Mini 1037 - Madmen Mafia (Over)

[drmyshottyizsik]

Either way to be safe we should do what I said, and either way he is an anti-town role

[Snow_Bunny]

Stef replaces Gofarman. Welcome to the madness, Stef!

[Stef]

Thank you. Hello guys. Will reread and all that lovely stuff.

[XScorpion]

Lol stef.
Well we caught a jester/scum already, so I'd love to hear your views on that.

[Stef]

Finished rereading. Hey XScorp. Goo.. Ba.. interesting to be playing with you again. Seems you're gonna have two completed games with me after all.

I think nopoint is ... lol. Either jester or scum. should we have him claim? he was at L-1

[drmyshottyizsik]

I think we just off him now, so incase his scum buddy is bussing him right now, we don't give him the chance to unvote

[XScorpion]

Doesn't make any sense to end the day before everyone gets input. Nopoint should claim. Everyone on this wagon should say if they think he's jester or scum. It's a bad idea to lynch him right now...first we want to find everyone else who plans on claiming jester/scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I think he's scum

[Katsuki]

Scum who thinks he's witty and acts jester.

[Katsuki]

Also will note, if he isn't scum, then this train is probably full of opportunistic scum.

[XScorpion]

I don't think so. Scum don't want to lynch jesters either. They can just shoot him.

[XScorpion]

And since scum know he's not scum, they know he's a jester for sure.

[PieMan]

it is my personal opinion that we should allow the new guy to speak a little, and try to have some more conversation, about something, we seriously have discussed like nothing, but if we dont find anything really, ill gladly vote him off. His play doe seem jesterish, drawing attention to him in a way, that would not be done by a maf, and therefore he is probably a maf. I dont like the fact that he could be playing us, but even with the possibilities of negative reprecussions, we would be getting rid of one person that the maf would be able to use against us later, to force a mislynch.

small version, Im willing to kill him off, I just want to wait a little bit and see what info we can get to pop up.

[Mysterio]

Seriously. Nopoint is an obvious jester. I think we need to approach this game from a different perspective. Rather than look for scummy players, who may or may not be jesters, let's look for townie players who may be scum trying to slip by.

Unvote

Vote: XScorpion

Getting the most townie vibes from him.

[XScorpion]

So because I'm the most townie, I must be scum?
I really don't follow your logic.

[PieMan]

VOTE: mysterio

I dont like that concept. If he is being a good townie, hes prolly not the one we should kill.

[Mysterio]

The strategy for jesters to act scummy and for scum to act like jesters are way obvious. Everyone expects that type of play in a game like this. Thus, we should be looking for strategies that aren't all that obvious. A scum player would actually do well to just play normal, as in try to act as townie as possible.

[Chronopie]

A scum player always wants to look town. -.-

It's the Jester(s) that wants to look scummy.

[XScorpion]

The strategy for jesters to act scummy and for scum to act like jesters are way obvious. Everyone expects that type of play in a game like this. Thus, we should be looking for strategies that aren't all that obvious. A scum player would actually do well to just play normal, as in try to act as townie as possible.

Your WIFOM here is just awe-inspiring.

[Mysterio]

@Chrono, yes we know that. That's my point. This isn't a normal game. Scum have a much higher incentive to act like jesters than they do to act like town. Hence why it's the most obvious strategy to use. Going with the opposite might be a way to catch scum slipping.

@XScorpion, how the hell is that WIFOM? Easily the most misused acronym on this site. My argument is based on the fact that this is a jester game, thus normal strategies need to be questioned.

[XScorpion]

It's WIFOM the moment you say "a scum player will behave like this:"
What evidence is there that scum won't simply just feign being a jester?

[Mysterio]

Assuming that they will act like a jester is what leads to WIFOM. That will essentially paralyze us from lynching those players. My proposal is to side step such unhelpful WIFOM by going after scum who may be trying to coast through the game while jesters take all the spotlight. That is just a different strategy on my part, not WIFOM.

[XScorpion]

Then why don't we just assume everyone who is acting like a jester is scum and lynch them? Is there a problem with this?

[Katsuki]

Then why don't we just assume everyone who is acting like a jester is scum and lynch them? Is there a problem with this?

This. Would prevent scum from acting like jesters.

[screl1]

Hmm...how many people on this wagon think nopoint is jester? How many think scum? Show of hands?
I'm willing to bet he's scum trying to fake jester.

I agree - scum

vote:nopoint

well if he's a jester then we need someone else to put him L-2, then your and me vote him at the same time

if he is a jester the point is to not kill him - how would this help town?