Mini #1022- PokeUPick(Game Over)

[gandalf5166]

Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?

Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?

Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.

I think MBF is the only one who hasn't.

[Prox]

You're going to look at everything else, too right?

[gandalf5166]

You're going to look at everything else, too right?

Yeah, just didn't have time. Will do that in a sec though, if my mom doesn't make me get off.

[gandalf5166]

1. It's drmyshotty. I have seen him do some strange things.
2. Not really look at the balance. The fact that this wasn't advertised as bastard means should I prove my role it would also prove innocence.
3. Can't really make a comment on that. I made a choice and ran with it.
4. Stupid role.
5. The fact that I am now under scrutiny and have a purpose for the use of my role now.

Sigh.
1. Whatever. At least you're outright about it.
2. We'll agree to disagree.
3. But why? What did you do? Pick gandalf's name from a hat?
4. So?
5. I don't understand. Are you explaining a question about D/N1 with an example from D2 again?

I just can't put my finger on it. Something isn't right about you.

It's pretty much pseudo-claiming armour. Which is easy for scum to do and explain why they live to endgame.

Regardless, it compliments Lightning Rod from my perspective so I could the mod putting both in. I'm fine with the claim because of that.

Let's kill jimfinn.

Why?

@Gandalf:

@Gandalf: If I successfully send you a magikarp will you accept that I am town? If not why? If that reason is because there is no indication of alignment put yourself in the mods shoes and go back to the first question.

No. It's bullshit, that's why.

Why do you feel this way?

I just don't think that considering Espeo's play, there is any way he's town. I will let him "confirm" himself tonight though. And THEN I'll decide if it's a likely scum role. Because there's no point in speculating if he doesn't actually have the role.

I think he should target someone else, like Jarti or someone that's not under a ton of speculation. Maybe espy should give a list like i did? Then the person can claim it.

But I'm kind of confirmed town >.>

No.

Okay, so you think that me and NB are on a scumteam? You're funny.

OOh, that last post sounds desperate. Like there's some reason he needs to be kept alive until D2. Also, even if we believe DMSIS's claim, it really seems like it's more likely to be a scum role.

Really?

I now understand why he wanted to stay alive, and it makes me more likely to believe the claim, if not his alignment.

Yes, but if scum chose NOT to night kill, then it could be useful to scum, by confusing cops and such. And I'm going to claim, simply because it rather invalidates DMSIS's claim. I'm a roleblocker. So paradox would in fact result. Lynch lynch lynch lynch lynch.

Roleblocks don't work that way, sir.

Okay, if I roleblock and DMSIS activated his power on the same night, then I would be targeting him, which means he would be roleblocked, which means that I wouldn't be targeting him, which means that his ability would work, etc. I'm not sure how the mod planned on handling it >.>

I'm sorry, I figured that DMSIS had answered that question for me. The thing is, DMSIS has these little catch words he uses as scum. Misrep, OMGUS, active lurking, etc. Also, he votehops like a three year old on crack cocaine. If you look at his town games, he mostly just bandwagons and setup speculates. And then there's the line: "Trying to keep suspicion away from himself", which he hasn't used so far this game, but I'm sure it will come soon. In other words, if he's town, you'll be almost certain he's scum. When he's scum, you'll think he's scum, but then you'll decide that he's probably newb town.

And you lynched him anyways?

Where in this post do I say that I think he's town?

Trust me, vezo is town.

wtf?

Well, I was right, wasn't I? Meta FTW.

I don't like Nicol's claim.

Care to explain?

I could've claimed to have scanned bv last Night if I wanted.

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Xite- you have to admit, he is more confirmed than most people here.

Except he's so weird...

Are you gonna be more specific than weird? This is the way I play as confirmed town, or are you referring to my play pre-scan?

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Gandalf's play is weird, too...

[Prox]

"Okay, so you think that me and NB are on a scumteam? You're funny."
Or...just one if you is scum.

"Are you gonna be more specific than weird? This is the way I play as confirmed town, or are you referring to my play pre-scan?"
Both. You shouldn't start playing like you're confirmed town.

