Newbie 980 ~ Game Over

[singersigner]

Well fortunately some of us townies are willing to give (hmm, I wonder who you're referring to) a chance to defend himself. I don't want anyone to be blindsided in this game. Just keep in mind that just because I took my vote off of you for now, doesn't mean I'm not still highly suspicious of you.

[Nexus]

I'm not trying to get rid of you, I'm sure you have some kind of purpose, I'm just asking you to tone it down a little

[jmurph3]

Wow, this thread exploded with uselessness overnight.

@singersigner: I will put out all my thoughts. I feel like I've put most of them out, but I'll go through and see what I'm missing. Expect a better post later today/

[CSL]

The Gigantic 2-foot Trombone! :D Vote Count

Nikanor (1) Beefster
Beefster (1) Nikanor

Not Voting: jmurph3, Nexus, singersigner

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Deadline and Lynch info

Currently set for Thursday, August 9th, at 7:00pm EST

There are FIVE alive, so THREE votes on a player will lynch.

V/LA's and Prods

Etc.

Nikanor has received 2 Strikes. Read below.

Nikanor has received a public warning for edging against Rule 5 of During the Day. Paraphrasing doesn't work either. (Post 646)

He has also received a Minor Public Warning for excessive swearing. Rule 1 of General Rules covers that. (Posts 642 and 644)

[singersigner]

I'm sure you have some kind of purpose

QFT.

Either way, I'm ready for this game to be over with. Beefster needs to come back soon, lol.

[Beefster]

Nikanor is really confusing me. I'll be back soonish with a megapost. I've already done a voting pattern analysis, which aside from a few points that were helpful, actually disproved a (general) theory of mine.

I'll be filling out some National Honor Society paperwork and stuff. So I'll be back when I'm done with that.

[jmurph3]

Something has come up IRL and I will be

V/LA until Sunday the 29th.

Beefster, if you don't post more by then...

Noted.

[Beefster]

It's no problem, jmurph. I've got analysis.

While reading, keep in mind how lurky Earlder was and how erratic Nikanor is playing right now.

this is the voting exchange I was referring to before

• 484: Flay votes Kov for lurking
  487: Earlder follows suit but lurks, himself.
  493: singer replaces Kov
  499: Flay unvotes (singer/Kov)
  501: Flay votes Zajnet for no reason
  ???: Earlder unvotes and disappears

It looked as if Earlder was just following his scumpartner, Mr. Flay.

Not counting any random votes, grayed out names were never voted, but were fos'd. I'm only including unconfirmed players because that is all that really matters at this point, and Flay for a control, since we KNOW he's scum.

Summary of votes and foses

Subject

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Players they voted/fosed that day

Day 1

Vamparific/Mr. Flay- a2rudeboy(Vamp), Haylen (Flay)
Beefster- Vamparific/Mr.Flay, Nexus, jmurph, Haylen, Zajnet,

Kov

Earlder- Nexus, Zajnet
Kov- Nexus,

Haylen

Day 2

Mr. Flay- Kov/singer, Zajnet, Beefster, Mr. Flay
Beefster- Zajnet,

Earlder

,

Kov

, jmurph, Mr. Flay
Earlder- Zajnet, Kov
Kov/singersigner- Zajnet, Earlder

Day 3

Beefster- Nikanor
Nikanor- Beefster
singersigner- Nikanor

Notice that, as stated previously, Mr. Flay and Earlder NEVER voted for each other. Also keep in mind that Earlder's second votes changed suddenly- and under pressure. Also note that he never explicitly revisited Nexus on Day 2, before jmurph confirmed him as a VT. All he did was say that he was still suspicious of Nexus, but didn't really go anywhere with it.

I looked back over Earlder's Day 2 posts. Holy crap! I never noticed how much fence-sitting he was doing. Not to mention that, in general, he only posted 1 or 2 actual analyses. And everything else was fence-sitting and fluff. His Day 1 posts were more reminiscent of fluff tunneling.

Nikanor's current behavior is nothing short of confusing. I might have to look at meta.

Nikanor: could you please link to a completed game as scum and another as town?

On the other hand, when I was glazing over Kov, it genuinely read as townie to me, even if lurky. The way he posted didn't seem newbscum to me. Not to mention how active and helpful singer has been since she replaced in.

Conclusion: I am 95% sure that Nikanor is the other scum.

[singersigner]

Ok, going back to do my own isos/analysis/things like such as. I will post more thoughts either later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for your input Beefster. I'll take that into account when I'm looking at you two again tonight.

[Nikanor]

Beefster- Vamparific/Mr.Flay, Nexus, jmurph, Haylen, Zajnet, Kov

Beefster- Zajnet, Earlder, Kov, jmurph, Mr. Flay

If you were really concerned with the facts you wouldn't have put Vamparific/Mr. Flay down there. The only time you were 'suspicious' of that slot on day one was when you random-voted him. You weren't suspicious of him on day two either until his lynch was completely inevitable. You're only putting Flay's name down because you want to make yourself look good.

