Mini #1022- PokeUPick(Game Over)

[gandalf5166]

Okay, the reason I claimed without any in-game stimulation was because the argument was with myself, not with you guys. And the no-vanilla thing was just a hunch based on all the soft-claims, and the fact that I have NEVER played a uPick with vanillas. And...... the case again. I'll probably be able to rebut it tomorrow, my brother's been in town this last week, so I was hanging out with him instead of playing mafia. :/

[NicolBolas]

How many times have somebody promised something later and never actually gave it?

And- You have ignored the accusations leveled at you lately, except for mine. WHY?

[Xite91]

Ok. Here I am presented with a choice. On one hand is Shotty and on the other is Gandalf.

Gandalf has promised to rebut a strong case on him, something that never materialized. I look at Gandalf's posts and it really looks to me as though he is really jumping on Shotty and ignoring everything else directed at him. I am choosing to read this as Gandalf's efforts to deflect something from him to Shotty.

Shotty has claimed a role that would be harmful to the town if Shotty was town. What I mean is that if Shotty was town and he used the action tonight, this would make everything bad for town, because the town would be incapacitated tonight. BUT, if he was scum, It could potentially help us. Think about it- a lighting rod that redirects everything to him would also make him eat the scum kill.

I'm unsure which one i want to lynch.

GANDALF- REBUT THE CASE, then i may be willing to lynch shotty before you.

vote stays.

Here's the thing, based on a post from shotty, I can see him being a scumteam WITH gandalf, but eh, that's my gut opinion.
If he's not scum, then I'm not sure Gandalf is either

[NicolBolas]

Which post?

[Xite91]

read 314-319

[NicolBolas]

Elaborate. I can see them being scum together, or gandalf being scum. Shotty is less likely to be scum, IMO.


ALSO- I realized this: a roleblocker would help the scumteam a lot in this type of game. it seems like a useful scum role. hmm.

[Robocopter87]

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Vezokpiraka [0]
jimfinn [0]
NicolBolas [0]
Espeonage [2] gandalf5166, drmyshottyizsik
gandalf5166 [3] Espeonage, nicolbolas, Jarti

drmyshottyizsik [6] Xite91, jimfinn, bv310, gandalf5166, vezokpiraka, switz

Prox [0]
bv310 [1] Prox
Jarti [0]
Xite91 [0]
Switz [0]
mikeburnfire [0]

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Mikeburnfire

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Amount to Lynch

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With 12 Alive it is 7 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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Midnight of September 10^th EST

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[gandalf5166]

Yes, but it could also be a weak town role in a no-vanilla game. I have to be careful with my ability, or I could hit pro-town roles. And I know that I promised it, like, a week ago, but honestly, I place family over this. If you've got a problem with that, go ahead and lynch me.

[Xite91]

Elaborate. I can see them being scum together, or gandalf being scum. Shotty is less likely to be scum, IMO.


ALSO- I realized this: a roleblocker would help the scumteam a lot in this type of game. it seems like a useful scum role. hmm.

elaborate "this type of game"
Also, just the way he came to gandalf's rescue and posted his links AFTER I told him no, I wanted gandalf to do it, which was obviously for a reason

[Espeonage]

Just gonna say willing to hammer.

[NicolBolas]

Gandalf-I dont have a problem with your family.

I'll be looking forward to your post tomorrow.

xite- a upick game, which could be a novanilla game.

Ah. I see. HMM. So you're making the argument that has to be town/town or scum/scum?

Espeonage-

WHY?

and allow gandalf to post his anticase please. I want to see it.
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[Xite91]

xite- a upick game, which could be a novanilla game.

Ah. I see. HMM. So you're making the argument that has to be town/town or scum/scum?

Not necessarily, but definitely plausible

Well, kind of, but it's because I don't much suspect Gandalf, and didn't before shotty posted that

[NicolBolas]

Hmm. Thinking.

What does Espeonage have to say?

I really want to hear from Gandalf, though.

[drmyshottyizsik]

so im L-1 and you want Gandalf to deffend himself? WTF!?

[NicolBolas]

My suspicions is on Gandalf. If he manages to convince me to move away from him, I'll go after you next. Have patience.

By the way, you could try convincing people why being lighting rod isnt an antitown role.

[Xite91]

My suspicions is on Gandalf. If he manages to convince me to move away from him, I'll go after you next. Have patience.

By the way, you could try convincing people why being lighting rod isnt an antitown role.

the role could be either, but it's not the role I'm so much worried about, its the actions

[NicolBolas]

Then tell him to never use it. If he lies, he dies. if he doesnt, he'll live. hmm?

[Xite91]

Then tell him to never use it. If he lies, he dies. if he doesnt, he'll live. hmm?

I meant it's his actions that make him scum, not his role

[NicolBolas]

*DUH*

sorry for the dumbness.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I would only use it if our cop was dead or in some situation like that

[NicolBolas]

Waffle much?

Unvote, Vote: DMSIS

I'm still very much suspicious of Prox, but DMSIS backing off instantly when Jim called him out is scummier than all hell.

What was the basis of your suspicions on Prox in the first place? I want to know.

[Switz]

I would only use it if our cop was dead or in some situation like that

You said earlier you would use it toNight to prove yourself, did you not?

And if Shotty is scum, I agree it's very likely Gandalf and he are scumbuddies. But if he's town I don't think that would clear Gandalf by any stretch of the imagination.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok either way gandalf is scum why dont you vote him?

[Switz]

I explained my reasoning in my last post, I'm not going to do so again. But, basically, voting you has protown benefits regardless of whether or not you're scum. Voting Gandalf does not.

[vezokpiraka]

Shotty is scum. He probably has a one shot mass-roleblock or something. Probably one-shot.
We lynch him today and see what happens tomorrow.