Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[Mafuyu]

True.

In positive news, Mafuyu can fashion a one-shot vig tonight and give it to someone (or to Mafuyu), to be used Night 5. Thoughts?

[SharkFinn]

Redirected Mafuyu to Empking...

VOTE: Mafuyu

No scum wants to kill Empking.

[LimMePls]

No scum wants to kill Empking.

That is tough to argue with.

Vote: Mafuyu

[Mafuyu]

Redirected Mafuyu to Empking...

VOTE: Mafuyu

No scum wants to kill Empking.

That doesn't make sense. Mafuyu's Walkie Talkie completely failed. If Mafuyu was redirected to Emp, barring an RB Mafuyu would have established contact there.

The last line is also confusing. Clarify?

[ReaperCharlie]

Very interesting. I might as well claim. I am Leonardo da Vinci, a Time Traveler. Also a roleblocker.

Night 1 I blocked Karma
Night 2 I forgot to submit an action
Night 3 I blocked you, LMP

But the way you just posted makes me think you're super town (ugh, shoulda realized last night), so... yeah.

Discuss.

Also,

vote: Mafuyu

[SharkFinn]

Also. Opinions on Empking? Am I crazy here thinking he's scum or is his lack of any quality post and lurking harder than RC just irritating?

he does this in every game (town or scum) and in every game he gets shit for it. I fucking dont have a clue why he even plays mafia and I dont typically join games he is in.....so ask me how I ended up in two (current) with him.... answer..Idk

I have lynched him as town for it before. I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but I think there are better lynch choices.

I might actually re-read this topic, post some useful information, and become an actual player instead of just an active lurker.

Maybe.

Unvote

Vote: Mafayu

Thal last discussion with SF reaks of scum.

It's exactly what would have been posted in one post of indignance, spread out across multiple posts. You must really be desperate, to latch on to something as stupid as a one-liner banter and call that a discussion.

This is why I wanted Empking to die by scum hands.

[SharkFinn]

1. Mafuyu-SCUMZOR
4. ReaperCharlie-Prob town
8. SharkFinn-Town
9. KageLord-null
14. LynchMePls-prob town
16. diginova-null
18. crypto-null/probtown

Is it me, or do you get the feeling that we better not mislynch here?

[SharkFinn]

UNVOTE:

Too soon imo. let everyone else speak

[SharkFinn]

Still voting Mafuyu in the end, btw. She's 100% scum imo

[LimMePls]

1. Mafuyu-SCUMZOR
4. ReaperCharlie-Prob town
8. SharkFinn-Town
9. KageLord-null
14. LynchMePls-prob town
16. diginova-null
18. crypto-null/probtown

Is it me, or do you get the feeling that we better not mislynch here?

With 2 kills happening a night you are right, we can't afford a mislynch. That said, since you tracked Mafuyu to Empking, plus Mafuyu claimed to target RC and get "no result" (which makes no sense given that I was RB'ed by RC) its pretty clear that Mafuyu is scum. If Mafuyu really received "no result" the only logical conclusion would be a mass roleblock, but in that case if Mafuyu was told "no result" then others would have received "no result".

@SF and RC: Did you receive a message indicating that your action failed?

If neither of you did, then we would assume that Mafuyu wouldn't have received a message like that either. Since she is claiming she did (after I claimed no result by the way) this will be an easy lynch today. The fact that Mafuyu was willing to pile onto RC wagon without considering other possibilities is only more damning evidence.

[SharkFinn]

She was going to be lynched yesterday, but I pushed Robbnva into a modkill >_< sorry again for that.

[Mafuyu]

Hm. So that's why the Walkie-Talkie didn't work. Sharkfinn directed Mafuyu to someone that died the same night, and as the Walkie-Talkie's talk starts D4 and lasts through the Night Phase, Mafuyu's ability failed.

If you guys hadn't noticed, scum wants claimed vig-maker dead.
Would you like a full claim?

[LimMePls]

So what you want us to believe is that you claimed a no result on RC after I did because you actually targeted RC. However you got redirected to Empking, and since Empking is dead, that is why you got the no result. It still doesn't explain why on earth the scum would kill Empking in the first place when there is a redirector and a cop around. The only logical explanation is that you got redirected to the NK because you caused the NK.

I also find the "vig making" strange. If you have to make it tonight, and then give it to someone for N5, at that point we'll likely be in LYLO where a vig is too dangerous. Why wouldn't you have made a vig earlier in the game where a vig is still helpful? At this point we can't afford a mislynch or a misvig.

While we're at it, who asks "Would you like a full claim"? Trying to buy some time to get your fake claim in order? You've already claimed enough, why wouldn't you just go ahead and claim?

Keep posting Mafuyu, you are making this easier by the word.

[ReaperCharlie]

Would you like a full claim?

No sh1t.

(excuse my language)

[Mafuyu]

Michael Jennings, Paycheck.
Non Time-Traveler

As explained before, Item JOAT. Flavor-wise, Mafuyu foresaw a scum victory, and thus prepared an envelope filled with random trinkets to turn the tide.

One-shot Roleblock
One-shot Motivate
One-shot Kill
One-shot Networker

[ReaperCharlie]

It's pretty obvious that shenanigans went on last night, and now we should all be on a crusade to find out the truth of what actually went down.

Two NK's means two scumgroups (which means town has likely already lost, unless major crosskillage happens) or that there's an SK, which means town only has a slim chance of winning (again, only if major crosskillage happens). Unless we have an unclaimed vig lying around somewhere, which is also possible.

What we know:

-Empking and CKD died last night (duh, modconfirmed)
-I am a blocker and blocked LMP, causing him (cop) to receive a non-result.

