Scummies Invitational (OVER!!!)

[Mr. Flay]

Votecount

(now with added replacement!)

Slicey

Seraphim (6) -- Ojanen, Hoopla, imaginality, mykonian, SpyreX, q21,
SpyreX (4) -- Incognito,

Slicey

Seraphim, populartajo,
curiouskarmadog (1) -- Tenchi,
imaginality (1) -- curiouskarmadog,
vollkan (1) -- Kmd4390,

Not voting (1) -- vollkan

13 alive, 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends on August 27th, 8:00am CDT.

[Seraphim]

Oh fantastic, another game where I'm L-1 coming in. Hooboy. Gimme some time to read and shit.

[Hoopla]

CLAIM FIRST.

[Seraphim]

Hoopla, I don't even have my role PM.

[Seraphim]

I would feel a lot better if someone would unvote so I don't need to worry about being quickhammered while reading the game.

[Hoopla]

YOU WON'T. JUST START CLAIMING THO.

[populartajo]

I think this wagon sucks is because Spyrex is scum and I dont see Spyrex and Sliceyphim as scum together.

Also this:

Kinetic, what I don't understand is, is that you keep talking about how bad Empking is in other games and how much of a liability he is, yet you're not commenting on him in THIS game, which is what actually matters. Empking has made enough posts that you can comment on, whether you think it's townie posts or scummy posts, yet you have said nothing on him in this game. You're voting him and attacking him for nothing he's done in this game, but his meta and reputation alone.

For that, I will Unvote, Vote: Kinetic. I'm not liking anything he's saying.

From the game I remember with Slicey (Twilight mafia) I definitely see Sliceyscum bussing Empking. Defending a player like Empking in day 1 with that strenght, when he is very likely to be lynched/vigged, is just asking for problems in the long term.

Also wtf at ckd voting imaginality. I explained clearly why imag is town

[populartajo]

I really dont know what to make of the vollkan defense. Its unexpected but still.

q21, Ive been pretty clear about this. We had already lynched Kinetic but we didnt have his flip.

Lynching Incog today is stupid because we dont have the Kin flip. It entirely dependes on the flip and the information it gives us about the players on the wagons. My position should be clear in the last post. I can understand why you think there is a contradiction there. "Lynching Incog is stupid regardless of Kin's alignment" means that I think Incog is town and that his lynch is stupid imo.

Having two lynches that

interconnected one with each other

when we didnt have the Kin flip was stupid. People thought Kin was town for his selfhammer. I didnt. We needed his flip so people that thought Incog was scum could go all in with the lynch. But what if Kin flipped scum. We would have lynched Incog because we assumed something. We didnt even need to rush things because it was day 1. Thats why Incog lynch was dependant of the Kin flip and not a 100% Incogscum situation as some people tried to paint.

Now from my point of view, Lynching Incog is stupid regardless of Kin's alignment, means that I think Incog is town and that his lynch is stupid imo.

Those two things are different. I understand why you think there is a contradiction there but I hope its clear now. You pushing and poshing this dead horse isnt helping what we are talking about now.

I've been pushing because I wanted this kind of explanation rather than just you saying the point was obv BS. Last question, if your personal opinion was that Incognito was town regardless why turn to the other reasoning to convince people not to lynch him?

Im not sure if I get this question. Please rephrase.

If you are asking why I am using additional reasoning to convince people not to lynch a town read, then the answer is pretty clear, right?

[Tenchi]

Reading the Slicey case now.

[populartajo]

also Pop, you still are rubbing me wrong...I read your posts in ISO, and cant put my finger on it. Strange question that I dont think i have ever asked before. Do you have any clue why I am getting scum vibes off you?

seriously, what valid answer do you expect of this?

I have no idea why you are getting scum vibes of me... maybe you should reread my posts better.

[Tenchi]

That's a Tenchi fail. I should've voted him either then, or when I posted in response to my prod. I stopped thinking about the game when I made my I'm sick post. Useless D1 vote, yes.
In retrospect, in the off chance I get sick again

VOTE: CKD

For getting sick 1 week after the post I asked about you're mentioning it a lot
You're saying you should have, but I just wanna know why didn't you?

If I remmeber right my vote was on Vollkan and I wanted a larger string of votes to see reactions. That didn't do so well because at that point there was this case on CKD.

In retrospect, the case on Kinetic now more likely seems to be a distraction on CKD.

[Tenchi]

OK from what I understand, we are lynching Slicey because:

1. He was part of the Kinetic wagon
2. We need as many lynches as we can afford D2.

My only concern here is that the later Incog wagon was similar to this, a quicklynch dominated and advocated by loud personalities in the game. I really do not think that the second D1 wagon was for a scumlynch (either).

I am ISO-reading Slicey now.

