Open 226: Big Love - Game over! Town wins!

[mallowgeno]

You first

[ZeroFang]

He asked first. Proper protocol = you answer first, than ask your question.

[DavidParker]

I wish we had wolf accounts we could abuse here Enigma

Umm, I voted for Chi so long ago, that I don't remember my reasons for voting for him at the time. I'll have to go reread that part of the game you are talking about.

[DavidParker]

I voted him because he was playing like scummy mc scum scum? There was even a lover's claim but he was still considered scummy beyond all reason. I later changed my vote since I found someone else scummy who hadn't claimed lover. (Ironically enough he was also a lover)

[ZeroFang]

Because I'm feeling nice, and we've got those pesky TLDR's about.

I thought those questions were simply expressing thought, and thus were rhetorical. I read your posts. Can't say I agree with them, but I did infact read them.

About your Xite/Millar/Robo buddying being too close for comfort. Who of those three did/do you think are scum?

If this wasn't clear, I thought they were all scum together.

Your #533-536 mention others more than Chihuahua. Why did you find Chihuahua scummy?

He was active lurking (later just lurking), vote hopping, and looking for any excuse to lynch someone. Read his ISO. You'd be hard pressed

not

to find him scummy.

[mallowgeno]

Exactly what makes you feel he is town?

My interpretation of his posting. Your turn, what site did you play with him before?

[Enigma]

I'll bite the bullet but I still want a less pathetic answer.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2316160
^Now that is beneficial to you how?

Exactly what parts of his posts give you a town feel and what do you interpret them as?

PS: Godz tell me what I said isn't true

[Robocopter87]

CMON SANXION, IM WAITING MAN
PATIENCE GROWING THIN

[mallowgeno]

I'll bite the bullet but I still want a less pathetic answer.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2316160
^Now that is beneficial to you how?

Exactly what parts of his posts give you a town feel and what do you interpret them as?

PS: Godz tell me what I said isn't true

That would be accurate. That's a game I played with him...

[RedCoyote]

God love you, Miyu. I don't know how you could stomach this game. I read through the first ten pages, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do it. There is just far too much nonsense going on.

Day 1 Lynch

chihuahua0

(smashbro_of_the_SSS,

don_johnson

,

Fidelis

, Sanxion1, Robocopter87, DavidParker,

Zajnet

,

yabbaguy

, millar13,

Shattered Viewpoint

) 10 (L-0)
millar13 (Mr.Sandman,

chihuahua0

) 2 (L-8)
Robocopter87 (Xite9) 1 (L-9)
Xite91 (Switz,

Pittbunny

, Muthaa, ZeroFang) 4 (L-6)
Not voting: Enigma, Wacka Alpaca

Day 2 Lynch

Enigma (DavidParker) 1 L-8

Shattered Viewpoint

(Switz, Mr.Sandman, smashbro_of_the_SSS,

Zajnet

, Sanxion, mallowgeno,

don_johnson

, millar13,

Shattered Viewpoint

) 9 L-0

Zajnet

(

yabbaguy

) 1 L-8
Not voting: Enigma, Muthaa, Robocopter87, Wacka Alpaca, ZeroFang

Day 3 Lynch

mallowgeno (

Zajnet

) 2 L-6
Wacka Alpaca (Sanxion, Muthaa) 2 L-6

Zajnet

(Switz, ZeroFang,

don_johnson

, Robocopter87, Mr.Sandman, DavidParker, mallowgeno, smashbro_of_the_SSS) 7 L-1
Not voting: Enigma, Muthaa, Robocopter87, Wacka Alpaca, ZeroFang

A few things stick out to me almost immediately:

1) Enigma and Miyu (Wacka Alpaca) have curiously not had a vote down before any of the three lynches occured.
2) Enigma, Miyu (Wacka Alpaca), ZeroFang, and Muthaa were not on either of the scum wagons during D1 & D2, yet ZeroFang was on the town lynch wagon during D3.
3) Me (SSSS), Sanxion, and the doc (millar) were on both of the scum wagons during D1 & D2.

Based on this primitive, excessively general overview of the game, ZeroFang is not looking too hot. Enigma, have you been scared to throw a vote down this game?

[Robocopter87]

Actually, the Doc was yabbaguy. Not Millar.

[Enigma]

I've had the luxury of knowing I'm confirmed town that I've gotten a bit lazy.

Mallow still yet to answer my question.

[DavidParker]

Hey now. You're not confirmed town. You and millar could be scum buddies, and banking on the two sets of lovers left not claiming to go unnoticed.

