Scummies Invitational (OVER!!!)

[q21]

tajo is a jailkeeper.

Huh?

No, he's a watcher or tracker.

But then why was there no scum kill night 1?

[Ojanen]

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Oh come ooooon tajo and Tenchi.

And it might not matter to you if Tenchi claims a PR but it matters to me. I like winning games with as few town casualties as possible. And I hate hate hate being mislynched. Put those two together and maybe you'll better see where I'm coming from. I like having all information on the table particularly in situations like this so that we could win the game with the greatest number that we possibly can instead of a bunch of useless deaths.

In this situation and in this kind of a mechanic, if you believe myko, the above amounts to precious little more than vanity if you're town; well at least the part about hating to be mislynched. And grasping at straws to fulfill to your wincon if you're scum. You really can't be surprised at people finding you scummy for it. I'm not convinced you're scum but we'll see soon enough.

I'm a little bit careful (and I thought I'd lost this game already once in that dream ) so I'll wait the claims at least for the account of the no kill on N1. Not forever though.

*twiddle*

[Mr. Flay]

Votecount

Tenchi - 3 (Hoopla, mykonian, q21)

Not voting: Everyone else

9 alive, 5 to lynch. Deadline: September 4th, 9pm CDT

[Kmd4390]

what are you, kmd?

Still vanilla.

But then why was there no scum kill night 1?

Didn't submit in time?

[Ojanen]

Screw this.
The only distant possibility for us to not win this by lynching the list until the game ends is if q21 has some sort of an über immunity and is a SK. But I find that unlikely. (or some flimsy unlikelyness of 2 mafia teams, which nothing supports.)
There is no 5 man mafia team with myko and one of the confirmed. q21 killed half the scum. tajo is stalling/resisting regards to the plan. No motivation for scum-tajo to do so.

I got pretty sick today. Access from tomorrow question mark, might have to go V/LA (I sometimes need to stay in hospital for this). Putting my vote back.

vote: Tenchi

Also,

@MOD

: Tenchi will be within prod range in less than 3 hours. Please prod him if he hasn't posted or isn't lynched by then.

[Mr. Flay]

Tenchi has been prodded.

[populartajo]

Everyone but Tenchi and me have claimed?

Ok, You are all wrong. I am a roleblocker. I roleblocked Spy N1 and Ojanen N2.

I definitely dont see volkan missing a nightkill after the Empking lynch.

[Hoopla]

Hmm. So, we need to know Tenchi's role now.

[populartajo]

Hmm. So, we need to know Tenchi's role now.

yeah... and I dont like Ojanen playing the desperate card...

also, do you think scum tried to kill q21 night 1?

[populartajo]

Lol, why do you guys want to lynhc Incog. He is OBVtown

[populartajo]

Maybe we should still play this one the old way.... Im kinda paranoid about this....

[Hoopla]

Well, we had a plan. Mykonian's information say that you and q21 are town powerroles. Lynching mykonian and everyone else in the game, except you two should have been enough to win. But I'm confused as to why we can't find this missing kill.

[Hoopla]

How's this for a theory; scum no-killed on N1 in a bid to frame q21 as a liar. It was just unfortunate from a scum perspective that q21 hit one of their own, otherwise, they would have had a nice mislynch for day 2, with town thinking q21 was scum.

[Incognito]

Really bad theory.

[Hoopla]

Really bad theory.

what's yours if tenchi's role doesn't find the stopped kill?

[populartajo]

How's this for a theory; scum no-killed on N1 in a bid to frame q21 as a liar. It was just unfortunate from a scum perspective that q21 hit one of their own, otherwise, they would have had a nice mislynch for day 2, with town thinking q21 was scum.

What Incog said. Losing a partner in day 1 is not compatible with potentially weak shenanigans. Also Q21 failing a kill would not definitely mean he would be lying, specially in day 2.

[Incognito]

Hoopla, your theory only works under the assumption that scum had perfect information on N1, i.e. they knew with 100% certainty that q21 was a vig. Aside from that, even if scum DID have that information, it would be really bad play for scum to completely forgo a kill just in an effort to "frame" q21 as this shady SK character who could possibly be "mislynched" the next Day. Scum would be much more likely to just keep on killing (maybe even taking a stab at killing q21 himself!) and then worrying about a possible q21 threat at a later time.

Given the types of claims we've seen, I think we basically have the following potential things happening to the N1 kill:

1)

Scum forgot to submit a kill. (This I doubt but I think it's probably about as likely as the scenario 2 that I'll mention below). I know Patrick usually accepts NK choices via the QuickTopic, so even if the scum weren't able to PM him in time I'm pretty sure they would've had SOME kind of a choice in - vollkan-scum was fairly active here even though Empking and Slicey looked spotty.)

2)

Doctor or Jailkeeper protection. (This is pretty much why I want Tenchi to claim. With him consistently saying I'm town especially when he reached L-1 just now, I got the feeling that he might have been breadcrumbing that he protected me N1 or something along those lines. Not smart play for him to continue breadcrumbing since it would just make more sense to claim but still possible.)

3)

q21 is an SK with NK immunity. (This one I doubt the most given the reasons I've cited previously.)

[Tenchi]

got the prod. doctor. incog safe. thx for not hammering. have something tomorrow will be back friday.

[Incognito]

Why would you not just full claim when you reached L-1?

[Hoopla]

got the prod. doctor. incog safe. thx for not hammering. have something tomorrow will be back friday.

that makes me feel a little better. who else did you save? i find it odd that scum would target incog n1.

[Hoopla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KMD

Likeliest to be scum out of the pool of players without some form of confirmation (kmd, ckd, Ojanen, Hoopla).

[mykonian]

Tenchi claimed last. With information that we were looking for a doctor.

He claims only 1 nightaction, and says he had saved Incog.

This must be the easiest fakeclaim ever.


Now, who is too stupid to see that with Q21 and Tajo as last players in this game, we win?

[mykonian]

Lol, why do you guys want to lynhc Incog. He is OBVtown

spyrex was obvscum. According to you. Further, your activity suggest that you actually don't care about the game (who wouldn't post for 2 days when you are in the middle of a massclaim?).

VOTE: KMD

[Hoopla]

I'd rather just trust you and tajo, to be honest, myko. And leave you two as the last alive. For you to be fakeclaiming, you must have guessed that tajo was a town powerrole, which certainly isn't worth the risk, as surely you must have known it would have locked in your lynch at some point by confirming two townies. Surely, you'd have known this as scum, and resisted the concept of clearing two innocents, because you'd have so much more chance of winning by staying quiet.

Lets leave myko/tajo as the last two.

[curiouskarmadog]

well tonight's targets seem obvious for the "town" PRs

why have two confirmed townies in the "plan" when we could have 3?

vote kmd.