Mini 1039 Lost: Season One (Over)

[Faraseradayaphim]

I told him to claim

his

name. Then have Dekes claim his.

[vezokpiraka]

Sorry. When day was first announced I sent the ability and checked the result when I came back.
I forgot Ethan was a bad guy. I though he was the kid with the dog. I then checked the wiki now when I had time and remembered who Ethan is.

unvote
Vote Dekes

I am sleepy Going to bed now before I say stupid stuff

[TheLonging]

Ok. So is everyone here familiar with the show Lost? or are you just in because it's a Reck game?

I've seen almost the entire series except for the last half of season 6.

I've watched seasons 1 - 3 and only watched the first couple of season 4 (back in 2008) but that's about it.

VOTE: Faraserdayphim
So is it a hydra or not?

hmm, dunno, what do you think?

Vote: vezokpiraka

Anyway, let's cut the bullshit. We're in agreement. I'm declaring a policy lynch on vezokpiraka. If you haven't played with him before, well, if you've ever played with Empking, it's something similar except even more bizarre. He likes to jump wagons, is nigh-on unreadable, and is one of the most anti-town players in the game I have ever had the (dis?)honor of playing with. Let's lynch him right here, on Day 1, where he can do the least damage.

Good luck with that, scum.

vote: HackerHuck

SEE HOW EASY ACCUSATIONS ARE TO MAKE? /proving a point

unvote

The only issue I have is that if the game is true to the show, name claiming could give away town power roles.

*COUGHRECKMODCOUGH*

I feel that if everyone name claimed only then that would make it harder for others to fake claim later. just my opinion =/

And this is bad how?

Also why can we assume that name claims will out PR's? Yeah, Jack is a really obvious one, but what the fuck else? Hurley? Serial Killer? Come on.

Also yeah this is an easy choice, and I don't mind supporting this. Dekes even ignored vezok.

vote: dekes

[chesskid3]

Ok. Doesn't really matter now anyway.

The other side of the island (Libby,Anna Lucia, etc)/Goodwin/Benjamin Linus/etc wasn't shown until season 2, right?
Because if so I'm having trouble thinking of who else would be scum, ignoring say the black smoke monster.

[Ademisk]

FaraSera, really? You advocate a policy lynch of Vezok and claim that he is a very anti-town person, and then when he starts claiming things left and right, you are the FIRST to jump on it? Notice that Vezok only got on the wagon once it was established. Wouldn't it make sense for him to start it himself if he was so sure? And I know nothing about Lost, but chesskid3's comment right after Vezok's claim shows that the role and the name may be contradictory. That, and he claims Dekes to be the scummiest character on the show Season 1, by your admission. Again, as I'm assuming Vezok's play style off of your description (for reference, I'm imagining Fate here since he sounds similar), and if all of this is to be viewed in that context, this would be totally like him to cause havoc.

You look inconsistent in your beliefs and claims, so

FoS: FaraSera

for now, perhaps a vote later.

[chesskid3]

Ademisk, it makes no sense for vezok to just declare someone Ethan, because It's incredibly likely that we're lynching Dekes today, and then if he isn't Ethan, Vezok is in some shit, which is why I believe Vezok, and I'd guess the same is true of FaraSera.

Boone backstory in a paragraph:
Boone is a rich kid with a bimbo half-sister he likes a bit too much. He goes out of his way to protect her from bad relationships, though she's just using him cuz he's kinda slow.
He finally figures it out, and then wincest happens the day before the flight. On the island she doesn't want anything to do with him really so they mostly fight, and then Boone starts helping Locke with just about everything, and then he gets owned by a falling plane.
There's also the part in the pilot episode where he is trying to do CPR on Rose I think it was and failing and then Jack rolls in and is all like gtfo fool, I got this.

Boone in a sentence: Tries to be a hero, not very good at it.

That being said, I believe Vezo.

[Faraseradayaphim]

FaraSera, really? You advocate a policy lynch of Vezok and claim that he is a very anti-town person, and then when he starts claiming things left and right, you are the FIRST to jump on it? Notice that Vezok only got on the wagon once it was established. Wouldn't it make sense for him to start it himself if he was so sure? And I know nothing about Lost, but chesskid3's comment right after Vezok's claim shows that the role and the name may be contradictory. That, and he claims Dekes to be the scummiest character on the show Season 1, by your admission. Again, as I'm assuming Vezok's play style off of your description (for reference, I'm imagining Fate here since he sounds similar), and if all of this is to be viewed in that context, this would be totally like him to cause havoc.

You look inconsistent in your beliefs and claims, so

FoS: FaraSera

for now, perhaps a vote later.

Are you even reading the game? Vezok's playstyle is very anti-town but it'd be even more anti-town to ignore this information. If he's a name cop, and he got a result of the one character in the show who is most likely to be scum, we're not just ignoring that. In fact, it looks like you're blatantly trying to chainsaw defend practically confirmed scum.

