Newbie 1002: Nowherevilletownplace (D3)

[Furcolow]

hope you're the roleblocker, sister

[Maddie]

@ Furcolow - is English your first language? Because I don't think you understand this properly. Even after you claimed a town power role, four people are still willing to vote for you. If anything, I am trying to stop this, for what I believe to be valid reasons, and to push people off your wagon. Hence my question to them. Why would you claim cop as scum? It makes little sense.
However, you make little sense too. Just voting everything that moves and anyone trying to generate discussion. Calm down. You're not helping with this attitude.

[Furcolow]

My English > your English.
You are not helping by cluttering the thread.
Just remain quiet, and get out of my spotlight.
I am a claimed cop, keep to the shadows townie.
If you are a medic, act like a townie and keep to the shadows, honestly.
There is no reason for you to keep responding to me.

I am the cop, I have the spotlight, shut up.

[Maddie]

Seriously? Well, I'm pretty sure right now that you are, indeed, a VI. Stopping players from generating discussion is really not the way to go. Scum hunting is still necessary, even with a cop role in the game. Your job during the day is, therefore, to scum hunt, not to shut people up. Get over yourself.

[Maddie]

In the light of recent events I will ask players to unvote Furcolow for now and reassess the situation.

[Furcolow]

Um. No.
We are forced to roleclaim now, basically, unless you are a medic/doctor, in which case you should lie (and protect me)

Maddie is scum
She is our lynch
I get to pick because I am the detective

[Furcolow]

I'm either going to be killed or roleblocked
I'll get back to you all on which setup it is tomorrow, guys.
I have a feeling there is a medic who will hopefully protect me, even if I am going to be roleblocked, because they might roleblock and use their hit on me. Having a player confirmed like I am via a claim is actually a powerful thing.

sure, it sucks I won't be able to get my checks unless we kill their roleblocker, because i'll be dying if they don't have one, but at least today we have a 1/8 chance instead of a 1/9 chance. That's not that bad. 12.5% is better than 11.1111111111%. I would rather get everyone claiming townie now, because if scum have the balls to counter-claim me our lynch goes to 50%. I'll take that. I wish I didn't have to claim, but that's your guys fault for voting me over false pretenses.

Moving on from this, I am fairly certain Maddie is scum. She didn't know when to back off the thread, which is something a townie would do. Townies know not to take over the thread when there is a power role present. She took over the thread when there was a power role present. She is not a townie.

Lynchable.

[Furcolow]

I am going to bed. Unvote me, and lynch anyone who counterclaims.

[ooBAZZoo]

@Mod -

(a semi-serious question) Is there somehow we can get Furcolow replaced so a proper game can take place here? This thread has been pretty laughable thus far due to how outrageous he's been playing.

@Furcolow -

Your vote on Maddie is a blatant OMGUS vote, which came after she tried to PREVENT your lynch. As a result, all you are doing is highlighting how bad you are at reasoning, and are alienating yourself. (I'm not saying Maddie is town, but she has given us no reason to suspect her as scum either).

Furcolow, please realise that:
A) The town know's hardly anything about anybody's role (including yours). and,
B) We have three weeks before we have to decide who is lynched (time that should be used to get definite reads on people).
Therefore, stop jumping up and down, and claiming "such and such is scum".
Have some patience, and allow some players who have hardly spoken yet to join in with discussion.

Also - Stop dwelling on your role as a cop (or was it "detective"? :p). At this early stage nobody has any reason to believe a word anyone else says, so regardless of what you know about your own role, saying "don't vote me I'm a cop"(paraphrased) is a totally invalid form of defence.
Furthermore, speculating about power roles is always good for scum and bad for town, so if you are town, stop doing it.

Now, to change the subject, a question for you: What do you make of cloudocean's absence?

@Everyone else -

I'm eager for a response to my questions in post #135. I know it wasn't posted long ago, but, just incase you were thinking of ignoring it, avoiding answering somebody's questions would be both scummy and annoying. Thanks.

[Maddie]

@ ooBAZZoo - I think my posts so far have already answered your question. Unfortunately, I believe Furcolow to be town for the above stated reason. Although he has shown poor playing, I don't think he would have taken such a huge chance as scum and go ahead and claim detective/cop, when there was a 50% chance someone could counter-claim. I would vote him out based on his attitude, but this is a game of logic, not popularity.
@ Furcolow - Please motivate your vote in an understandable manner.
Until further notice, my vote is still on Cloudocean, until I hear what he has to say about everything.

[sykedoc]

@Mod -

(a semi-serious question) Is there somehow we can get Furcolow replaced so a proper game can take place here? This thread has been pretty laughable thus far due to how outrageous he's been playing.

No, He would have to commit something such as Ad Hom on multiple occasions enough for me to give him strikes.

