NY 118 - BBM's Large Normal Mafia (Game!)

[danakillsu]

@ Dave
Not a great entrance. We need more than your reasons that you want to lynch a claimed cop. We need some commentary on other players. It looks to me like you're trying to put your vote somewhere that people won't call you scummy for it, but you don't have to take a stand on the current bandwagons.

[DavidParker]

Meh I don't really have a stand on the Frank-wagon, I haven't been here when it grew so i wasn't really caught up in the whole bandwagoning "whoop whoop". I can understand why he has the votes he has but don't feel that I should be voting for him right now, although I'm not opposed to his lynch or other people voting for him. I'm just happier with your lynch right now.

[Porochaz]

Seriously? You understand why Frank has as many votes as he does? Somehow I doubt that. Let me make this clear. Whether he is lying or not - LYNCHING-THE-CLAIMED-COP-IS-NOT-A-GOOD-IDEA-DAY-1!!!

[Porochaz]

Oh and my reason for voting frank in case your not clear was his stance on the claimed cop which incidentally is almost the same as yours.

fos DavidParker

[Porochaz]

Anyways, thread read, a few people stand out, I'm basically just too lazy to comment and analyze everything/everyone.. But I'm going to go ahead and:

Vote: danakillsu

Does his cop "breadcrumb" when the bandwagon is already going on him. So that can't even be used in his defence to back his claim. I'm one of those people who don't think just because someone has claimed cop they can get off without being lynched. That's just silly. Dana still strikes me as very scummy, and the cop claim seems desperate, and the breadcrumbs use to back it up, when the breadcrumbing began when he was under a lot of pressure. I don't like it and think he is scum. We have had a VT and cop claim today,

there's nothing wrong with lynching a claimed cop anyways. If scum have a roleblocker, they are just gonna roleblock the cop continuously, and we will remain suspicious of the cop and eventually lynch him probably, if cop don't they will probably kill him, or if they don't we will lynch him but after getting some useful results. However, if he is scum, he has the potential to greatly mislead town, more than any claimed VT, so i'm all for lynching our claimed cop.

WIFOMilicous. You are going into ifs and buts but in the end its still wrong for fairly obvious reasons

[singersigner]

I love the direction this thread has been moving in as far as votes and reasoning

I'm assuming that's because all the heat's been taken off you for at least a little while?

In any case, let me just put this out there...DavidParker's a bad player. I don't think he's been productive ONCE in the last couple games I've seen him play in. He false claimed at least twice (in both of them, not sure how many other games he's played). But he was a VT in both of them. And now he's willing to lynch a claimed cop on D1...ugh, DP, just ugh...

I'd vote/FoS him...but I don't think his stupidity right now is worth it. We'll see what happens later...

[DavidParker]

Fine, since you guys don't seem to have a problem with outing PR's and letting them live. The reason I want him lynched despite his claim is because my role is that of Cop and I don't believe his.

[DavidParker]

So yeah,

Claim: Cop

Dana is lying scum, I'm guessing. Doubt we have 2 cops. Hence, my vote on Dana stays.

[Robbnva]

The part I find funny is RIGHT after singer says David fake claims a lot, David claims cop

David can be telling the truth but the timing makes me rofl

[Mysterio]

Yeah, singer called that one perfectly. I still think we should lynch Frank, and just let the night actions give us info about these cop claims. Depending on what happens, we can pressure dana or Parker D2.

[UltimaAvalon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

@Mysterio: Or both

[danakillsu]

What???
In a game this large, two people being told by the mod that they are cops is by no means impossible. One of us could be insane, but that's not even NECESSARILY true. Horrible idea to claim at this juncture, just horrible. Especially since it definitely won't make anyone pro-town try to lynch me. And the most significant thing is that you only tell your "true" reasons for voting me when pressured, which does not add credibility to your claim.

[Kise]

Insane cops in a normal? It may be a common role [elsewhere] but I think the "older" mafiascummers used to say sanity variants weren't considered normal. I myself could care less, but, I'm thinking, if the mod is one of these "old timers" then I doubt he'd make insane cops. If anything, I think it says more that DP is town for what he did.

