 2.

Izzy, why did you protect Ojanen?

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What made you change your mind to "Ill investigate whoever the hell I want" last page to this soft response last post?

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After the flip, it was pretty obvious DGB was town.

Anyways, yeah, Ill wait for a Bunny result.

Depending on who she targetted and if my calculations are right, Im pretty sure we have this game in the bag.

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You should just go ahead and admit that you're scum cepi.
Would make this a whole lot easier.

this is a joke right or are you being serious?

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I love cepi's Monday Morning Quarterbacking. It's hilarious.

I could care less what you think.

I really hope Bunny were smart with her investigation yesterday. With your result, the unclaimed power role and poe, pretty sure this is winnable playing a logical puzzle.

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Vanilla.

Miyu next.

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Ok. Even if Hoops counterclaims Id believe Miyu more (way of claiming, emotional outburst, etc).

That means that the remaining scum from my POV are UK, Hoops and Sotty. I have a town read on Hoopz, I have a mildly scummy read on UK and I have a neutral on Sotty (Ill need to recheck some things with a reread). UK has an investigation on her so she is either GF or town, that means she is not remotely lynchable today and will probably win a ticket to endgame depending on how things go today.

If we lynch scum today then we DEFINITELY win even if UK is GF(win the game as a logical puzzle). If we hit town today then its going to be a little harder and we'll probably have to win it the normal way.

So we have

3T, 1 T or GF, 3 U

with 2 S alive (where T:townie, GF:godfather, U: unconfirmed, S:scum).

So the play today is to lynch 1U. If we hit S, then we enter night with

3T, 1TorGF, 2U

with 1 S alive. Apoka vigs another U, Bunny investigates another U and Miyu jailkeeps the TorGF.

Next day, worse scenario, we have

2T, 1TorGF,1U

. Since there was a kill then the unconfirmed is scum. Lynch and GoodGame. If there wasnt a kill, then we are in

3T,1TorGF,1U

. Confirmed 3Ts outnumber 1S and 1U. With a combination of lynch on 1U and vig on 1TorGF, GoodGame.

If we lynch town today then things arent as easy and there is no logical puzzle to follow. I have a plan similar to the one above but gets us in trouble if UK is GF. We probably end in a 4player endgame with 1U and her. Let me recheck things if we can avoid this scenario.

But for now and for POE,

Vote: Sotty.

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I am going to need a couple of days to get back my normal access. Please, mod and all.

Please try to get a post up by this weekend or willingly bow out.

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thats me btw

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argg freaking top of page, i hate you so much....

but yeah

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oh joy

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Hoopz, there is also something that is bothering me quite some:

Your jailkeep meta suggest that you jailkeep people you think are town. Why did you target DGB night 1 if you thought she was scum (and there was some consensus on her)? Why not Fenchurch for example?

Hey, Bunny, important question here, did you get different PMs from mod in night 1 and in night 3?

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Yeah, as I reread more, I get more convinced Miyu is teling the truth here and that Hoopz is an amazing scumbag.

First, Miyu claimed first. Only choice for Hoopzscum would be to counterclaim and avoid the logical puzzle win. The timing slightly favors Miyu.

Second, lets see, if Miyu were scum then why would she refuse to claim and indeed softclaim? Miyuscum would know there is a town jailkeeper, why play the softclaiming and refusing to claim card if she knew there would be someone that was indeed the jailkeeper and could own her? This makes me think that Miyutown is indeed the jailkeeper, was not expecting Hoopzscum would counterclaim and was trying to not out herself.

Like I said previously. This entire massclaim has been a total waste. Could've lynched a scum without revealing...

It clicks perfectly with her town motivation and her

not knowing or expecting a counterclaim.

Now, there are some inconsistencies in Hoopz behavior. I dont see Hoopztown jailkeeping DGB night 1 with other players like Ojanen, Fenchurch and camn in the mix (likely targets for nightkills)and with a jallkeeper meta of protecting people, not roleblocking scumbags.

Who I'm not lynching today: camn, Fenchurch, Ojanen

Id also like to point out that Hoopz attacks DGB for clearing Ojanen for being smart in day 2, suggesting she thinks Ojanen is not one of her top town reads (subtly confirming this in iso 47).

Ojanen, can you explain your DGB town read? I find it quite bizarre you've put her right at the top of tree, when you've posted very little about her (and when my opinion differs heavily from yours)

But then later she goes from this stance to blindly following her in her camn hate and then after camn came up town, she still PROTECTED her night 2. Why wasnt Hoopztown paranoid about Ojanensmartscum after camn flipped town?

And finally we have this amazing piece of information from Snow White:

No vote because they are MY PRECIOUS!!
3-9 tomorrow. Should have more by then. Would not be against a esurio lynch but right now you all seem set on other people.

Context: day 2. This is Snowhite second and final post of the game and catchup post until page 6 before being replaced by Miyu. At that point of the game, esurio was already killed by scum night 1. One would say that by that point, Snowwhite scum would have already caught up in the scum QT and know that esurio was the nightkill for quite important reasons, yet she is disinformed of this event and has her as a top suspect for lynch.

So yeah, nice try but you are scum Hoopz.

VOTE: HOOPLA.

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I hate UK's timing, specially in a context where we should coordinate night actions. Stupid UK if you are town.

Anyways lynching wrong today doesnt mean game over. And lynching right means we win no matter what.

Would like to point out the plan for our power roles tonight. (Im considering myself as unconfirmed and posting this as an outside analyser so that you can all analyse it from your own point of view and understand this is a plan that works 100% of the times. DO NOT LET THE SCUM ALIVE TRY TO MESS WITH IT.

If we lynch right

Apoka should target one of the unconfirmed, that means either Sotty or cepi. It doesnt matter who. Miyu should jailkeep UncertainKitten in case she is the godfather.

Next day, if we havent won with a Sotty or cepi vig, we analyse if there was a scum kill or there wasnt a scum kill. If there is a scum kill, this means UK is NOT the godfather (since she would be the only scum alive sending the kill and she would have been jailkept). Lynch whoever is left of Sotty and cepi and win. If there wasnt a kill, then lynch UK, no matter how hard she cries. We can still vig or lynch whoever is left of Sotty and cepi the next night/day in case she was crafty enough to not send a kill (its 100% stupid and useless anyways.)

If we lynch wrong

, Apoka should vig Miyu and Bunny should investigate one of Sotty or cepi. Your call here. Next day, there is no logical puzzle to follow and people alive should reread and follow gut to lynch right. (worse scenario is we enter a situation with both unconfirmed and a townie or godfther alive).

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PLEASE, IF WE LYNCH RIGHT, WHICH I THINK WE ARE GOING TO DO, FOLLOW THE PLAN ACCORDINGLY. DONT BE STUPID AND DONT LET SCUM MESS WITH IT NO MATTER WHAT.

THX AND GOOD NIGHT.

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If you are town, then that play is really stupid. We werent in a rush, there wasnt deadline and Id have liked to get Apoka confirming who would she vig, Miyu confirming that she would target you and basically PLANNING night actions, which are the ones that guarantee town win if we lynch right today.

And yeah there is still the remote but still latent possibility that Hoopz is indeed the jailkeeper, (if somehow Miyu is an evil mastermind capable of predicting my read....). Shutting off discussion with your hammer with you not even being sure you were lynching scum makes me dislike that maneuver even more.

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Then why play?

Game aside, Ive sincerely lost a lot of respect for you, UK.