Beefster, if you want some games to pretend to read you can look at my wiki. They're all there.
Hey Beefster, would you be willing to be lynched today if it results in my lynch tomorrow?

[singersigner]

Hey Beefster, would you be willing to be lynched today if it results in my lynch tomorrow?

Are you admitting that there will be a tomorrow if Beefster is lynched?

[Nikanor]

I'm talking about a hypothetical universe in which Beefster is town. I cannot ask that question if I assume he's scum.

[singersigner]

Then I have to assume you're scum if you're seriously asking that question.

[Nikanor]

Do you remember how I said I would self-hammer if Nexus promised to vote for Beefster tomorrow? I was serious about that.
I'm asking Beefster if he's willing to do the same thing, since he is 95% sure after all.

[singersigner]

I believe you are being serious...why, I'm not sure. You can't assume anyone will follow through on a promise for anything in this game. I don't like that you said you'd self-hammer. If you read through the thread properly, you'd've noticed that Mr. Flay self-hammered as well.

[Nikanor]

YES BECAUSE SELF-HAMMERING IS SUCH A GREAT TACTIC FOR EVERY SCUM TO USE EVER.
You apparently have learned nothing in the nearly two months you've spent playing mafia on this site. Why the fuck would I self-hammer as scum? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
I'm sure you have a brain. Please use it before touching your keyboard again.

[Nexus]

Will you stop with the foul and abusive language, please. Jeez.

Look, I'm inclined to agree with you that scum would be stupid to self-hammer, BUT it also could be used as a threat "I'll self-hammer if you vote me and you'll lose a townie." So, it makes people think again.

[Nikanor]

Nexus, are you willing to promise me that you'll vote for Beefster tomorrow when I flip town today?

[Nexus]

It's highly likely that Beefster would be my next target, yes. However, I don't want to discount the possibility of singersigner being scum just yet.

That said, I don't want to vote you yet either. I want to try and gather more information either way before anyone gets lynched.

Beefster's analysis holds a lot of water, but I'm not entirely convinced that the scum would, if they can talk together, make sure they were away from each other for the whole game-it's too easy to pick up on.

[Nikanor]

I've already done a voting pattern analysis, which aside from a few points that were helpful, actually disproved a (general) theory of mine.

What was this?

[singersigner]

It's highly likely that Beefster would be my next target, yes. However, I don't want to discount the possibility of singersigner being scum just yet.

That said, I don't want to vote you yet either. I want to try and gather more information either way before anyone gets lynched.

Beefster's analysis holds a lot of water, but I'm not entirely convinced that the scum would, if they can talk together, make sure they were away from each other for the whole game-it's too easy to pick up on.

Spoken like a true townie. I mean it. All of it.

Anyway, I came down with strep throat as of yesterday, so I probably shouldn't have promised more in-depth posting by tonight, as I have been extremely tired and not focusing on much lately. I've basically been in the response phase all day, and it may take me a bit to get to the analysis phase. Hopefully this weekend will be better, and by then we'll have more from jmurph (hope you're doing alright, missy).

Nikanor, I still don't get it. How is it possible that you can be so sure I'm town without citing any examples/proof to help us know what you're thinking? Even Nexus knows that he can't entirely discount the possibility that I'm scum, and he's been the most active one here, giving us the best analysis possible. The ONLY person who can discount that possibility is the real scum (and myself, but for sake of the argument, that was obvious). Also, you're telling Beefster you're volunteering to be lynched tomorrow in the "hypothetical" situation that he will be lynched today and flips town? That is not pro-town, and certainly doesn't make sense at all. And let me say this, a townie self-voting is NEVER the right thing to do, because you prevent us from gaining any more information from your lynch...though, since Nexus and jmurph are already confirmed town, I guess I can see why that wouldn't matter at this point...but still. My GOD, you have been the most anti-town player I've seen thus far. Even Nexus, who doesn't have to fight for his credibility, is still looking at it from all angles. If I have to ask you to give in to the possibility that I'm scum, just so you starting looking at all the angles/giving us more to work with, then I will...but seriously...

[CSL]

The It's Friday! Vote Count

Beefster (1) Nikanor
Nikanor (1) Beefster

Not Voting: Nexus, jmurph3, singersigner

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Deadline and Lynch info

Currently set for Thursday, September 9th, at 7:00pm EST

There are FIVE alive, so THREE votes on a player will lynch

V/LA's and Prods

jmurph3 is away until Sunday, August 29th. She will receive a prod the morning of it, if she has not posted by then.

No one is in need of prods at this time.

Etc.

Nikanor has received a

3rd

strike on Post 665 for infracting Rule 1 under General Rules.

Think it looks better?

[Nexus]

Seems alright to me, CSL. It provides the information needed, but it's concise.

[Nikanor]

So CSL wants me to apologize for one of my posts last night.
He says that if I don't, I'll be replaced.
Honestly though, I'd rather take a modkill.
I have a good feeling this day is going to end soon. Nexus, please trust me and vote for Beefster tomorrow.

[CSL]

Talking with superior. Day continues.