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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:09 am

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oops katsuki = kora
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:46 am

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I passed out last night before finishing the reread, and I've got a mandatory function for my scholarship today, and I'm going to a rave after that, so I'll finish tomorrow.
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Zaj wrote:I haven't read everything, so I missed both of those facts. Then I no longer believe Doombunny's claim. More will come later tonight after I reread.
So Mysterio being a mason makes my claim unbelievable? Seems to me your just trying to side with zwet.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:50 am

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VOTE COUNT 4.1

With 6 players 4 votes lynches.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:38 am

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zaj wrote:Yes, Mysterio being confirmed means you have to be scum. Simple as that. If y'all have to lynch me to see that, fine. We win by lynching me, db, and Kora.
1. How?
2. We can't lynch all three. If there's a 4-man scumteam then we can only lynch one since today is mylo. If there's a 3-man scumteam then we can only lynch two since tomorrow is mylo.

Vote: Zajnet
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Still need to hear from Kat about the report.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:59 pm

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Interesting, my report makes no sense whatsoever. Since I have no idea what to think of it, I will be ignoring it. Furthermore, since LMP can't claim who he investigated...

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Like zwet, I don't buy the commuter claim. Plus, we are at a point of lynching unconfirmed PRs anyways.

At least my report now says that pacman is innocent.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:05 pm

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Actually, Zwet, who did you investigate?
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:08 pm

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*Bleh, not sure what I was thinking. Zwet, ignore my post.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:39 pm

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@Katsuki, post the full report please. You're not completely clear of suspicion yet.

Once you do that, zwet can confirm who he might have investigated N3.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:03 pm

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Kat wrote:Since I have no idea what to think of it, I will be ignoring it.
GREAT idea -_- Generally, unless it would hurt town (which at this point would be pretty much impossible since we got everyone claimed) you should be outing your reports.

I'm still happy with my Zaj vote. He's been lurking like crazy (both him and who he replaced), not even paying all that much attn to the game and is leaning against zwet while doing a poor job of covering it up (I'm scum because Mysterio is clear... The heck?)
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:13 pm

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Mysterio wrote:@Katsuki, post the full report please. You're not completely clear of suspicion yet.

Once you do that, zwet can confirm who he might have investigated N3.
There is no point to me posting the report, considering that I think you are correct in your assumption. Furthermore, that is also probably the reason why LMP got NK'ed instead of me.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:25 pm

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Katsuki, that post doesn't make a whole lot of sense without context. You think I'm correct in what assumption? And what is the reason why LMP was killed instead of you?

Also, your reason to not post your report is weak. Even if you can't make heads or tails out of it, others might. Unless you think posting it will hurt town?
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:33 am

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if katsuki doesn't post the report, we lynch.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:02 am

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My reread is given me a very strong vibe that one of Katsuki and Korashk are scum.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:47 am

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Firstly, I got 2 investigation reports last night. I had to ask mod some questions, but I got 1 inconclusive, and 1 scum (two different people). Before, I thought that, as LMP is no longer alive, I find it meaningless for zwet to claim and lynch based on report analysis. However, as it's now confirmed that the inconclusive and scum are two different people... I would say don't claim scan target yet as I must head out know and I need some more time to think about things. I do not like WIFOM, and have a feeling lynching by scan targets would lead to that (whether to lynch or declare zwet's target as innocent).

We are not facing a godfather though. As mysterio said earlier, probably a mafia roleblocker left. Why I hadn't wanted to zwet to claim earlier, since we wouldn't know if 1. Zwet's was actually the inconclusive and 2. Who LMP's is.

Unless, we have 4 scum left. We have time to discuss today though.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:43 am

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You know, right about know is when I really start to wonder why in hell I haven't been NKed yet.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:20 am

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zaj wrote:My reread is given me a very strong vibe that one of Katsuki and Korashk are scum.
What did you read that made you change your mind about me? Also, I still want an explanation about the Mysterio is town=Doombunny is scum logic of yours.

