NY 118 - BBM's Large Normal Mafia (Game!)

[Xite91]

oops my bad good sir, i'll try and not do that anymore.

Can I just call you X?

Haha, go for it. Hey, who are you voting by the way? I'm making dinner and don't have enough time to go back and check ATM.

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 1.9

Frank [11] (Xite, Prozac, danakillsu, UA, singersigner, mysterio, hiphop, robbnva, wraith, Bunnylover, Benmage)

hiphop [2] (Shanba, nhammen)
Wraith [2] (ConfidAnon)
danakillsu [1] (JDodge)
Prozac [1] (WickedestJr)
Singersigner [1] (flinter)
Rob [1] (Orochi)
Bunnylover [1] (Frank)

Not Voting [6] (seth, DavidParker, Sebguer, Kise, Reck)

24 alive, 13 to lynch, 12 to no lynch.

[Robbnva]

my vote is on frank right now, he is by far the safest vote after outing a PR, since he is only a townie with no powers.

[Flameaxe]

Still trying to replace Seth. JDodge has requested replacement.

[Xite91]

my vote is on frank right now, he is by far the safest vote after outing a PR, since he is only a townie with no powers.

how are you sure he's a townie? And if he is, why are you voting for him?

[Robbnva]

my vote is on frank right now, he is by far the safest vote after outing a PR, since he is only a townie with no powers.

how are you sure he's a townie? And if he is, why are you voting for him?

because I was always taught that once you out a power role on day 1, you try and get out with as little damage as possible.
Also it is so easy for mafia to claim vanilla townie, that on day one you lynch the nilla townie no question.

this will give us plenty of information to use in the next day phase.

Not sure if any of you guys know who Papa Zito is, but he was one of the ones who taught me this strategy and he is a pretty decent mafia player, so i trust what i know and I trust the people who taught me.

Would I rather nail scum, of course but at what cost? run somebody else up to be lynched and pray he is not the doctor? no thanks.

[Robbnva]

and I am not sure he is a townie, I am not sure any of you guys are townies but that is how you play the game.

tbh, I am not even sure if the cop is actually a cop, but you NEVER lynch a cop claim on day 1.

[danakillsu]

I love the direction this thread has been moving in as far as votes and reasoning, but I would request that everyone step back a moment before posting, please. Things have been getting a bit out of hand here recently. Now back to your regularly scheduled lynching.

[xRECKONERx]

Alright, the mod politely asked me to participate instead of replacing out, so I'll try.
Catchup post...soonish.

[Xite91]

Not sure if any of you guys know who Papa Zito is, but he was one of the ones who taught me this strategy and he is a pretty decent mafia player, so i trust what i know and I trust the people who taught me.

Would I rather nail scum, of course but at what cost? run somebody else up to be lynched and pray he is not the doctor? no thanks.

Yes, I know who he is, I played (for a little bit) a game with him in it, I will give him that he seems to know what he's doing, but I can't really say much more than that.

Also

and I am not sure he is a townie, I am not sure any of you guys are townies but that is how you play the game.

tbh, I am not even sure if the cop is actually a cop, but you NEVER lynch a cop claim on day 1.

Uhm.....

my vote is on frank right now, he is by far the safest vote after outing a PR,

since he is only a townie with no powers

.

Seems to me you're pretty sure he's a townie

[hiphop]

Wait a sec. Are you admitting that your play hasn't improved? If so, why haven't you been trying?

gradually. Do you think it has?

2: I would prefer Robb, or possibly Hiphop as a lynch over Frank. Most of that stems from Post #304 Where Robb responds to Wraith’s ISO post on hiphop. It seems like an attempt to discredit Wraith’s read without actually trying to discredit it, what with the whole “yeah, I kinda agree, but coming from you it all looks very OMGUS, and I don‘t really agree with you because he‘s not under the radar” deal. He flips from agreeing with Wraith here, to downplaying the value of his read, to disagreeing with his conclusion in the same three line post. It feels off, and somewhat awkward, and I’m getting a feeling that if Robb flipped scum Hiphop might too.

