Scummies Invitational (OVER!!!)

[Ojanen]

Lets leave myko/tajo as the last two.

I would be very much down for this. Anyone disagree?

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Right now I'm confused. Yes, we got an explanation for a no-kill which remains a strange mystery if Tenchi isn't real.
Why oh why did scum try to kill Incognito, who looked like a shoe-in lynch based on the QL wagon full of town?

Tenchi, please talk to me about your thought process here:

Hoopla, I don't even have my role PM.

Okay guys, I'm only about a fourth way through the game and I have to go so expect more game thoughts tomorrow. But I finally have my partial role PM...I'm sure I'll be able to claim more fully once Patrick gets back.
I'm a doctor. I protected Myk N1. I'm assuming the scum targeted Myk N1 as well.

Partial? Your role PM came in parts?
ERROR ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE

If you are a doctor you must have known right here it's a fakeclaim.
4 minutes later you post

This stops now.
We are not lynching anyone else today. Period.
The time for that was long past and the simple fact I threw down a vote because I was worried about 0 lynches sure as hell doesn't mean two.
TOMORROW, there will be a purge. A delicious one. We're not doing this again.
Take a shot if you want tonight q21 - I'm not going to cry if I die but a Kinetic town flip better be a damn bullseye on Empking.

And then two hours later...

I'll give it a shot but its a pipe dream.

Unvote, Vote: Incog

Wagon sliding much? Checking Spyrex's interactions with Incognito.

Why are you looking at SpyreX now, who has been after Slicey's throat since day 1?
If Incog is confirmed town to you, what do you mean by checking their interactions?

What part of the claim are you missing? For me, I don't believe it. I'm advocating a hammer if someone is weighing up dropping one.

Now my concern here is that two of my biggest suspects is advocating this lynch.

I find the roleclaim REALLY fishy though. Also, my issue here is that a TownDocSlicey would be pumped in the game that his save went through, and that Empking died. Also, Seraphim, you have been around for about two hours-ish and I thought were you reading. Instead, your posts are really reactive. I do not get also why your role PM will come in parts.
I think the best move here is to lynch Seraphim/Slicey, then move on the SpyreX. Spyrex has advocated 12908902180921380123 lynches that his flip would be more informative than anybody else's, not to mention he was also part of the Kinetic wagon.
After that, I wouldn't mind a Hoopla lynch. Chop Chop!
(Well Hoopla going first is ideal. I'm gonna make a case on that tomorrow or friday.)

Vote: Seraphim/Slicey

The confirmation that you don't think Hoopla/SpyreX suspects are scum with Slicey is underlined.
If you are town, you knew Slicey was scum. And if you are town you had no idea scum was going to stop the day so WHY do you state outright intention to go after them next?

This is otoh also a slightly weird thing to post if you do know the day is going to stop - that is, if scum has sent in the choice that the day will be stopped after the first lynch. Oh wait but would you know? I guess that depends on whether there is daytalk; not necessarily.

Why did you not want to claim in massclaim today?
You said you support massclaim except for the doctor.

I don't know. We wouldn't have an explanation for the no-kill but I there's some cognitive dissonance there. I wouldn't like to leave Tenchi+Incog as confirmed in a final four or something similar.

unvote

Out of the unconfirmed I'm certain that Hoopla is town. Kmd doesn't look like scum. ckd's self-vote doesn't look like scum but his dynamics with scum are bad, categorically goes after no scum, even the first fluffing that made myko go after him was on vollkan, scum categorically stay off his wagon.

For that I'll

vote: ckd

I have no idea what he's saying in the above post and why he thinks there will be a night.
Not kmd because I don't like to vote for people I think are town before it's clear a good plan is getting through (if there is scum in the confirmed I will be lynched before them).

I am

V/LA

anything between 1 to 3 days from now. Getting some treatment.

[mykonian]

for the simple reason that Tenchi's claim STINKS.

Seriously, doesn't claim on L-1, in a massclaim situation. Then, the whole town agrees that there must have been a reason that there was only 1 death N1. After all this, tenchi claims doctor with only target.

Another thing to consider is that Patrick might have used the idea that town should have 1 of each type of role.

I'm the investigative part
Q21 would be the killer
Tajo is the blocker
and who does the protecting? Hoopla

and

Tenchi?

I see no reason for another night. Just lynch the bunch and win with Tajo and Q21 (the 3rd confirmed player is not necesary, and I can't investigate anymore anyway.)

[Kmd4390]

I agree with myko that if tenchi is scum, doc is an easy fakeclaim. He needs to die at some point.

Hoopla, it wouldn't have to be a guess for myko to know power roles. He could easily be a scum rolecop which is why he eventually needs to be lynched too.

[Kmd4390]

vote tenchi

Don't let myko live to endgame

[Mr. Flay]

Votecount

Kmd4390 - 3 (Hoopla, mykonian, curiouskarmadog, )
Tenchi - 2 (q21, Kmd4390, )
curiouskarmadog - 1 (Ojanen, )

Not voting - 3 (Incognito, populartajo, Tenchi, )

9 alive, 5 to lynch. Deadline: September 4th, 9pm CDT

[mykonian]

Hoopla, it wouldn't have to be a guess for myko to know power roles. He could easily be a scum rolecop which is why he eventually needs to be lynched too.