(We know this because LMP volunteered it before anyone else volunteered anything else. It makes sense with what I know. And I know that I blocked him because, well, I am the one who did it.)

-Sharkfinn claims to have redirected Mafuyu to Empking (possibly lying)
-Mafuyu claims to have targeted me with "walkie talkie" (which is a neighborizing thing?) but gotten 'no-result' (possibly lying)
-Robbnva was modkilled yesterday because of a mod error and him being a VI and quoting his role PM.... LOOOOL
- anything else i missed?

Also, whoever believes that mumbo jumbo about me being a godfather because people got 'no result', don't. I'm not a godfather and even if I was, I'd still be neighborizable, and LMP would have gotten a 'town' result. So it makes absolutely no sense to suggest that, and if you believe it, you're dumb. AND stupid.

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Next point of order: Alliance time. Voting block.

Me, LMP, Sharkfinn, and crypto.

All voting together, all the time, no matter what.

You three down?

[ReaperCharlie]

Michael Jennings, Paycheck.
Non Time-Traveler

As explained before, Item JOAT. Flavor-wise, Mafuyu foresaw a scum victory, and thus prepared an envelope filled with random trinkets to turn the tide.

One-shot Roleblock
One-shot Motivate
One-shot Kill
One-shot Networker

Who were your targets for each night so far?

[LimMePls]

@Mafuyu: Explain why you didn't use the 1-shot kill before now. There have been plenty of good vig targets this game, what made you wait? That makes no sense.

It's pretty obvious that shenanigans went on last night, and now we should all be on a crusade to find out the truth of what actually went down.

Two NK's means two scumgroups (which means town has likely already lost, unless major crosskillage happens) or that there's an SK, which means town only has a slim chance of winning (again, only if major crosskillage happens). Unless we have an unclaimed vig lying around somewhere, which is also possible.

What we know:
-Empking and CKD died last night (duh, modconfirmed)
-I am a blocker and blocked LMP, causing him (cop) to receive a non-result. (We know this because LMP volunteered it before anyone else volunteered anything else. It makes sense with what I know. And I know that I blocked him because, well, I am the one who did it.)
-Sharkfinn claims to have redirected Mafuyu to Empking (possibly lying)
-Mafuyu claims to have targeted me with "walkie talkie" (which is a neighborizing thing?) but gotten 'no-result' (possibly lying)
-Robbnva was modkilled yesterday because of a mod error and him being a VI and quoting his role PM.... LOOOOL
- anything else i missed?

Also, whoever believes that mumbo jumbo about me being a godfather because people got 'no result', don't. I'm not a godfather and even if I was, I'd still be neighborizable, and LMP would have gotten a 'town' result. So it makes absolutely no sense to suggest that, and if you believe it, you're dumb. AND stupid.

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Next point of order: Alliance time. Voting block.

Me, LMP, Sharkfinn, and crypto.

All voting together, all the time, no matter what.

You three down?

I'm mostly onboard. The only question I have is why you include SharkFinn if you believe he might be lying.

Given that SF claimed to redirect me to Robbnva, and I got a town result, and Robbnva was indeed town, I'm inclined to believe SF town. If it was a gambit, it could have backfired if Robbnva had turned up to actually be scum (on another team from SF). I've thought IDI/crypto pretty obv-town.

[Mafuyu]

@Reaper: Cut down your alliance size. 7 person = That's excessively large and bulky. Cutting down to 3 might provide more information.

As explained above, Mafuyu has to distribute an item before it can actually be used (hence, a two-night process of 1. Getting/Giving it, and 2. Having it used).

Night 2 was used to make the walkie-talkie, which Mafuyu gave to herself. Night 3 was attempting to rendevous with you, which ended up not happening. Flavor-wise, it wasn't working and the batteries died from trying to contact the other side all night. It was Mafuyu's plan to claim Survivor in an attempt to fish information out of one of the other active lurkers (as you were having the baby right around that time), and then roll with the information.

As to Night 1, the existance of both you as RB and Sharkfinn as Redirector makes claiming it...not advantageous. Mafuyu will state that Zang gave himself (thus, Mafuyu) an item that night, so Mafuyu DOES have something prepped. How Mafuyu plays out using that item should Mafuyu survive depends entirely on RC and SF, and their actions today.

[Mafuyu]

@LMP: To respond to your question, Mafuyu thought a Survivor Gambit would collect more information than a simple vig kill.

[Mafuyu]

And, as further clarification, 'other active lurkers' refers to both Mafuyu and RC active-lurking at the time.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm mostly onboard. The only question I have is why you include SharkFinn if you believe he might be lying.

I'm saying it's possible, I'm not saying it's probable. It's always good to separate what we KNOW from what we POSSIBLY know.

And besides... he appears genuinely sheepish about 'causing' Robbnva's modkill, even though it was Robbnva's own fault. SF seems legit to me.

[ReaperCharlie]

*skim-speculation*

Oh sh*t, Mafuyu gave himself a daykill, and he's threatening me and SF if we try to lynch him!





P.S. stop trying to talk like Zorb, or I will begin to call you Troll like I call him. That is a promise.

[Mafuyu]

*skim-speculation*

Oh sh*t, Mafuyu gave himself a daykill, and he's threatening me and SF if we try to lynch him!

No daykill.

[Mafuyu]

Putting it bluntly, Mafuyu isn't sure of who is trustworthy enough to motivate (as a cop would likely die in this two-a-day scenario, especially if claimed), who to roleblock, knowing that a roleblocker already exists and that there's still a claimed cop, and who to kill, sans SF and RC as they are a special case that needs to be handled delicately. The problem lies that RC can easily stop whatever Mafuyu has if he is scum (or just town that doesn't trust Mafuyu), and even worse, that Sharkfinn can simply have Mafuyu redirected (again).