So let me get this straight. You would possibly want to lynch me on the fact that someone else that is not proven scum tried to defend me. Now if you said after robb flips scum then hiphop is next is fine with me. But you came right out and said you would possibly want to lynch hiphop over frank, for something someone else did. What? How does that make sense? Your read on me is totally based off what robb flips, yet you come in with the bogus line that you may want to lynch me first. Truly you are stretching. Go find a better case.

[Robbnva]

@X - that was just worded wrong, I meant he has claimed nilla. I think he is scum or a really horrible mafia player

[Shanba]

I think he is scum or a really horrible mafia player

I think whether he's scum or town he'll be disappointed with his play, as in this game it has been terrible. But the whole wagon reads to me like a pretty typical day 1 townie lynch. If he goes I won't complain, but he's not the scummiest player in the imho.

[Benmage]

@Mod

aren't I voting Frank?

Yes. Fixed it in the votecount.

[Xite91]

@X - that was just worded wrong, I meant he has claimed nilla. I think he is scum or a really horrible mafia player

fair enough

[Benmage]

Well I'm muscling through a couple more pages. Frank looks even worse. Believes there are more than 1 sane cop. Is there ever more than 1 sane cop? Talks about scum having daytalk as reasoning....Its so not the norm, this can't be a good point. Goes from declaring he's not moving his vote to openly omgus'ing Poro, then switches to Xite. Crap logic/defense.

How he's still alive is beyond me.

[danakillsu]

Well, the alive part looks like it's about to change, thankfully. L-2.

[Wickedestjr]

My town read of Wraith revolves around gut mostly.

Anyways, at this point I'm just waiting for the ====[ ]

Without some slots not even posting anything?

So let me get this straight. You would possibly want to lynch me on the fact that someone else that is not proven scum tried to defend me. Now if you said after robb flips scum then hiphop is next is fine with me. But you came right out and said you would possibly want to lynch hiphop over frank, for something someone else did. What? How does that make sense? Your read on me is totally based off what robb flips, yet you come in with the bogus line that you may want to lynch me first. Truly you are stretching. Go find a better case.

You seem to be forgetting that Orochi doesn't have his vote on you.

I think that Furcolow either needs to stop posting or post something other than OMGUS votes and whining about the bandwagon being on himself. Ya know, maybe do some scumhunting? If you're town, you have good reason to scumhunt even if you think you're about to get lynched. Your posts the last dozen pages or so have been useless and are making this thread longer than it needs to be.

[danakillsu]

What's up with Sebguer? Hasn't posted in almost four DAYS! That kind of player is what's killing this game.

[Porochaz]

24 pages, already. Don't think there is much killing this game.

[danakillsu]

Tons of material =/= to a productive game for town. We need every player slot voting to get the lynch we need.

[Xite91]

Not every one, just the majority, which we could have if we got some cooperation

[Flameaxe]

Prodding Sebguer. If you have any other prod requests, speak now. (Seth and JDodge are being replaced, so don't ask for them to be prodded.)

[DavidParker]

Anyways, thread read, a few people stand out, I'm basically just too lazy to comment and analyze everything/everyone.. But I'm going to go ahead and:

Vote: danakillsu

Does his cop "breadcrumb" when the bandwagon is already going on him. So that can't even be used in his defence to back his claim. I'm one of those people who don't think just because someone has claimed cop they can get off without being lynched. That's just silly. Dana still strikes me as very scummy, and the cop claim seems desperate, and the breadcrumbs use to back it up, when the breadcrumbing began when he was under a lot of pressure. I don't like it and think he is scum. We have had a VT and cop claim today, there's nothing wrong with lynching a claimed cop anyways. If scum have a roleblocker, they are just gonna roleblock the cop continuously, and we will remain suspicious of the cop and eventually lynch him probably, if cop don't they will probably kill him, or if they don't we will lynch him but after getting some useful results. However, if he is scum, he has the potential to greatly mislead town, more than any claimed VT, so i'm all for lynching our claimed cop.

[Flameaxe]

Prodding Sebguer. If you have any other prod requests, speak now. (Seth and JDodge are being replaced, so don't ask for them to be prodded.)

I also prodded Kise.

Edit: And singersigner.