/in-vitational 7 - Save Cow's Mind! (after 1014)

[Faraday]

How can you not explain it if it makes perfect sense. I don't know if I see it as a slip, just pure being wrong.

SFG is obv town though I think, I've never seen a townier looking miller (aside from Kublai Khan ) really. I think her thought process and all that makes perfect sense as town and less sense as scum.

Uh I'll make an effort to re-read day 1, particularly reck's defense of tl at the end of the day and other stuff I guess, I'm lazy tho so it'll take a day or 2.

[xRECKONERx]

I will be posting more when I've had the chance to read some dramonic meta games and ISO'd him thoroughly in this one. This will happen, at earliest, tonight.

DON'T BOTHER, HE'S TOWN

[KittyMo]

The Reck-dram exchange is disturbing because it honestly looks like dram is using Reck.

I can go for a Neto wagon.

Ythill, I'm a bit insulted by your insinuation that as scum I would be that ridiculous.

Reck: Is dram a terrible scumhunter as town normally?

I don't really know how to respond to dram's attacks on me. They seem pretty OMGUS-fueled, or he doesn't like my playstyle for whatever reason, since he seems to have some unexplainable problem with...almost all of my posts. That, or he's scum.

[dramonic]

Well, the case you tried to push day 1 was frankly terrible; voting someone for not confirming in the middle of the night and calling it a serious vote.
The fact it was on me is fairly irrelevant.

That's one thing.
Also, I'm not using Reck, he just knows I'm town because he's good at reading me, so he accepts dealing with my read.

[KittyMo]

Well, the case you tried to push day 1 was frankly terrible; voting someone for not confirming in the middle of the night and calling it a serious vote.
The fact it was on me is fairly irrelevant.

I never claimed that it wasn't fairly terrible. It was an attempt to get the game moving instead of lulzing around being stupid or active lurking. You're also strawmanning what my accusation was, so.

[dramonic]

correct me when I say something incorrect, but you accused me of being late-confirming scum while brandishing our last game together where that did happen <<

[hasdgfas]

Day 2: Vote Count the third

DeathRowKitty(1): dramonic
xRECKONERx(1): DeathRowKitty
Cuttlefish(1): Ythill
Netopalis(1): Cuttlefish

Not Voting(5): KittyMo, Faraday, Haylen, SFG, Netopalis, xRECKONERx
10 alive, 6 to lynch

prods needed: Netopalis

[Cuttlefish]

Why isn't Neto dead yet? It should be pretty obvious that if Neto were town, he'd have about a million votes on him right now.
Why is Ythill still voting me?

[xRECKONERx]

Reck: Is dram a terrible scumhunter as town normally?

I WILL NOT BE TRICKED INTO INSULTING DRAM

But... yes... he's not terribly great at scumhunting unless you yell at him

NIK.
WE LYNCH NETO TODAY AND DRK TOMORROW
CHOOOO CHOOOO

UNVOTE; VOTE: NETO

[Ythill]

Ythill, I'm a bit insulted by your insinuation that as scum I would be that ridiculous.

If I believed that players in here were infallible, what would be the point of scumhunting? You either backed off one fake claim to make another or this is some inside reference from #mafia. Apparently your friends believe it is the latter, but (because we are not infallible) I'd like to make that determination for myself. So would one of you

please

attempt to explain the inside reference that caused you to call someone "confirmed town" without information from the mod confirming that person as town? Thanks.

Why is Ythill still voting me?

Because if KM is lying about her role, you're still scum. And if she isn't, you still

could be

scum. Once this softclaim business is cleared up, I'll probably move my vote.

I still intend to parse D1, but I'm getting caught up in all my games right now and I'm pretty busy, so it might be awhile before I get to that.

[Cuttlefish]

If I believed that players in here were infallible, what would be the point of scumhunting? You either backed off one fake claim to make another or this is some inside reference from #mafia. Apparently your friends believe it is the latter, but (because we are not infallible) I'd like to make that determination for myself. So would one of you please attempt to explain the inside reference that caused you to call someone "confirmed town" without information from the mod confirming that person as town? Thanks.

Why does it have to be an inside reference or mod-confirmed? I just thought she was stating a strong read, and using meta from #mafia to back it up.

Because if KM is lying about her role, you're still scum. And if she isn't, you still could be scum. Once this softclaim business is cleared up, I'll probably move my vote.

If you think that KittyMo is lying about her role, you should be voting for KittyMo. If you think that KittyMo is not lying about her role, you should be able to share a non-role related reason for thinking I'm scum. If you think that KittyMo is a mafia jailkeeper and that I'm her buddy, you should be voting for KittyMo.
But of course none of that matters because you should be voting for Netopalis.

[Ythill]

Deal with it. If she is lying then you're both scum and if she doesn't want my spotlight on her, she should stop throwing around the word "confirmed" and then refusing to explain it.

[Haylen]

Yeh. I agree with DRK and SFG, KittyMo's statement made sense to me aswell.

Can we just lynch Cuttlefish now? ~_~

I would like to know why I was investigated last night.

