Mini 1037 - Madmen Mafia (Over)

[screl1]

Let's lynch Screl. He's actively lurking.

Let's lynch nopoint. He's actively scumming.

[XScorpion]

Look XS. Jester lynch =/= end of the fucking world.

I'd rather avoid having to fakeclaim scum to avoid them winning again thnx.

The game does NOT end if the jesters are lynched.

No, but we still lose. How is that any better?

[gandalf5166]

Look XS. Jester lynch =/= end of the fucking world.

I'd rather avoid having to fakeclaim scum to avoid them winning again thnx.

The game does NOT end if the jesters are lynched.

No, but we still lose. How is that any better?

How do we still lose?

[XScorpion]

Because the jesters win? We're basically fighting for second place in that case.

[gandalf5166]

Because the jesters win? We're basically fighting for second place in that case.

How does our win condition affect theirs? They win, but we still win too :/

[XScorpion]

Technically we get second place, because they win first. It's the same with the lyncher (who wins if he lynches a certain person). We only share the win with third party roles that win simultaneously with us (survivors for example).

[gandalf5166]

Technically we get second place, because they win first. It's the same with the lyncher (who wins if he lynches a certain person). We only share the win with third party roles that win simultaneously with us (survivors for example).

If that's the silly way you want to think of it.

[XScorpion]

I'm here to win, not come in second place. So I'm playing cautious.

[Katsuki]

Personally, the only advantage I see to no-lynch would be if we had no clear

scum

candidate. In this case, we have nopoint. He's done nothing to change my view thus far, and this would also eliminate a vig/cop candidate at night, giving them a better chance of hitting scum/jester.

[XScorpion]

Fine.

unvote
vote: nopoint

If he's jester we ARE no lynching tomorrow.

[Katsuki]

Fine.

unvote
vote: nopoint

If he's jester we ARE no lynching tomorrow.

I agree with that.

[XScorpion]

I think that's L-1.
Nopoint please claim.

[Katsuki]

I think he is at L2. Gandalf unvoted no?

[Mysterio]

This game is giving me a headache. I'd really rather not lynch Nopoint. He screams jester to me.

XScorpion has made some insane arguments that he's finally given up on, but it reads to me as scum trying to avoid town lynches by arguing that it will somehow make us win. That's just pure scum BS.

[Katsuki]

This game is giving me a headache. I'd really rather not lynch Nopoint. He screams jester to me.

XScorpion has made some insane arguments that he's finally given up on, but it reads to me as scum trying to avoid town lynches by arguing that it will somehow make us win. That's just pure scum BS.

We have a jester team. We do not lose from lynching 1 jester. I do not see why we are fearing D1 lynch. Furthermore, nopoint does not scream jester to me at all.

I would be all for D2 no-lynch depending on nopoint flip.

At first I thought xscorp was jester trying to make ridiculous no-lynch argument, but I am starting to be able to see where he is coming from. I still do not support it today, but xscorp is probably town.

[Katsuki]

Furthermore, I'd rather go into night with some information, rather than none. Wagon flips are VERY useful, and instead of say wasting a cop/vig on nopoint, I'd rather lynch, and depending on flip, give our cop/vig direction as to what they should do come night.

[XScorpion]

I think he is at L2. Gandalf unvoted no?

Drshotty voted for him.

XScorpion has made some insane arguments that he's finally given up on, but it reads to me as scum trying to avoid town lynches by arguing that it will somehow make us win. That's just pure scum BS.

So first you say you should lynch me because I'm 'giving off the most townie vibes,' now you're arguing that I'm scummy. Get your story straight.
And I'm not giving up on my argument. No lynch is still a good idea for later, but I suppose we can afford to risk one lynch on day 1. Like I said, we're hands down going to no lynch tomorrow if he flips jester.

I think the vig should shoot screl1 or gandalf.
I think the cop should investigate shotty or stef.
Before the day ends I think we need 1) a nopoint claim and 2) everyone to give their opinions on who the cop/vig should target.

[Katsuki]

Vig shoot: gandalf or snow white (honestly, ridic comment to open the game and then lurk more?)
Cop: Stef or Mysterio

[gandalf5166]

Snow white always lurks. And btw, is a vig kill likely being directed at me good enough reason for me to claim? >.> I'll hammer once NP claims.

[XScorpion]

Snow white always lurks. And btw, is a vig kill likely being directed at me good enough reason for me to claim? >.>

I'd say probably not unless EVERYONE thinks you're a good vig target.

[PieMan]

@Katsuki We have a jester team? When did we find this out?

[gandalf5166]

@Katsuki We have a jester team? When did we find this out?

It's a stupid assumption everyone's making.

[Katsuki]

Did you not read game description?...

When I saw this game in game queue, it explicitly stated jester team...

[gandalf5166]

It said multiple jesters, said nothing about a team.

[Katsuki]

Oh, that is my bad. I mis-interpreted "multiple jesters" and "few madmen" as jester team.