I still need to catch up - only saw this page and gathered what's gone down.

[danakillsu]

I'm pretty sure, though obviously not completely, that insane cops are allowed in Large Normals.

[Wickedestjr]

Okay. DavidParker, why in the world did you claim your role? That could quite possibly be the worst possible thing you could do. Having multiple cops in a game is not unusual at all. Especially one of this size.

Here is a game with two trackers.
Here is a game that I think had two cops in it.
Here is a game with 3 cops. (This game had a sane, insane, and naive cop.)
Here is a mini game with two cops.

I need to think about this claim a little bit. I would like if DavidParker would explain himself a bit more.

[singersigner]

DAVIDPARKER, AAAHAHHHHHAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Why, DP, why? Seriously. You're willing to put yourself under suspicion on D1?? You are the worst player I've ever seen on this site. EVER. If you were smart (and your claim is in fact accurate), you'd've kept your claim to yourself, investigated dana tonight, and then see what you came up with tomorrow. That way you wouldn't have to out yourself. We have time to make a couple mistakes, but only if our PR's don't commit suicide every damn second. Now, for all we know, everything you say is a load of BULL.

Ugh...wth...

[Porochaz]

I don't believe him. However I will not be voting him for the same reason dana will not be receiving my vote.

[Xite91]

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QFT

Honestly, first off, I think we should largely ignore Parker. Second, it can be possible to have multiple cops. Third, if Parker is scum, I can see singer being scum and a possible visa versa.

What???
In a game this large, two people being told by the mod that they are cops is by no means impossible. One of us could be insane, but that's not even NECESSARILY true. Horrible idea to claim at this juncture, just horrible.

Especially since it definitely won't make anyone pro-town try to lynch me.

And the most significant thing is that you only tell your "true" reasons for voting me when pressured, which does not add credibility to your claim.

I really liked that bolded part. Tempted to lynch you because of that.

[singersigner]

Third, if Parker is scum, I can see singer being scum and a possible visa versa.

Why?

[Xite91]

@Singer - Just the way you're playing. Sounds like, no Parker! you're digging yourself a deeper whole! Shut up! (AKA coaching)
Also, the fact that you gave him that route to fake-claim, and now people are less likely to suspect him for it

[Porochaz]

xite I liked your posts up till this page, seems like your reaching

[Xite91]

xite I liked your posts up till this page, seems like your reaching

Sorry, just woke up.
No but seriously, I'm just trying to find connections for later in the game. TBQH I doubt that Parker is scum, so those are just empty words for now, but if he does turn up scum at any time, I would say that singer was also scum (which isn't too hard to believe in the first place anyways)

[singersigner]

lol. You want the links to where he fake-claimed? Or maybe he would kindly oblige to post them himself. And believe me, DP is beyond coaching.

Why are people less likely to suspect DP for fake-claiming? It's very clear in his meta that it's something he does, regardless of his alignment. I don't think the fact that he fake-claims makes him any less suspicious of being scum...it's just that much more frustrating to deal with him clouding our judgment in case he's town. I'm not opposed to a policy lynch of DP if he doesn't start playing more pro-town/contributing.

[Xite91]

Why are people less likely to suspect DP for fake-claiming? It's very clear in his meta that it's something he does,

regardless of his alignment.

I don't think the fact that he fake-claims makes him any less suspicious of being scum...it's just that much more frustrating to deal with him clouding our judgment in case he's town. I'm not opposed to a policy lynch of DP if he doesn't start playing more pro-town/contributing.

In any case, let me just put this out there...DavidParker's a bad player. I don't think he's been productive ONCE in the last couple games I've seen him play in. He false claimed at least twice (in both of them, not sure how many other games he's played).

But he was a VT in both of them.

And now he's willing to lynch a claimed cop on D1...ugh, DP, just ugh...

[singersigner]

Uh, huh...and your point is...?

MY point is, he's not good for the town. I want to see where this Frank lynch leads us, and then see if DP can answer some questions for us tomorrow (assuming he makes it through the night). Otherwise, I don't want to waste my time, or the time of anyone else, playing with him if he can't get his act together for the third time in a row (from what I've seen)...man, he's just a huge WIFOM in itself...