Also to make sure I'm reading this right since Kat's wording confused me for a bit XD:

Kat got two reports yesterday. One said someone was inconclusive and the other one said someone is scum. We don't know who the someones are but we do know that the someones are two different people.

If this is right then here's what I think we should do: zwet claims who he investigated and we lynch that person. This brings the chances of hitting scum up to a 50% chance for a 3 person scumteam and a 70% chance for a 4 person scumteam (compared to a 33% chance for a 3 person scumteam and a 66% chance for 4 person scumteam
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:46 am

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@Katsuki, the problem is this: we can't move on until you post your results. Even if zwet claims a target, we can't know to lynch the guy unless we have your results to compare it to. Furthermore, you could still be scum. So, without those results, you're failing to clear yourself. If you're town, then you should see that as a huge problem. If you're scum, then we should just lynch you today.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:51 pm

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Doombunny9 wrote:
zaj wrote:My reread is given me a very strong vibe that one of Katsuki and Korashk are scum.
What did you read that made you change your mind about me? Also, I still want an explanation about the Mysterio is town=Doombunny is scum logic of yours.
There are two scum left. I know that I'm not one of them. I'm nearly as sure that zwet isn't one of them. I'm also nearly as sure that Mysterio isn't one of them. This leaves you, Korashk, and Katsuki. I think Katsuki is likely town because of his claim, so that leaves Korashk and you. If Mysterio wasn't (nearly) confirmed town, I would find you townier than him, but it's simple PoE that leaves you as scum.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:53 pm

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EBWODP: in b4 omg he knows there are two scum left so he must be one of them.

I don't know that there are two left, but I know that there are at most two left, and we have to assume that there are the most possible. If there really is only one left, GG.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:15 pm

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Mysterio wrote:@Katsuki, the problem is this: we can't move on until you post your results. Even if zwet claims a target, we can't know to lynch the guy unless we have your results to compare it to. Furthermore, you could still be scum. So, without those results, you're failing to clear yourself. If you're town, then you should see that as a huge problem. If you're scum, then we should just lynch you today.
Kat just did give her results. *points to post 488*

Also I feel this blatant contradiction needs to be pointed out:
zaj wrote:My reread is given me a very strong vibe that one of Katsuki and Korashk are scum.
zaj wrote:I think Katsuki is likely town because of his claim
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:43 pm

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@Zajnet, huge slip there. You tried to correct it after, but I don't see why you would claim two scum left as if it were simple fact when you weren't sure.

@Doombunny, that's not what I'm asking for. There is a specific format that her results are sent in, which she posted earlier. I want her to post the full results like that, which will make it easier to at least make an educated guess as to who the results correspond to. Once she does that, zwet can tell us who he investigated.

However, at this point I would have no problems with a Zajnet lynch.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:38 pm

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Doombunny9 wrote:Also I feel this blatant contradiction needs to be pointed out:
zaj wrote:My reread is given me a very strong vibe that one of Katsuki and Korashk are scum.
zaj wrote:I think Katsuki is likely town because of his claim
Please explain to me how, using whatever logic you so desire, that is a contradiction.
Mysterio wrote:@Zajnet, huge slip there. You tried to correct it after, but I don't see why you would claim two scum left as if it were simple fact when you weren't sure.
OMFG really? You always assume that there are the most scum possible, and act accordingly. 2 is that max. If there's one, great, but its irrelevant because we will play as if there are 2 left. Also, I've never been in a 12 person game with more or less than 3 scum, so meh.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:34 pm

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I've thought about it. Zwet, claim please.

We do not lynch zwet's target today, though it does not mean that they are innocent, if it is indeed a 4-man scumteam.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:08 am

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VOTE COUNT 4.2

With 6 players 4 votes lynches.
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Katsuki
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Korashk
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Mysterio
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Zajnet
(2)
Mysterio, Doombunny9
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No Lynch
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:14 am

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Prod sent out to Korashk. It is noted on his profile that he was on site Saturday, and I started Day 4 Friday. I expect him to post today.

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