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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:29 am

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Like I said, I don't think you were bathed in warm light because you voted Beefster, I think you were bathed in warm light because your post was anti-policy lynch (righteous action?). Otherwise, the only scumminess I see from Beefster is that he's disappeared.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:31 am

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My post didn't make any reference to a policy-lynch, though. This was my post:
Iec wrote:I like the burgeoning Beefster wagon better than my RVS SP vote. Unvote; Vote: Beefster.

Different reason, though. First, the claim that they're "playing on one another" (positing 2 scum) looks like an attempt to tie someone to a scumfriend more than a reasoned analysis. Second, the worry about hammering looks faked; I don't think Furco has more than a handful of votes, and this is a Large game. Third, I think the defensiveness about his prior post that begins that one ("Of course my last post wasn't very useful") leans scummy.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:33 am

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(Unless you're arguing that my post was anti-policy lynch inasmuch as it was scumhunting logic at-all, in which case it would seem to be a pretty nonspecific barometer.)
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:34 am

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Back to activity. Haven't fully read yet- any amazing revelations that go against Furc being scum?
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:40 am

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aforementioned revelations < existent
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:22 am

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Sebguer wrote:Back to activity. Haven't fully read yet- any amazing revelations that go against Furc being scum?
I am not a medic.
unvote

glad noone voted me when I voted me
I was voting me because I wouldn't ever do that as scum
therefore, I am not scum
I already knew that, but I was trying to prove it to you all

I was also doing it for another reason. I wanted to see if I would get smoke on that post. I was "taking one for the team", sort of.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:23 am

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vote: sebguer

his play has been absolutely awful
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am

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furcolow better be < serious in 422
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:03 pm

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FoS: Furcolow
OMGUS He's either idiot scum or idiot town, but I know he's smarter than he seems. VI IMO, because he wouldn't be attracting this much blatant attention to himself as town. I'm not going to go any further into WIFOM than that.

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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:05 pm

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wraith you are a good analyst
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:07 pm

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and zwess, I was being dead serious. I'll admit it's WIFOM, though.
I saw someone "unvote" in lylo once to say they were town without saying it. They obviously didn't have a vote on anyone. I said, hey, you look like town with that unvote, that means the mafia has to be this guy (the third player). They then voted that player without really hearing anything from them. I won as scum.

I guess I'm arguing against myself here, so I kind of agree with you zwess. I wish I had been kidding around. I was when I voted myself.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:08 pm

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Furcolow wrote:
Sebguer wrote:Back to activity. Haven't fully read yet- any amazing revelations that go against Furc being scum?
I am not a medic.
unvote

glad noone voted me when I voted me
I was voting me because I wouldn't ever do that as scum
therefore, I am not scum
I already knew that, but I was trying to prove it to you all

I was also doing it for another reason. I wanted to see if I would get smoke on that post. I was "taking one for the team", sort of.
What. The. Hell.
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What you did right now is what scum would do (try to pull out a shitty reason to get called town, and further worse in a meta-following town like this). You're just WIFOMing us, and in a really horrendous way.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:08 pm

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My point is less "let's figure out how things work, guys!" and more "You have said you think things work THIS way, but your behavior is NOT consistent with that."

Also, I just glanced through your iso. When did I push a wagon on Furco?
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:11 pm

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ok, guys, i'm going to go ahead and claim
I am just a townie. This wagon on me will be a mislynch if I am lynched. I wanted to act blue and draw a hit to help our team, but this pressure is unfounded and unwanted.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

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Furcolow wrote:ok, guys, i'm going to go ahead and claim
I am just a townie. This wagon on me will be a mislynch if I am lynched. I wanted to act blue and draw a hit to help our team, but this pressure is unfounded and unwanted.
Err... what?
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:16 pm

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Acting like a scummy VI is not the way to draw a nightkill. That's they way to draw a vig or a lynch.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:21 pm

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I don't really believe I've been acting like a scummy VI whatsoever. You are categorizing my play from other games. Read me in iso.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:27 pm

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Point, but it's more that I'm confusing your entire game of play with your last 6-10 or so posts. You've been playing terribly since the self-vote.

Also, I'd like to bring up two suspects from earlier that I forgot about. Locke Lamora has disappeared, not posting for two days, and I believe that was when a few people started questioning his play. Vezokpiraka hasn't contributed much at all, voting for people and failing to provide any reasoning for said votes. For example he voted AGar at one point and I have no clue why he would do that. There's also the blatant wagoning on Furcolow he did earlier.

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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:36 pm

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Furc -- voting yourself, then claiming that it was a clever tactic or some sort, is prototypical scummy VI behavior.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:59 pm

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The activity due to battery-powered deadlines is too much for me. 1 page/day- I can deal with that. Any more and ADD kicks in and I have problems. Not to mention that I'm busy with other stuff starting this week.

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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:43 pm

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He claimed VT, at L-6?

What a fail.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:57 pm

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read on furcolow < clear for me right now
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:28 pm

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Vote Count IV
~ Into madness
Friend (L-5) ~ Socrates, Plum, Iecerint, Fate

animorpherv1 (L-6) ~ Wraith, mothrax, vezokpiraka
Furcolow (L-6) ~ animorpherv1, Sebguer,
Furcolow,
pacman
Beefster (L-8) ~ Locke Lamora
mothrax (L-8) ~ Friend
Locke Lamora (L-8) ~ Beefster
Iecerint (L-8) ~ SocioPath
vezokpiraka (L-8) ~ AGar
Sebguer (L-8) ~ Furcolow
Fate (L-9) ~
Furcolow


Not Voting:
zwetschenwasser,
pacman, Furcolow


-I am currently confirming whether Beefster needs a replacement. Please hold...

--With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch.
---Vote counts come once a day unless I catch the topic blazing forward...


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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:47 pm

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This game's got a good town.

Curious as to why AGar's and Socio aren't voting Friend.

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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:51 pm

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Curious as to why there's a Friend wagon in the first place. What exactly has he done that is scummy?
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