Newbie 985 Game over

[FakeGod]

Out of Nikanor's 3 people he suspected, 2 of them are now dead. Not sure if that is just a coincidence or not.

Because Nikanor actually was suspecting people in day 1, his lynch would be much more informational then DP lynch was.

Zach, last time we voted for and lynched a crazy person and he turned out to be town, I wouldn't want to repeat that mistake but if everyone else is for a tvell lynch I will support it, as for now my vote remains and my FoS on you too as I don't have a strict lynch all lurkers policy.
By the way Mod, how much time does Nik have before a PM or replacement?

I mean, you think DP's a crazy person, not that I blame ya.

[Excedrin]

Vote Count

FakeGod (1): Kalofer
Abe27342 (1): tvellalott
Nikanor (3): FakeGod, Abe27342, NashiNashi
tvellalott (1): Zachrulez

not voting: Nikanor
alive: 7 majority: 4

Deadline is AD 2010-08-26 10:30:00.000 PM (Thu) Pacific Daylight Time

[Kalofer]

I fail to see in what way the fact that Nik suspected people in day 1 who are dead right now will help town if we lynch him.

[FakeGod]

Then just think of it as a gut-tell then.

[Zachrulez]

No hammer at least until Nikanor gets a chance to post again.

Ideally, we don't lynch him at all. (At least not for what he's being wagoned for.)

[FakeGod]

ahoy Zach

DP with his dying breath said you're scum, how do you react to this accusation?

[Kalofer]

Then just think of it as a gut-tell then.

See now that is why I'm voting for you.

[FakeGod]

Kal, your words lost about 50% credibility in my ears after you brazenly admitted being inconsistent as abcdefghijk

[Kalofer]

I was inconsistent then, now I'm definitely not after I've heard more from you. Tvell seems legitimately scummy, but his scumminess is too much on the surface for me to commit a vote and I haven't heard enough from Zach to make good on my claims. And why even say what you last posted, it's not like I'm expecting you to agree with me and vote for yourself.

[Zachrulez]

ahoy Zach

DP with his dying breath said you're scum, how do you react to this accusation?

What? What does that have to do with anything?

Why do you suddenly think that's relevant to bring up now as opposed to any other previous point of the day?

[Zachrulez]

unvote: Vote: Fakegod

Kalofer is town. Fakegod's looking scummier and scummier in the last page or two. Attributing his read to Nikanor as gut after actively attempting to explain it, telling Kalofer to feel free to disagree with the wagon while actively trying to discredit his dissent. I'm liking fakegod for scum.

[FakeGod]

Okie Doke

[FakeGod]

Kalofer is town.

How sure are you

[Zachrulez]

Kalofer is town.

How sure are you

Sure enough to assert it.

[Nikanor]

Sorry about RL nik.

Nah, I ended up getting a job suddenly and it's really cut down on my free time (obviously). I even had to flake from a game, which I am definitely not happy about. But at least now I can eat this month, hooray!

Anyway, FakeGod, how do you feel about NashiNashi's alignment? I don't think you answered the question.

[FakeGod]

From post 501.....

Why am I not voting Nashi? Simple. I don't think he's scum.

I think I made it pretty clear to everyone how I feel about Nashi's alignment is.

[FakeGod]

le sigh

this game's under some of my games in night

[Zachrulez]

Sorry, I've been under the weather (and missed 2 days of work) and I haven't really been getting much better.

At this point though there's about a week to deadline and I'd be happy with a fakegod or tvel lynch.

[FakeGod]

Don't worry about it zach, at least you show up to say hi once in awhile.....

[tvellalott]

Having played so many games with roles and storylines, at this point I just don't care about this game.
Having said that, I am going to tell you all why you think I'm scummy: because my playstyle stands out.
I've looked at this game subjectively and I can see why I'm apparently "legitimately scummy".
HOWEVER
I've been playing a SHITLOAD of epicmafia lately and my scum-hunting skills have massively improved VERY quickly.

So, here it is, in order of scumminess...

tvellalott

: Me. I have encouraged voting, applied liberal and even pressure to most played, discouraged lynching DavidParker and have listened to other peoples theories.

Zachrulez

: Well, I clashed with Zach a bit earlier in the game and I don't think he has gotten over that. I see him as pro-town.

FakeGod

: I have FoS'ed the crap out of FakeGod and he has taken his lynch off me and started applying it to lurkers. I've learnt that lurkers =/= scum. I don't know... Probably town.

Kalofer

: Classic newb sheep, which doesn't really indicated anything. Fence-sitter and generally useless. Having said that, I still think he is reasonably pro-town. I'm trusting my gut on this one. :/

Nikanor

: Again, I just don't know. Was very pro-town first day, but lead the lynch on DavidParker and has been reasonably quiet so far today, even when pressure started to be applied. Understandably, he has life issues going on. Maybe scum, maybe town. We need a big, chunky post from you Nik and soon.

Abe27342

: My most last FOS still stands. I think you're flying under the radar and being generally useless. Probably scum.

NashiNashi

: Based on my recent experience, newb, unroled mafia tend to play exactly like you are. Flying low under the radar and when it comes to the crunch, they always seem to be lynching townies. You hammered Parker, which isn't a DEFINATE scum-tell and now you're on another bandwagon.

UNVOTE: Abe27342
VOTE: NashiNashi

[Nikanor]

We need a big, chunky post from you Nik and soon.

Don't count on it.

FakeGod, when did your town read of Nashi came into play? I'm thinking the same thing as Kalofer here: you're spending an inordinate amount of time asking questions of someone you think is town.

[Kalofer]

Well then tvell how about you stop playing so that your playstyle stands out and start playing normally, because frankly if you are town, you are not helping at all with your "legitimately scummy" play style, I mean is it that hard to not play as an A88hole, what the hell are you trying to prove anyway, as if you haven't fence sat and been wishy-washy? Though I agree with you that Nashi does look scummy enough with her limited activity and staying low under the radar, in other words I'd be willing to lynch him/her (sorry, I still don't know) when and if the time comes.

[FakeGod]

@kal: I'm actually quite intrigued by tvell's experimental playstyle, whether it would be successful in finding us the scum.

What better place to see "gun-blazing madness"'s viability as useful move than a newbie game?

though I'm beginning to suspect that most of the townsfolk are just ignoring tvell at this point.....

@Nik: I felt that he was town from day 1. Day 2 began, and we talked and cleared up some misunderstandings. I fail to see where the problem is.

[Zachrulez]

@kal: I'm actually quite intrigued by tvell's experimental playstyle, whether it would be successful in finding us the scum.

The question and answer to this is better suited for mafia discussion, with past game data to illustrate research toward the question.

For this game, it just qualifies as a weak defense that looks like an attempt to take Tvel off the lynch table, and does nothing to help the town.

[Excedrin]

Vote Count

FakeGod (2): Kalofer, Zachrulez
Nikanor (3): FakeGod, Abe27342, NashiNashi
NashiNashi (1): tvellalott

not voting: Nikanor
alive: 7 majority: 4

Deadline is AD 2010-08-26 10:30:00.000 PM (Thu) Pacific Daylight Time