[Seraphim]

Okay guys, I'm only about a fourth way through the game and I have to go so expect more game thoughts tomorrow. But I finally have my partial role PM...I'm sure I'll be able to claim more fully once Patrick gets back.

I'm a doctor. I protected Myk N1. I'm assuming the scum targeted Myk N1 as well.

[Tenchi]

0. Answers Hoopla's questionnaire.
1. Advocates a KMD lynch. Think Vollkan wagon is "Terribad".
2. Comments on Kinetic's push on Empking and says that he's relying on meta instead of talking about his performance in the current game. Votes Kinetic and lays off KMD.
3. Claims that he is OK with an Empking lynch, but not a policy lynch. Says he doesn't have a good read on Empking.
4. Not sure what he was referring to here, but claims Spyrex has double-standards. Spyrex thinks Incog is town, but not Slicey.
5. Against an Incog lynch. Didn't say why.
6. Uses meta and now thinks Kinetic is "obviously town" and that "he didn't do anything scummy". Says his gut is telling him Spyrex is scum. Votes Spyrex.
7. Fluff.
8. Votes Spyrex, but his old reasons were... gut!

Going back to post 6. He uses meta reasons to figure out Spyrex but then he mentions that Spyrex says he doesn't want any more votes, but votes Incognito. [I'm checking that one out.]

From what I see here, Slicey is just looking for a wagon to put his vote on, and easily backs off to find another lynch targt based on how the votes are falling. I don't get why he just laid off the Kinetic wagon suddenly. Same thing with him laing off the KMD wagon. He didn't really pursue it.

[Tenchi]

Hoopla, I don't even have my role PM.

Okay guys, I'm only about a fourth way through the game and I have to go so expect more game thoughts tomorrow. But I finally have my partial role PM...I'm sure I'll be able to claim more fully once Patrick gets back.

I'm a doctor. I protected Myk N1. I'm assuming the scum targeted Myk N1 as well.

Partial? Your role PM came in parts?
ERROR ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE

[Tenchi]

This stops now.

We are not lynching anyone else today. Period.

The time for that was long past and the simple fact I threw down a vote because I was worried about 0 lynches sure as hell doesn't mean two.

TOMORROW, there will be a purge. A delicious one. We're not doing this again.

Take a shot if you want tonight q21 - I'm not going to cry if I die but a Kinetic town flip better be a damn bullseye on Empking.

And then two hours later...

I'll give it a shot but its a pipe dream.

Unvote, Vote: Incog

Wagon sliding much? Checking Spyrex's interactions with Incognito.

[Hoopla]

What part of the claim are you missing? For me, I don't believe it. I'm advocating a hammer if someone is weighing up dropping one.

[Seraphim]

I have no idea what I'm missing. Flay doesn't have my role PM and I'm currently waiting for the rest of it. though the way things are shaping up, I won't even need it.

I have my action and I have what role I am, which I didn't even get right away.

[Tenchi]

Now my concern here is that two of my biggest suspects is advocating this lynch.

I find the roleclaim REALLY fishy though. Also, my issue here is that a TownDocSlicey would be pumped in the game that his save went through, and that Empking died. Also, Seraphim, you have been around for about two hours-ish and I thought were you reading. Instead, your posts are really reactive. I do not get also why your role PM will come in parts.

I think the best move here is to lynch Seraphim/Slicey, then move on the SpyreX. Spyrex has advocated 12908902180921380123 lynches that his flip would be more informative than anybody else's, not to mention he was also part of the Kinetic wagon.

After that, I wouldn't mind a Hoopla lynch. Chop Chop!

(Well Hoopla going first is ideal. I'm gonna make a case on that tomorrow or friday.)

Vote: Seraphim/Slicey

[Hoopla]

One down. Kmd is next.

Vote: KMD

[Seraphim]

wow, lamest replacement ever.

[Hoopla]

wow, lamest replacement ever.

Sorry Sera - well, if you're town that is.

[Mr. Flay]

Slicey/Seraphim has been lynched (by Ojanen, Hoopla, imaginality, mykonian, SpyreX, q21, Tenchi). Flip will be announced as Day ends. All votes are reset.

Votecount

Kmd4390 (1) -- Hoopla

Not voting (11) -- curiouskarmadog, Incognito, imaginality, Kmd4390, mykonian, Ojanen, populartajo, q21, SpyreX, Tenchi, vollkan

12 alive, 7 to lynch. Day 2 ends on August 27th, 8:00am CDT.

[populartajo]

If Sera is indeed a doctor, Tenchi definitely needs to go. Reasons for his vote are lame as fuck.

I need the flip for checking my Spyrex hate who would have to wait until tomorrow for obv reasons.

Hoopla, why KMD?

[populartajo]

Unvote,

while I analyse my next suspect after Spyrex.