Also, lol at comparing Fate to vezok. I don't think vezok has the intelligence to knowingly cause havoc.

So, question: if you have so many problems with vezok's inconsistent play, why don't you find THEM scummy but somehow find us scummy? It's quite strange.

~Seraphim

[xRECKONERx]

Faraseradayaphim (1): HackerHuck
chesskid3 (1): jasonT1981
Ademisk (1): Dekes
Dekes (4): Faraseradayaphim, chesskid3, vezokpiraka, TheLonging

Not voting (5): dramonic, BloodCovenent, jenniwren, MagnaofIllusion, Ademisk

12 alive, 7 to lynch.

[chesskid3]

Don't put him at worse than L-2 until he logs on and claims please.

[Ademisk]

@FaraSera: I don't know Vezok's playstyle so forgive me if I assumed too much. I asked you to clarify earlier but you never did. I still don't like that you started the wagon for him, but I'm sure Dekes will help clarify things.

As for your question, I'm not sure I understand. I don't have problems with Vezok's play because I never played with him and don't know what he's like. I'm only going off what you said, which is why I questioned you and not him since you're the one who characterized him as a bad player and then seemingly changed your mind.

@chesskid3: The only reason its incredibly likely that we're lynching Dekes is because of Vezok's claim. And its true that we can confirm Vezok tomorrow depending on the lynch today, but in the process we may lose 2 townies needlessly. I still think we should at the very least wait for Dekes to explain himself before we lynch him.

And I've never heard of a name cop. Is this a common role?

[TheLonging]

Stalkers are the mafia version of name cops. They're not that common, but used on occasion in themes.

[dramonic]

im gonna wait for dekes before voting

[Faraseradayaphim]

@FaraSera: I don't know Vezok's playstyle so forgive me if I assumed too much. I asked you to clarify earlier but you never did. I still don't like that you started the wagon for him, but I'm sure Dekes will help clarify things.

Started the wagon on who? Dekes? Why. If we think he's scum why shouldn't we start a wagon on him. That's bizarre.

As for your question, I'm not sure I understand. I don't have problems with Vezok's play because I never played with him and don't know what he's like. I'm only going off what you said, which is why I questioned you and not him since you're the one who characterized him as a bad player and then seemingly changed your mind.

O really? Then:

then when he starts claiming things left and right, you are the FIRST to jump on it? Notice that Vezok only got on the wagon once it was established. Wouldn't it make sense for him to start it himself if he was so sure?

What's this all about if not casting doubt on vezo?You seem to be expressing a disbelief of what he's saying here. You'd not have had to play with him before to have problems with that, really. I still don't get why you're questioning us on that though so yeah.

And I've never heard of a name cop. Is this a common role?

It's not common, but not unheard of. I've used one in [REDACTED] (it's flipped so it's fine).

[BloodCovenent]

Ademisk is scum for attacking sera/fara and not voting dekes.

Vote: Dekes

[chesskid3]

That's L-2. Please no more votes until he has a chance to log on.

[dramonic]

Please explain to me clearly why we are even voting him?

[dramonic]

EBWOP: All I'm seeing is "his role sounds like scum, lynch him!"

[chesskid3]

That's why we're waiting for a claim.

[Dekes]

Good, RVS is already over.
But gee, vezo, you really are fucked now. I'm Claire Littleton.

Now I see two options:
a) Vezo really is a daycop getting fake results (with Boone being fail on the show, too) (more likely)
b) (I see what you did there by saying I'd probably have fake claim. Now the following seems like an OMGUS) He's not a daycop at all and in fact he himself is Ethan Rom and his fakeclaim is Boone Carlyle. And he was trying to give his story credit by his meta: "I had a day ability once and used it right away. I'm doing it again now so I must be telling the truth!)

Why do I say I think the first option is more likely though the second one would be a more sensible defense for me?
Because if he he really made up all of this then the instant I flip Claire (guaranteed), he's pretty much screwed.
Now let's make a quick Iso on vezo, shall we?

Dekes is scum. I called it here and now. I want credit for it.

This apparently happend after you got your "result" as mentioned in #76. But hey, you say you're sure I'm scum yet later on you state:

Dekes is Ethan Rom.

I forgot Ethan was a bad guy. I though he was the kid with the dog. I then checked the wiki now when I had time and remembered who Ethan is.

So how could you be sure if I was scum if you only got a name and you state later on you didn't know who Ethan was? Already caught in a lie, aren't we?

It's not like John has to be pr and Jack too and Sawyer too and all of that people. Also this is vanillaless if I remember correctly.

Huh? If the second point is true, the first point must be true as well. Contradictions, too?

Anyway, if vezo really is a daycop (albeit getting wrong results), chances are high he won't see the light of Day 2. So let's deal with the scummiest persons now.

Vote: BloodCovenent

Opportunistic scum is opportunistic. So is The Longing. Votes are interchangable. They aren't even trying to question vezo's validity or sanity. And TheLonging, I didn't ignore vezo, you can read my Iso, it's not that long.