I have the feeling hoopla already knows, and accepts that possibility. She was the one saying that my claim was weird. Which it is, as "town PR cop" would be a nice scum powerrole, while it makes little sense as a town PR (it would only be sensible to limit the information to the cop)

[curiouskarmadog]

Lets leave myko/tajo as the last two.

I would be very much down for this. Anyone disagree?

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I do, what if they are scum together....unless I am missing something tajo is only confirmed if Myko is town. Myko is sort of semi confirmed because he said that Tajo was a power role. But what if they were scum together? Or what if myko took a guess at tajo? picked up on some crumb? Doubtful, but not out of the realm of possibility.

why not have myko "confirm" one of our other claimed PRs? tonight...like hoopla or tenchi...then we keep q21, tajo, and X (hoopla or tenchi) alive as the final three...myko being the last we kill. Now, there are a couple ways this could go wrong tonight, but at the same time it any of those occured (myko is killed, one of the above is killed), it should provide the information needed to decide tomorrow, who should live to end game.

[curiouskarmadog]

also, if we are wrong about myko (being town)...leaving him to the final 2 is a bad idea....3 is a better number....what is wrong with myko confirming one more (at least attempt to tonight) to go with tajo and q21?..or if we have to have to have 2 going to the end, q21 and tajo.....but if for some reason tajo and myko are scum together...they cant go to the final 4 together. so myko should be lynched at the number 5 spot.

[mykonian]

myko is 2 shot, just like Q21. (which was why myko particulary believed Q21's claim, as it resembled his own role). So we are getting no more confirmed players, and we need at least 2 to win a game for certain.

Which is why we should lynch everybody but Tajo and Q21

TODAY

[mykonian]

nice, that list.

Seen that Hoopla is convinced we can lynch fast enough to end this game today if we have one or two confirmed players, I'll claim.

I'm a

2-shot

town powerrole cop. I can find out if someone is a town powerrole or not. This means town powerroles will be my confirmed innocents.

Tajo and Q21 are

town

powerroles

.

Seen that tajo that the flips this day made tajo somewhat an easy target for scum, I wanted to know who suspected him. Ojanen her read on Tajo was

very accurate

confirm vote imaginality

[curiouskarmadog]

ahhh.....well, you should be lynched before the 5 mark then.

[curiouskarmadog]

issues with that?

[mykonian]

if that means you will still try to get a night, yes.

[curiouskarmadog]

nope no desire to...I wanted to get to anohter night, because I forgot you claimed a 2 shot.

[populartajo]

ITT, WE GET PARANOID ABOUT EACH OTHER.

Tenchi claim sucks to the bones but it really wants to make sense after a reread. Im waiting for the answers to Ojanen to clarify this.

I say we play this the old way. The idea that Q21 is nightkill inmune is also bugging me intensevily.

[Hoopla]

I side with tajo - but we still need to plan who the last two players alive are, though. I don't think q21 should be there.

What if we lynched Tenchi? By not finishing the game, that would confirm his claim as true - meaning we can trust q21 more? Or, no?

[populartajo]

Tenchitown: game doesnt end if q21 is scum.

Tenchiscum: game doesnt end if q21 is scum.

So, no.

[Hoopla]

There's no way we're playing in a 4:1:10, though.

[Incognito]

Assuming Tenchi's telling the truth about his role, my guess is the scum targeted me on Night 1 because they incorrectly thought I was soft-claiming a power role back when I said that "sniping a PR before deadline" comment on D1. If so, I'm pretty pleased with myself at this point since that was partly the purpose of that comment.

I'll have more to say about recent stuff after I get back from a jog.

[Hoopla]

Assuming Tenchi's telling the truth about his role, my guess is the scum targeted me on Night 1 because they incorrectly thought I was soft-claiming a power role back when I said that "sniping a PR before deadline" comment on D1. If so, I'm pretty pleased with myself at this point since that was partly the purpose of that comment.

I'll have more to say about recent stuff after I get back from a jog.

Hm, I actually kind of believe this. New suggestion;

Lynch Tenchi and q21, if that doesn't end the game - it proves that they were both town, and this is exactly what happened with the N1 kill, which would make Incognito town.

We then lynch mykonian, if this doesn't end the game, he is town. Which proves tajo to be town too.

We then lynch through the list leaving Incognito and populartajo as the last two alive.

[mykonian]

NO

[mykonian]

Tenchitown: game doesnt end if q21 is scum.

Tenchiscum: game doesnt end if q21 is scum.

So, no.

What if tajo is scum?

[Hoopla]

What if tajo is scum?

You have him confirmed as a town PR, remember?

[mykonian]

which makes me wonder why tajo's only comment to this game is that he thinks Q21 is scum.

Just get my role: In case I would investigate a vanilla, or a Mafia RB, or a SK, the result would all be the same: "no town PR". My role doesn't get guilties, only innocents. There never has been a reason to give a possible SK immunity to my role (

as he couldn't be caught by it anyway, unless he claimed vig

)

Futher, any plan that leaves incog is a bad one. Just as we won't leave tenchi alive today, or KMD. Q21 has played very well apart from the wagon to his claim, just as Ojanen has been percieved as very town. Just get your list back into memory.

[curiouskarmadog]

wait a minute....I thought you confirmed tajo...I am confused.