Mini 1034 - Castlevania Mafia (Game Over)

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm being asked questions? where? when?

[UncertainKitten]

I'm very curious how self voting benefits scum ^-^.

It's a null tell. If anything it's a stupid tell. Call it eccentric, but that doesn't mean it's not stupid.

[Kdub]

Vote Count

LynchMePls (0)

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drmyshottyizsik (0)

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jenniwren (0)

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UncertainKitten (1)

- McGriddle

MehPlusRawr (2)

- UncertainKitten, Dekes

Katsuki (0)

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Dekes (0)

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Coach Travis (1)

- jenniwren

zwetschenwasser (4)

- Coach Travis, VasudeVa, tanstalas, zwetschenwasser

McGriddle (0)

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VasudeVa (0)

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tanstalas (3)

- LynchMePls, Katsuki, MehPlusRawr

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (1)

- drmyshottyizsik

12 votes available, 7 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is September 16, ~ 9 am PDT.

[tanstalas]

I'm very curious how self voting benefits scum ^-^.

It's a null tell. If anything it's a stupid tell. Call it eccentric, but that doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Assuming that was directed at me?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14465

That was the post I was reading, people make some valid points on self-hammering yourself as scum.

[tanstalas]

EBWOP - My bad that was probably directed at Zwet. Is there anyway to jump to the last unread post? I see the little icon when there are new posts, so I click on the last page of the thread but sometimes I need to backtrack to see where I left off. I currently have everything under "subscribe" do I have to bookmark them instead? does it matter?

[UncertainKitten]

It was to zwet.

At any rate, that thread mostly just says it's stupid to self hammer, which I DO acknowledge has a slight scum advantage, but still leads to a scums death so it's not something I'd get bent out of shape over.

[zwetschenwasser]

^this D:

[LimMePls]

You come into this game, look at just my posts and vote me? As well, you read them in ISO which means you read them out of context.

This is very suspicious to me.

Hey look, someone voting tans is very suspicious to him. What a shock, we haven't seen that before...

[tanstalas]

You come into this game, look at just my posts and vote me? As well, you read them in ISO which means you read them out of context.

This is very suspicious to me.

Hey look, someone voting tans is very suspicious to him. What a shock, we haven't seen that before...

And also like how you leave out my reasoning.

Do you disagree with my reasoning on that looking suspicious LMP?

[VasudeVa]

Tanstalas, when you go attack everyone who attacks you, no one will take you seriously and be ever so suspicious of you.

[Dekes]

@Tans
No.
I don't see the point in answering a question that wants me to speculate about what I will do after your flip if you claim you're not gonna get lynched today.
And I don't see the point in you bringing up my meta either. I played one game prior to this one and I got lynched as the town doctor on Day 1. So, regardless of my alignment, don't you think I will do things differently in my next games?

[LimMePls]

Do you disagree with my reasoning on that looking suspicious LMP?

Yup. Because basically, when you boil it all the way down it reads "you voted me".

[zwetschenwasser]

NOW you realize tans is full of OMGUS.

[UncertainKitten]

Haven't I been saying that this whole time? Tans has been a little eager in attacking his attackers. In the interest of helping him help us, I'd like to ask you...

Tans, who are the scum that are NOT voting you or suspicious of you at this time?

[zwetschenwasser]

I've been saying that this whole time.

[MehPlusRawr]

@Dekes

- While I would love to answer your latest post I am going to refuse until you answer the questions I posed at you. I do not know why you will not do this, as I mentioned in the previous game we played you had tons of hypothesis about if X flips then I'm going to suspect Y, and you did these of your own free will, noone even asked you to. I do not think this is an unreasonable request.

@MPR

- WHAT. THE. FUCK.

You come into this game, look at just my posts and vote me? As well, you read them in ISO which means you read them out of context.

This is very suspicious to me. You look like someone who has replaced into a game as scum, skipped to the end, saw who the bandwagons were on and picked one and attempted to make a case. Seriously, this far into the game I don't think you should be placing a serious vote on someone based on reading them just in ISO and out of context. This at the best looks like lazy town and at the worst opportunistic scum. Also when you came in Zwet was at L-1 (I think) and you did not feel the need to ISO him? How curious

I also noticed your posting (a lot) in other games - however I did not think we could comment on them. Can someone clarify that for rule for me? Does it just mean we can't comment on the actual posts in the game?

There have also been a ton of questions asked (not just by me) that you chose not to answer.

I would be tempted to switch to you just to get pressure on you so you would actually read the thread and make an informed decision - but..