"Where in this post do I say that I think he's town?"
You don't. But I could c/p that into any game including drmyshottyizsik to say that he's town, too.
Just to note, I'm pretty conscious of shotty's play-style as well.

[Prox]

Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?

Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?

Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.

I think MBF is the only one who hasn't.

Also, this post has 3 lines.

[gandalf5166]

I believe the claims. I even believe Espeo's, for the most part. Nexus claim is a little out there to be fake.

[Prox]

Ok then.

Let's do an expiriment, then.

Living Players (10):
jimfinn
NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
Prox
bv310
Jarti
Xite91
Switz
mikeburnfire

Living Players who Have Not Claimed(5/10):
jimfinn

NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
Prox

bv310
Jarti

Xite91

Switz
mikeburnfire

Half the players ruled out.

Of the 5 remaining, who are scummiest?

[Prox]

And that's the plan for today. We can let another Night occur and gather from that, then worry about the claimers with this new info.

Almost Each role is confirmable. However, xite's lack of a vig kill means we have a scum roleblocker. Or an unspoken-for town RBer. Or a lie of a wizard-alias-user. Or two of the former.

Esp gives a magikarp to someone WHO IS MOST LIKELY TOWN. We shouldn't discuss who this is obviously. I just hope you use better discretion this time.
Nicol targets someone with an ability, and, if ignorant of what will occur, assumes that it will kill.
Xite targets one of the scummiest persons with her ability- we should be sure that they don't target the same person.

Gandalf's role is not confirmable.

[Espeonage]

I really want to lynch Nicol of only for his flip which could break the game open as we then have alot more info on gandalf and from that we could work some other shit out. That said I also don't want to lose an active potential townie.

So I will run with a jimfinn lynch.

[Xite91]

Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?

Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?

Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.

I really want to lynch Nicol of only for his flip which could break the game open as we then have alot more info on gandalf and from that we could work some other shit out. That said I also don't want to lose an active potential townie.

So I will run with a jimfinn lynch.

Eeny Meeny Minie Moe

Unvote, vote Prox

Just became so much more inclined to believe prox is scum.

Espy is up there, though. Even if I do agre with his Nicol idea.
Are those three already in my list?

[gandalf5166]

Damn. Wow. ITT, we learn that Prox is scum. He rules out everyone who has claimed and says we should choose who to lynch out of everyone who hasn't. Way to rolefish.

VOTE: Prox

[Espeonage]

Hmmm. Eh. I don't like this lynch so much. Prox was coming off as town earlier but I can't argue with the fact that early massclaim benefits scum just as much as town.

VOTE: Prox I'm not in a position to go against this lynch though.

[Prox]

Are you crazy? What's with the quick bandwagon?

You said yourself that you believe each claim. Therefore, apparently you find someone who hasn't claimed scummy.

And Esp and Gandalf are on the wagon. Do you see how torn I feel?

[gandalf5166]

Look, Prox. Believe claim =/= believe town.

[Xite91]

Hmmm. Eh. I don't like this lynch so much. Prox was coming off as town earlier but I can't argue with the fact that early massclaim benefits scum just as much as town.

VOTE: Prox I'm not in a position to go against this lynch though.

Ahhhhh
I wish I had more than one vote!

[Prox]

Look, Prox. Believe claim =/= believe town.

*facepalm*

Sigh...which claimants, then?
You disagree with Esp's logic about his role?
Or do you think Nicol's scan was by scum?
Or that I'm a scum nexus?
Or do you think xite, who claimed vig [vigs are always town unless not vgs], is SK?
Or do you know that you're actually a RBer with an antitown alliance?

@xite: I can't believe you! You have Esp in all his failitude, and decide that I am more likely to be scum? There isn't even a valid attack on me. Also, answer my question.

Really, I just don't understand you guys. You just keep doin it wrong, and you can't all be scum.

[Xite91]

Look, Prox. Believe claim =/= believe town.

*facepalm*

Sigh...which claimants, then?
You disagree with Esp's logic about his role?
Or do you think Nicol's scan was by scum?
Or that I'm a scum nexus?
Or do you think xite, who claimed vig [vigs are always town unless not vgs], is SK?
Or do you know that you're actually a RBer with an antitown alliance?