However, if the rest of you town is willing to lynch me based on that dubious claim, let me at least give my role out there before you bring me to the noose.

[jenniwren]

Wow...I haven't been able to post because my computer is being repaired and I've only just gotten my dad away from his. This is a fun way to start the game.

I'm *almost* of two minds about the Ethan reveal--a tiny part of me wants to be a little skeptical because it's an awfully convenient reveal, but since Vezo is claiming something that is so easily proven true or false, I am MUCH more inclined to believe him to be telling the truth. It just doesn't make sense to lie about that.

Since he's at L-2 already, I'm holding my vote until we hear from Dekes. In the meantime, I do have one question for Vezo. I read the following post as meaning that you thought Ethan was the kid with the dog (Walt), and you revealed him to the town without waiting for him to claim because you thought that. You didn't vote earlier because you thought Ethan was the kid and not the villain, but then you wiki'd Ethan and found out he was the villain and that's why you voted. (Correct me if I am wrong. If I am misreading this and you meant you wiki'd him before you revealed his identity, then the following question is moot.)

Why would you reveal the kid's identity?

Sorry. When day was first announced I sent the ability and checked the result when I came back.
I forgot Ethan was a bad guy. I though he was the kid with the dog. I then checked the wiki now when I had time and remembered who Ethan is.

unvote
Vote Dekes

I am sleepy Going to bed now before I say stupid stuff

BTW:
I saw Chesskid wrote a summary of Boone's character earlier, but for those of you who haven't watched the show...Ethan can be summed up by his quote in Farasera's signature. He infiltrates the survivors, pretends to be one of them, and does some pretty bad things, like kidnap a pregnant woman and try to kill the hobbit...so you can see why so many of us who watch the show are willing to lynch him for his name alone.


Preview Edit:
Discussion time...

I can't edit more because we're about to have dinner, but I think it's interesting that Dekes claims Claire, as Claire was Ethan's primary target.

[chesskid3]

UNVOTE:
Definitely don't want to rush this. But I'm not saying I'm finished with the matter by unvoting.

[BloodCovenent]

Whatever you say dekes. I follow a claim of you being ethan which makes sense as a scum role what else was i supposed to do, ignore it? You may call me opportunistic but it was no way opportunistic. I am, believe it or not rather good at keeping track of thresholds and if someone were to come in and vote quickly I would have unvoted to let the day evolve so that you had time to claim or rebuttal. No doubt I do agree that occasionally the third or fourth vote on a player can be opportunistic. However scum-bloodcovenent would blindly jump on a wagon as the late voter with no reasoning. As you may ask what my reasoning is... well.... it's that there was a claim that your role was of an "other." And they are bad in season 1. Therefore i felt confident in you as a lynch. Note that it doesn't make sense for Scum Vezo to so early give off a fake claim though. Because i would assume he knows that if you flip town, he will be ultimately hung tomorrow. -One of the reasons why I followed him.

Anyways. I'll stall the wagon for now.

Unvote:
Vote: Ademisk

scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

In case Reck didn't mention that I was V/LA this weekend -- I am.

Have only a few moments to post quick thoughts -

Vezo is probably a lyncher with Dekes as his target and has cobbled together some craptastic story to back it up. This is based on a very quick skim but is what is coming to mind of the top. I also have huge issues with a specific statement Vezo made but need to read the thread in depth to gauge who else disliked it.

Reck being the Mod certainly doesn't mean that the lyncher target can't be scum.

In any event several scum likely hopped on the whole Ethan Rom claim.

Based solely on what is right above me and his jump -

VOTE: BloodCov

Also for the record - I've seen every episode of Lost so please don't try pulling any crap flavor information in thread.

Far-Sera : Vezo is not a good policy lynch. There is sufficent meta to read him floating all around the site to decide if he is Town-VI or Scum / 3rd Party VI.

[BloodCovenent]

In case Reck didn't mention that I was V/LA this weekend -- I am.

Have only a few moments to post quick thoughts -

Vezo is probably a lyncher with Dekes as his target and has cobbled together some craptastic story to back it up. This is based on a very quick skim but is what is coming to mind of the top. I also have huge issues with a specific statement Vezo made but need to read the thread in depth to gauge who else disliked it.

Reck being the Mod certainly doesn't mean that the lyncher target can't be scum.

In any event several scum likely hopped on the whole Ethan Rom claim.

Based solely on what is right above me and his jump -

VOTE: BloodCov

Also for the record - I've seen every episode of Lost so please don't try pulling any crap flavor information in thread.

Far-Sera : Vezo is not a good policy lynch. There is sufficent meta to read him floating all around the site to decide if he is Town-VI or Scum / 3rd Party VI.

What jump?

Post is noted that you first brought up the idea of a lyncher.

[chesskid3]

Whats up with the massive smear campgain against vezo?
Dramonic
Dekes
Jenni
Magna