Mafia on Holy Orders (Game Over!)

[Friend]

why in every game am I surrounded by idiots?

*cough* I see no response to my accusation. I am not an idiot, I know I'm not an idiot, and I take offense to that.

[animorpherv1]

@Friend:

You've said in the past that you support it because of pressure reasons or whatever. That's what I meant.

@Agar:

I classify VI as sucm, because VI lose the gamefor town anyways.



ALSO, I SWEAR IF I JOIN ONE MORE GAME WHERE HALF THE TOWN JUST ACT LIKE IIDOTS, I'M GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE.

[Friend]

I know, ani, but I've clarified my stance on that multiple times.

Not sure if ani's AtE here is scummy or not. However, classifying VI's as scum is certainly scummy.

[animorpherv1]

Alright, I understand.

And I'm sorry at the caps rage, but I swear, in all of my recently starting games (2 of which I replaced into) the town is comprised of people who joined MS and have no idea how to play mafia.

[Iecerint]

@ Soc -- Not quite. That time we were having a conversation about how I'd totally been inconsistent about something, and then you decided you just thought I was scum because of my warped view of the game or whatever. You're remembering the "warped" bit (which I was totally honest about and always holds) and not the fact that you originally caught me using inconsistent rhetoric.

I just reread Beefster in iso, though, and I think LL's vote itself doesn't make much sense. Beefster's

subsequent

posts still look kinda scummy, but the one LL voted him for is fine. I also agree with that first paragraph of Agar's (but not the rest -- it looks kinda fluffy to me). Personal introspection does imply that I, at least, would be more likely to criticize someone for "posting to post" if I were scum myself. I think different scumtells occur to me when I'm scum, and that's the sort of thing that would occur to me early game.

Unvote; Vote: LL

.

I had something else to say, but I forgot.

[Friend]

Yeah, VIs do suck, but they can be town too. Lynching them on policy is not right.

I've decided that ani's caps lock rage is giving me a towntell, somewhat.

unvote, vote: mothrax

I'm following the smoke!

[mothrax]

Geez, 8 pages. I am disliking ani's push for furclowe on policy. Seems forced to me.

unvote, vote animorpherv1

Where does that say didn't read? If I typed something I don't see let me know? Kthxbai.
To elaborate, ani pushed a policy lynch (and acrappy one at that) early d1 which I read as scummy. Hs over defnsiveness also comes across as scummy to me. The AtE doesn't help his case.

[Furcolow]

Still waiting on Zwetchenswessers top 3 suspects

[zwetschenwasser]

furcolow < patient
the following = least scummy to most scummy
furcolow < town
beefster < town
mothrax < town
ani = townish <> title/meta/etc
ad hom from ani < townish
ad hom from ani < called for

ergo,

Unvote; Vote: mothrax

[pacman281292]

Darn. This game is way too fast.
Nevermind the ISOs. I'm making a more general reread now (expect its results tomorrow). I'll be more active during the weekend, then when we're again on weekdays I will be pretty much caught up.

[Fate]

Unvote:
Vote: Beefster

[mothrax]

So let me get this straight, I am scum because I called a player out for pushing a policy lynch on D1, which is something that is scummy, and for calling someone out on AtE? Really? Awesome craplogic guys.

[Friend]

So you criticize AtE but then use it yourself? Hypocrisy is great too.

[Iecerint]

Unvote; Vote: Friend

Soc wins.

[Friend]

[Furcolow]

vote: zwetchenswasser

Policy

[Wraith]

FoS: Fate

for blatant wagoning. Not letting him slip under the radar.

FoS: Furcolow

What policy? Personally I think he's made some good observations.

Both the posts that triggered "smoking" had to do with policy lynches. Not entirely sure what to make of this but I feel that it's a sign of bad play in some way.

+scumpoints on Ani, find a new toy, please. The "Furcolow meta = evil" is getting old. I also think ani's rage is scum flailing.

Also, speculation on Holy Orders: competing cults, maybe?

@Incerint: I don't understand your sudden change of heart towards Friend. What post of Socrates is "made of win?"

[AGar]

Mothrax:

- The policy lynch alone doesn't warrant scum. It warrants an "Ani, stfu," but not a scumtell.
- AtE is null.
-

You

pointed out nothing. You echoed feelings of the thread.

However, contradictions are scummy.

That earns some major scumpoints in my book right now.

I like Zwet's reads so far, and even though he has the post restriction, I like his input overall.

Wraith is middling on a read for me. On one hand, he makes a lot of good points. On the other, he's getting a bit too overzealous on certain things, setup speculation being one of them.

I don't see Friend scum, or the motivations. He's been actively posting, showing a path of thought and poking and prodding where he sees fit. Quite the opposite right now, in my opinion.

[zwetschenwasser]

furcolow's vote < clear
wraith's speculation < healthy for town
wraith's ani case = voteworthy

ergo,

wraith should have FoS'd ani

[zwetschenwasser]

previous post = case

ergo,

Unvote; Vote: wraith

[zwetschenwasser]

waiting on mothrax's reply = mothrax bounced to #4 on scumlist for the present

[Wraith]

@zwet I'm already voting for ani

[zwetschenwasser]

zwet = stupid

ergo,

Unvote

[mothrax]

The difference is ani's AtE was based on all town being idiots and that is the kind of glaring overstatement that reads as scummy to me. Mine was based in those voting for me using craplogic. I have more to say concerning ani's policy push but I am on my phone ATM.

[Fate]

PING PING PING

IM ON EVERYONES RADAR.

NOBODY IGNORES FATE THEY JUST LET HIM DO AS HE DO SO HE CAN CATCH DEM SCUMZ