@xite: I can't believe you! You have Esp in all his failitude, and decide that I am more likely to be scum? There isn't even a valid attack on me. Also, answer my question.

Really, I just don't understand you guys. You just keep doin it wrong, and you can't all be scum.

answer what question?
and if you want a case on you, I can make one. just give me till tomorrow because I'm working on like 5 different cases today

[gandalf5166]

Prox, any one of those claims could have been from scum. INCLUDING mine(if not for the fact that I'm confirmed) and possibly even NB's. If there were two scum teams of two each(possible in a twelve player game), a cop scan could be potentially useful to scum. Of course, there aren't enough kills, which also means hat he would have to be scummates with Xite. Unlikely, but possible. Hence why I'm considering NB confirmed. And thus me confirmed. Scum nexus is NOT hard to believe at all. Espeo, I'm withholding judgment on. Xite is possibly an SK, or maybe even scum who somehow knew that there were two scumteams and decided to turn it to her advantage. That one, again, is unlikely. So I would think SK, IF I thought she was scummy. As for me, there's not really any point in asking the question, since you know what the answer's going to be >.> But I could be scum, yes. Either a scum roleblocker, scum with a roleblocker partner, or scum fakeclaiming entirely.

[Xite91]

Prox, any one of those claims could have been from scum. INCLUDING mine(if not for the fact that I'm confirmed) and possibly even NB's. If there were two scum teams of two each(possible in a twelve player game), a cop scan could be potentially useful to scum. Of course, there aren't enough kills, which also means hat he would have to be scummates with Xite. Unlikely, but possible. Hence why I'm considering NB confirmed. And thus me confirmed. Scum nexus is NOT hard to believe at all. Espeo, I'm withholding judgment on. Xite is possibly an SK, or maybe even scum who somehow knew that there were two scumteams and decided to turn it to her advantage. That one, again, is unlikely. So I would think SK, IF I thought she was scummy. As for me, there's not really any point in asking the question, since you know what the answer's going to be >.> But I could be scum, yes. Either a scum roleblocker, scum with a roleblocker partner, or scum fakeclaiming entirely.

Wait so which one is it, am I an sk, or am I a vig?
If you're going to throw accusations, make sure they're clear plox

[Prox]

...what accusation? Hypothetical situations are hypothetical.

Gandalf, I had asked which claims you believed in, found fishy, or outright disliked.

It's obvious that no one is confirmed. I'm asking about opinions.

[Prox]

...which don't match.

Gandalf, wtf?

[Xite91]

Prox, any one of those claims could have been from scum. INCLUDING mine(if not for the fact that I'm confirmed) and possibly even NB's. If there were two scum teams of two each(possible in a twelve player game), a cop scan could be potentially useful to scum. Of course, there aren't enough kills, which also means hat he would have to be scummates with Xite. Unlikely, but possible. Hence why I'm considering NB confirmed. And thus me confirmed. Scum nexus is NOT hard to believe at all. Espeo, I'm withholding judgment on.

Xite is possibly an SK, or maybe even scum who somehow knew that there were two scumteams and decided to turn it to her advantage. That one, again, is unlikely. So I would think SK, IF I thought she was scummy.

As for me, there's not really any point in asking the question, since you know what the answer's going to be >.> But I could be scum, yes. Either a scum roleblocker, scum with a roleblocker partner, or scum fakeclaiming entirely.

Wait so which one is it, am I an sk, or am I a vig?
If you're going to throw accusations, make sure they're clear plox

Bolded are said accusations. It's that REALLY good fence-sitting type things

also, what question? Answer mine

[Robocopter87]

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Vote Count

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jimfinn [1] Jarti
NicolBolas [0]
Espeonage [1] Switz
gandalf5166 [0]

Prox [3] Xite91, Gandalf5166, Espeonage

bv310 [0]
Jarti [0]
Xite91 [0]
Switz [1] Nicolbolas
mikeburnfire [0]

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Not Voting

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jimfinn, Prox, bv310, Mikeburnfire

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Amount to Lynch

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With 10 Alive it is 6 to Lynch.

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Deadline

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None yet.

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[Espeonage]

UNVOTE: Prox