I think Reck and Dram are playing off each other. One of them, I believe, is scum. I am unsure of which.

KittyMo, what do you think of Cuttlefish?

[xRECKONERx]

Haylen, we're not playing off each other.
IT'S LOVE <3

[Ythill]

@Hayl:

I investigated you because you were on my suspect list but not at the top of it.

[Cuttlefish]

Haylen, do you want me to tell you about a secret Canadian technique that makes lynching people a whole lot easier? We're usually not supposed to share it with non-Canadians, but since we're friends and since Canada is practically Britain I don't see the harm in letting you in on this little secret.

[SFG]

So...Phayt arrived at my place midday yesterday and will be staying here for a few days. His presence is exceptionally adept at distracting me from schoolwork, mafia, the internet in general, and such. Yeah. Phayt <3

[DeathRowKitty]

Guys, I found the Internet. I'm actually going to be limited access through Sunday though. I'll check the thread occasionally and respond to anything in need of immediate attention.

[xRECKONERx]

SFG YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SCUMHUNT
JUST LYNCH NETOSCUM OR DRKSCUM

[Ythill]

Attempting to make sense of this game, but it's slow going right now. I've got all that softclaim business figured out and it's not as bad as I had thought originally. The only

actual

confirmed town is Haylen. I'm going to try to read some more tonight...

[Cuttlefish]

It's not as bad as you thought because Haylen is the only confirmed town? >_>
Also you should stop thinking so much and just go with the flow. In case you can't sense the flow of the game, I can tell you that right now the flow is whispering softly in your ear, "vote: netopalis."

[Ythill]

I hear what the flow is saying, Nik, but I'm not that kind of player. And it's not as bad as I thought because we only have four softclaims, not five, and one of them is claiming miller.

[Cuttlefish]

I hear what the flow is saying, Nik, but I'm not that kind of player.

*Sigh* I know, I know.
I guess it's a good thing to have a few different playstyles involved in a game, even if it does make the game run more slowly.

[Ythill]

Not much info in these with only town flips, but it's what we have to work with so... assuming Haylen is not a GF...

dramonic(4):

TheLonging

, DeathRowKitty,

Haylen

, Netopalis

TheLonging

(4): Faraday, KittyMo,

Ythill

, Cuttlefish
Netopalis(2): xRECKONERx,

UncertainKitten

xRECKONERx(1): SFG
SFG(1): dramonic

DRK and Neto are probably not scum together, but meh. At least one of Far/KM/Cuttle is scum. Note Reck's Neto-hate.

TheLonging

(5): Faraday, KittyMo,

Ythill

, Cuttlefish,

TheLonging

Netopalis(2): xRECKONERx,

UncertainKitten

dramonic(1): Netopalis
xRECKONERx(1): SFG
SFG(1): dramonic
Cuttlefish(1):

Haylen

Not Voting(2): DeathRowKitty

The dram wagon collapsed and the votes spread out. I wouldn't expect scum to pile on TL after the self-vote, so maybe they were waiting for another wagon to form. Why no votes added to Neto?

TheLonging

(3): Faraday, KittyMo, SFG
Netopalis(3):

UncertainKitten

,

Ythill

,

TheLonging

DeathRowKitty(2): xRECKONERx, dramonic
dramonic(1): Netopalis
Cuttlefish(1):

Haylen

Haylen

(1): Cuttlefish

Not Voting(1): DeathRowKitty

This is a pretty little VC. Neto hangs at three townie votes for awhile. Why doesn't Reck join the party? Why doesn't Cuttle like the top three suspects?

TheLonging

(4): Faraday, KittyMo, SFG,

Ythill

Netopalis(3):

UncertainKitten

,

TheLonging

, Cuttlefish
DeathRowKitty(2): xRECKONERx, dramonic
dramonic(1): Netopalis
Cuttlefish(1):

Haylen

Not Voting(1): DeathRowKitty

I jump off Neto, Cuttle jumps on. Reck's sitting there watching people cycle around his #2 and crying out against the TL lynch, why is he still parked on DRK? My guess is that one of Reck/dram must be scum at this point.

TheLonging

(7): Faraday, KittyMo, SFG,

UncertainKitten

, DeathRowKitty,

Ythill

, Cuttlefish
DeathRowKitty(4): xRECKONERx, dramonic, Netopalis,

Haylen

Netopalis(1):

TheLonging

DRK is a very safe place for Neto to park. With TL alone on Neto, scum must have bunched up on one of the other wagons. Note that DRK is the only new face on TL and I don't see scum switching over so late.

Based on this, Neto is the most likley scum. His buddies are one of Reck/dram

or

one of Reck/Cuttle plus a sleeper... maybe Faraday? I seriously doubt a Reck/dram scumteam, and mildly doubt a Reck/Cuttle scumteam. KM cannot be scum unless Cuttle is mafia with her. Obviously I have more reading to do before I make any final decisions but I might as well...

UNVOTE: Cuttle
VOTE: xRECKONERx

[dramonic]

KM cannot be scum unless Cuttle is mafia with her.

Then vig them both, because KM is not town.