Ad Hominem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

The type of play you are currently frustrated with falls under this, which may sometimes sound like Ad Hom, but isn't.

AtE: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... to_emotion

Cloudocean is prodded for lack of posting

[Kanashimi]

@ooBAZZoo

#65:
1) Random Lynch.
2) It's up to them to decide for what reason they should vote someone. But many times it'll cause you to be lynched if your voting reasons are not equal to the rest of the group (in this case town). As a personal example, a reason for me to vote someone is when we can afford a misslynch and we have a player that is doing a bad performance, but doing it (assuming that in this case it's a cop claim) would probably make me being lynched, and that's the ONLY reason i'm not doing it.

#135

1)No, i don't have anything to add to this case besides his behavior.
2)No, i don't belive he's scum.
3)No, i don't have any reasons to believe him as a Pro-Town player.
4)Dind't really understood the question, but you're asking if we should raise any more arguments before lynching him?
No, i believe the propper time to lynch him is now, before he causes more damage.

[Kanashimi]

My opnion about Furcollow is the following:

He's useless to town as he almost got lynched and will be killed/roleblocked this night.
So if we're not eliminating him physically (by lynching him) we should eliminate him socially, ignoring everything he points out as long as it doesn't makes sense or give any profits to the town.
I also want to say that i'm 80% sure it's setup 2.

[Maddie]

@ Kanashimi - if you think it's setup 2 you also think Furcolow is lying?

[Kanashimi]

Yes and no.
I believe that if he knew that a Mafia Roleblocker was alive, he would try to role-fish Cop, as he would die anyway if he claimed Vanilla Townie. So he did it, and was good enough to don't have any counter-claims.

[Kanashimi]

Replace: *good enough* With: *lucky enough*

Also, i will now explain why the no. Accordingly to his last games he is not smart enough to do so. And i doubt he was planning to fake meta-game. That's why i sort of believe him.

[Furcolow]

I am the cop
unvote me idiots

[Furcolow]

I am not going to play in this thread until the town starts unvoting me
what the hell

[sykedoc]

I am the cop
unvote me idiots

Do not AtP in my thread: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... the_Person

I am not going to play in this thread until the town starts unvoting me
what the hell

Strike one

. This type of behavior is inappropriate for this thread and against the spirit of the game. You may not name-call out of frustration, and as an SE I expect more from you than the newer players. You will still be prodded just like everyone else if you refuse to post, and if you do not continue to post after the prod you will be replaced after a 24 hour period..

[Furcolow]

The fact I'm sitting here at L-1 after claiming cop 10 hours ago or so is ludicrous, sykedoc. I know they're newbies, but CMON.

[sykedoc]

The fact I'm sitting here at L-1 after claiming cop 10 hours ago or so is ludicrous, sykedoc. I know they're newbies, but CMON.

Think about the fact that they may not necessarily be voting you for that reason.
See also: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Policy_lynch

[Furcolow]

funny
what about the policy you don't lynch a claimed cop on day 1

and news flash
i really am a cop

[Furcolow]

Yes and no.
I believe that if he knew that a Mafia Roleblocker was alive, he would try to role-fish Cop, as he would die anyway if he claimed Vanilla Townie. So he did it, and was good enough to don't have any counter-claims.

notice the bad grammar/word usage which is indicative of scum

funny how i've been getting onto zenken for that, then kanashimi slips up really bad for it

unvote
vote; zenken

I'm not 100% kanashimi is scum. He might just be really bad as town. Regardless, whoever is voting for me, I am going to repeat myself for the 50th time: I am a cop, unvote me. I am a confirmed town member until there is a counter-claim, which there won't be, because scum won't risk counterclaiming me. They are either going to kill me tonight if they don't have a roleblocker, roleblock me if they do, and possibly kill me too.

If we have a medic(doctor), protect me, because I am the detective(cop).

[Zenken]

@ Everyone (bar el simo and Furcolow) - Have you anything to add to this Furcolow case?
Do you agree he is scum, and if so, how sure are you (give a percentage)? [personally I'm around 80% sure]
Do you have any reasons to suspect him as being, in fact, a town player? Because if so, these are crucial to raise before he is lynched?

@ Bazz

I have nothing to Add to Furcolow's case, he's dug himself a pretty large hole
I do not agree he is scum, but I'm 100% sure he's our now claimed Village Idiot
He has no reason to bluff at this point, not after all of this.
I'm pretty much claiming a Policy lynch, He's not helping the town, because he can't be considered a 'sane cop'. A Cop

Here, we have time, I'm in no rush to lynch someone right away.

unvote

[Zenken]

Opps, sorry, I forgot to get rid of my reference, the first @everyone, is Bazz's question, sorry for that.