Mini 1037 - Madmen Mafia (Over)

[screl1]

sorry for double post but I didn't realize we were already at 5 pages - I figure with Mysterio's WIFOM crap he is most likely to be a jester wanting to jump in and get lynched for derailing a good bandwagon on day one.

[PieMan]

Mysterio so let me get this straight, you think its advantageous to kill the people who are not acting like jesters, and who are not being scummy? Thats what your saying right?

[Mysterio]

Mysterio so let me get this straight, you think its advantageous to kill the people who are not acting like jesters, and who are not being scummy? Thats what your saying right?

Yep.

And why are you voting for me? Disagreeing with my strategy (if indeed you do disagree) doesn't make me scummy.

[PieMan]

Your going after townie players, it smells of mafia to me.

[nopointinactingup]

Like I said. I am Pro-town, why do you all considering me Jester/Scum .
And the result of my self bandwagons is a lot of scum bitting the bait =). If they continue further in pushing for my lynch even after I claim town, they've practically outed themselves.

Say you are scum and there's someone acting like a Jester, you:
- Lack a town mindset tendency to be afraid of lynching Jesters.
- Are fine with lynching anyone as long as it is not you or your mates.
--> Therefore you either can't find a reason, or you latch onto tiny reasons like "he self-voted and blah blah", without wholly thinking of the situation. And you try to get him lynched. That would be you Katsuki, Chronopie, Screl

Unvote,Vote:Screl

@Myterio: I don't think we can speculate how scum would act in general. But it is possible to create scenarios and draw scum reaction from it

[XScorpion]

Are you aware that putting smileys around everything you say makes it harder for people to determine if you are being serious or not?
Nopoint, what is your view of Mysterio's "lynch the towniest people" strategy?

[nopointinactingup]

I disagree with it *shrug*

[PieMan]

I think the big thing nopoint is your an erratic player, and you went with an erratic move, and now we have to discern why in the world it could be made by maf, town, and jester.

its probably why u get killed a lot, though personally after my mind adjusts, i think it may make the games more fun.

[Stef]

Nopoing might be scum fearing his gambit to act like a jester didn't work.

[Percy]

Also will note, if he isn't scum, then this train is probably full of opportunistic scum.

I'd say the opposite is true. If the conclusion is "He is scum or Jester", then there's nothing opportunistic about scum lynching nopoint, since they would have good reason to suspect he's a Jester.

Scum don't want to lynch jesters either. They can just shoot him.

I think the likelihood of scum shooting him is low. While everyone is tied up in "is he scum or Jester" the scum get to skate by. Waiting for scum to do our work for us is not going to win us the game.

Just because wanting to get lynched is a viable scumtell doesn't mean being a townie is also. I do agree with Mysterio that WIFOM is overused on the site - WIFOM is where you are presented with two possible explanations, and the explanations are interchangeable. I'd call his stance "2Jesterscum 4Jesterscum", which is sometimes better than WIFOM, but usually crap.

As in the game I linked before, scum+jesters is very hard, and a lot of it does come down to situations that seem like WIFOM.

Then why don't we just assume everyone who is acting like a jester is scum and lynch them? Is there a problem with this?

Because then the Jesters win...?

Say you are scum and there's someone acting like a Jester, you:
- Lack a town mindset tendency to be afraid of lynching Jesters.

Bullshit.

Anyway, nopoint has solidified my scum/jester read on him. My gut read says he's playing more like scum acting like a Jester than an actual Jester, so my vote stays.

[Percy]

EBWOP: I think the likelihood of scum shooting him is low,

assuming he's a Jester

, etc.

[Chronopie]

ofc the question is:

Does the Jester(s) winning end the game?

Any Jester care to answer me definitively?

[XScorpion]

The mod answered that already:

There is at least one vanilla townie in the setup, as well as at least one mafia faction. All factions have a winnable condition. If a win condition is achieved, and it doesn't directly interfere with the win condition of another faction, the game will keep on. For example, if the win condition of a player is to get certain player lynched, should that player achieve that condition (and no other win condition is achieved at the same time), the game can keep on.

[nopointinactingup]

@Percy: What makes you think I'm not town?

[Stef]

Nah. Nopoint is probably town.

[gandalf5166]

I say fuck jesters. If someone looks lynch-worthy, lynch the fucker. VOTE: Nopoint

[Snow_Bunny]

The third vote count

Chronopie (0)
nopointinactingup (5) - Percy, Katsuki, Chronopie, screl1, gandalf5166
Snow White (0)
Katsuki (0)
XScorpion (1) - Mysterio
screl1 (1) - nopointinactingup
gandalf5166 (0)
PieMan (0)
drymshottyizsik (0)
Percy (0)
Mysterio (1) - PieMan
Gofarman (0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

nopointinactingup

is at L-2.

Deadline is on September 11

[nopointinactingup]

@Gandalf: I'm not a jester so you're fucking the wrong guy =)

[gandalf5166]

@Gandalf: I'm not a jester so you're fucking the wrong guy =)

I know. Just have to get some of that scum ass. Now we can stop being perverted.

[nopointinactingup]

Nah man I'm town (=

[Stef]

Vote Gandalf

[gandalf5166]

Vote Gandalf

Also obv scum trying to be jester.

[XScorpion]

How many jesters and scum do you guys think we have? 2 of each (my guess)? Any more than that and I think the game gets a little silly.

[gandalf5166]

How many jesters and scum do you guys think we have? 2 of each (my guess)? Any more than that and I think the game gets a little silly.

I think that I'm the only town-aligned player.

[Katsuki]

I think I'm gonna regret playing in a multi-jester game with BOTH shotty and gandalf...