@Zwet

- a self-vote? Really? I always thought this was bad to do as town. In fact just by coincidence I happened to be reading some threads last night and one of them talked about self-hammering. Now - I am nowhere as experienced as you are by any means - however a lot of the people in that thread who commented on were, and the main vibe I got from them were that for the most part they were against it, some said that they would self-hammer in some cases as scum, however I don't think any (maybe one or two people) said they would do it as town. I have never played with you, I skimmed your 57 pages of posts last night and I see that you are mostly a 1 sentence posting kind of guy. Can you please advise why though, as a town member you would self-vote? Maybe the above thread doesn't really apply to you as you didn't "self-hammer" you just put yourself on the bubble, but still curious as to why you would do that?

Haha. I was like "Hmm, he's going to OMGUS me after this post but meh."

Annnd he did.

[Katsuki]

...

I think that [REDACTED] has been affecting zwet a bit too much...

Also welcome back to the game MPR. Is there anything you have to say about anyone else?

[zwetschenwasser]

Also welcome back to the game MPR. Is there anything you have to say about anyone else?

same to you.

[Katsuki]

Nope.

You're still you. Tans is still being tans. Dekes is still town.

[zwetschenwasser]

works for me.

[MehPlusRawr]

...

I think that [REDACTED] has been affecting zwet a bit too much...

Also welcome back to the game MPR. Is there anything you have to say about anyone else?

Not much worth commenting on has happened. Anything in particular you'd like me to talk about? Also, what's with the "Welcome back" when I had posted the previous day?

[tanstalas]

Haven't I been saying that this whole time? Tans has been a little eager in attacking his attackers. In the interest of helping him help us, I'd like to ask you...

Tans, who are the scum that are NOT voting you or suspicious of you at this time?

drmyshottyizsik - I have a "neutral" read on him

jenniwren - Really hasn't posted enough for me to get any sort of read

CT - Seems to be the only person in the game who can actually see through my POV. However maybe he is buddying with me so if I get lynched he can say I knew he was town - see in this post, etc

VasudeVa - seems townish - he is actually looking at other people and asking questions

UK - You have been the most active, however like you said you haven't posted much "content". You have not jumped on my BW - however maybe this does make you scum because you think that given enough rope I will end up hanging myself and you will be fairly safe because you did not hop on my BW

McG - Probably the scummiest of the people who hasn't voted me - says that he is not lurking but is "busy" and that the cases that have been made do not intrigue him enough to warrant a post. If he was town and everyone else hasn't made a case on anyone why doesn't he start? (however this is kind of a moot point since the people on my BW do not seem to want to try to make a case on anyone else either)

After doing my re-read I am not so sure about Zwet and Katsuki anymore. Dekes I am sitting on the fence about.

I am still fairly sure about LMP and now MPR.

MPR for reasons I made in my last post and LMP for reasons made and also because of this post:

Do you disagree with my reasoning on that looking suspicious LMP?

Yup. Because basically, when you boil it all the way down it reads "you voted me".

Unvote:
Vote: MPR

Seriously - I make a case on anyone and you just dismiss it?

And just to throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the scum:

Roleclaim: Role Absorber

During night if

ANY

actions are targeted at me I will inherit those abilities.

I asked the mod via PM (even before this game started) if that applied to a NK directed at me as well.

I will not tell you the answer, but this is why you all should get off my BW now if you are town because this should hopefully make me obv-town in your eyes as if I was lying about this it would be in violation of A6 - "You may

not

quote or

pretend to quote private communications with the mod

or other players."

Now you will all be like why did you roleclaim, etc..

Well at this point this should get you all off me and actually attempt to scumhunt. Me being alive for the nigh is a huge benefit to the town.

I was thinking everyone target me if you have an ability so that I will be able to see what we have on our side. From there I was thinking if we have a cop and a doc I can advise the town tomorrow that we do have both a cop and a doc. As one detriment to being a cop is never knowing if we have a doc and the cop not wanting to come out because if he does than he will be targeted. If he knows there is a doc then after N2 he can start revealing his investigations - if they are innocent or guilty results, without having to worry that he will be NK'd because he knows we have a doc.

However, I do not know if the above is a good plan or not, never had this type of role before. If anyone has any ideas for it, please feel free to share

[zwetschenwasser]

holy shit. does that mean you're NK immune?

[MehPlusRawr]

Proven role isn't proven alignment. Also, you can paraphrase. You can say "the mod said yes" or "the mod said no" but you can't copy/paste the pm.

[tanstalas]

holy shit. does that mean you're NK immune?

As I said, I am not answering what the mod told me. I want to keep the scum guessing.

There are a couple possible outcomes

1)I get targeted and die
2)I get targeted and inherit the NK ability and then I become like a town vig as well
3)I never get targeted - I stay alive until endgame

As well, after N2 (or even after N1) if we have a doc and I announce we do - cop can come out and confirm I am indeed town.