[Enigma]

That's the dumbest scum move ever considering there are only 2 goons left in the game. Scum could never make it into LYLO for town with that play.

And take a look at the circumstances at which millar first claimed.

[DavidParker]

[RedCoyote]

Actually, the Doc was yabbaguy. Not Millar.

The doc as in drmyshotty, not as in the Doctor role.

[Miyu]

I feel ya Red. It wasn't so bad, until I got to the third Day and all of the vote switching... after Zajnet had been lynched. You can bring a horse to water, but... -shrug-

I've had the luxury of knowing I'm confirmed town that I've gotten a bit lazy.

Mallow still yet to answer my question.

Since you've acknowledged it. What are you going to do, to banish the lazy?

[Miyu]

Also.
Robo, why the lurking and complete ignoring of my questions posed to you?

[Enigma]

Since you've acknowledged it. What are you going to do, to banish the lazy?

I'm going to ask you why you haven't acknowledged your predcessor's play and the circumstances involving his replacement and your opinion of his game play up to the point where you replaced in.

[Mr.Sandman]

I'd be interested to know what you think the answers to those questions are, ZeroFang...

I want people to speak up about the subject so that I can make more informed decisions. I'm in a toss up at the moment and so I want people's general thoughts. Though, ignoring it is ok to I guess

I didn't ignore it. It's easy enough to be the one who dictates things and asks the questions, without giving anything away yourself. I wanted your answer so that I can make more informed decisions about you...

Because I'm feeling nice, and we've got those pesky TLDR's about.

- Mr.Sandman, do you think scum would act how millar acted? How is that behavior, on the first day no less; beneficial to the scum? To me it seemed he was that way from the get-go, and he was close to getting lynched.
- Switz why would you do all of that reading and giving opinions, to then boil it all down to mathematics?
- Zero. About your Xite/Millar/Robo buddying being too close for comfort. Who of those three did/do you think are scum?
- Zero. Your #533-536 mention others more than Chihuahua. Why did you find Chihuahua scummy?
- Why do you lurk Muthaa?
- David, why did you vote for Chihuahua?

- Sanxion, why are you lurking and wagoning, and overall contributing very little to the discussions?

- Wow David. One minute. Jumpy, much?
- Muthaa, why are you always lurking?
- mallow. Why do you wagon? Did you even ISO Muthaa?


All of the questions. Please answer, thanks.

It wreaked confusion. Confusion allows scum to do what it does less easily detected. I also looked at it from the point of view of how was it in any way benefiting the town to play like that? I still don't know the answer to that but millar is fairly low on the radar now.

Robo is still doing sweet fanny adams.

Switz, you obviously don't understand.

We aren't going to catch scum by scumhunting. Not this time. I said it before, there is to many scummy things about each individual player to build a case on one person that outdoes all the other players.

I am willing to lynch Wacka due to his, "And Robo, don't screw this up for us "

Right there he basically claims scum. I know that calls me scum too but he knows hes going down. So why not take someone down with him? Since I am one of the scummiest players, he chooses me. Which is the obvious choice.

Now please, let us Lynch this scumbag.

This just adds to my thoughts on robo. We aren't going to catch scum by scumhunting? That means essentially we're just guessing. And then you go straight on from there to do exactly what you said wouldn't work by looking like you're attempting to scum hunt by finding something scummy wrong with wacka's post

[ZeroFang]

2) Enigma, Miyu (Wacka Alpaca), ZeroFang, and Muthaa were not on either of the scum wagons during D1 & D2, yet ZeroFang was on the town lynch wagon during D3.

Actually, I was on the day 1 scum lynch up until the last second. Switz convinced me that we should keep that lover pair alive because there was a townie attached, and Xite's earlier play which I hadn't reviewed since coming back was pretty damn scummy. A couple busy days later, and night fell upon the town with the original lynch I had in mind. This is why context is important (sorry you couldn't get through the former half of the game, that shit was insane).

Switz's post is here.

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote vote wacka

I'd rather more pressure be put on mallow first, but he is the scummiest

[ZeroFang]

Wacka has been replaced by Miyu.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Oh ya I forgot sorry

Vote Miyu

[mallowgeno]

I've had the luxury of knowing I'm confirmed town that I've gotten a bit lazy.

Mallow still yet to answer my question.

I fail to see why I should answer when you didn't answer my question, just posted a game of me and DP.

Isn't Wacka/Miyu lynched with that vote? Or is it L-1?