Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[Seraphim]

Some people are coming out of the woodwork, claiming abilities to get things down when they need getting down and such and such and such. Other people have found common voice, accusing one person of being one of the murderers. Whether or not those accusations will hold will be a matter of time...the sun is barely up but the hours tick away...

Vote Count

NicolBolas(0) -

Jack(4)

– NicolBolas, PranaDevil, SnakePlissken, Nero Cain
vezokpiraka(0) -
curiouskarmadog(0) -
Stef(0) -

horrordude0215(1)

- Stef

Espeonage(6)

– vollkan, DemonHybrid, horrordude0215,CooLDoG, a2rudeboy, Pomegranate
vollkan(0) -
CooLDoG(0) -

Nero Cain(1)

- Jack

zwetschenwasser(0)

- Espeonage

a2rudeboy(1)

- Looker
Pomegranate(0) -

Looker(1)

– zwetschenwasser
SnakePlissken(0) -

PranaDevil(1)

- curiouskarmadog
DemonHybrid(0) –
totallynotmafia(0) -

Not Voting(2)

- vezokpiraka, totallynotmafia

With 18 alive, it is 10 to lynch
Deadline: September 16, 2010, 12:00 pm, Central Time

[DemonHybrid]

well kids, you are not getting it...you got a problem with that vote me....

Nope. Sticking with who I think is scum. You're just stubborn. Nice AtE there though.

If others are willing to out the role name, I'm sure they'd be more helpful. zwet, TNM, Pom?

Preview edit: Like I'm saying now: Stubborn, not scummy.

And NO. Saying the role name or any other available info is PRO-TOWN. That is a -fact-.

[Pomegranate]

And NO. Saying the role name or any other available info is PRO-TOWN. That is a -fact-.

Sorry, but that is an -opinion-.

[PranaDevil]

As DH says, stating the role name would be pro-town at this point, considering ALL four of you now state you have the same role, and the same abilities, the role name is the one bit that now shouldn't matter to you anymore.

However the role name is rather important to what I've got on my mind, which is why I want to hear it.

[DemonHybrid]

And NO. Saying the role name or any other available info is PRO-TOWN. That is a -fact-.

Sorry, but that is an -opinion-.

And I was obviously -exaggerating-.

This conversation is now -ridiculous-.

[DemonHybrid]

It's rather stunning me that this information is so important that all 4 claimed neighbors won't even release the role name.

Can you guys at least tell us why the

name

is so important without telling us the actual name?

[PranaDevil]

I find it funny how the name is the all important bit, while the actual ability can be easily thrown out there for the scum to see... surely as the ability is already known, then the actual name is pointless?

It's like me saying, for instance:

"I can investigate people each night and find out whether they're innocent or guilty" but then refusing to state that my role name is Cop.

It would be ridiculous to a massive extent. We already know you're joint-vigs. You all told us that, I still don't even know why you felt it was deathly important to inform us of that night 1, as based on that surely a normal vig should be claiming Day 1 so that we all know why there's more kills out there? (Yes, I accept Pom didn't feel it was a good idea to claim, so it's at most 3 of the others, depending on whether TNM agreed to the claim with CKD).

None of this is making any sense to me so far, the claims were unneeded at this stage of the game, and the desperate hiding of the role names despite outing the entire role is actually laughable. So c'mon... what's so important about the name's that they're more important than the abilities themselves?

[Looker]

Posting as soon as possible; my computer's acting funky.

[curiouskarmadog]

if you knew you would understand....my neighbor and I are vig-like..not vigs....I dont need to tell you if we are two shot, unlimited shot, etc...i dont need to tell you any other part of the mechanic, which is in the name...so no, it is not pro-town...so back the fuck off....if you think i am scummy for not telling you..vote me or move on.

at this point, you are looking scummy for role fishing...keep in mind, i didnt have to tell you jack.

[DemonHybrid]

This is absurd. I don't even know how to respond.

[Jack]

DH and prana are being silly.

[Jack]

Sorry, that was kind of an insult

The role name claim doesn't seem important, nor does the refusal.

[DemonHybrid]

DH and prana are being silly.

Sorry, that was kind of an insult

I nearly lost it after reading these

You need to do a LOT more to insult me, Mr. Jack.

[Espeonage]

What is the point of the nameclaim? You guys have said you want the name for flip puposes. That kinda only applies if we are lynching one and thus getting the flip.

[DemonHybrid]

What is the point of the nameclaim? You guys have said you want the name for flip puposes. That kinda only applies if we are lynching one and thus getting the flip.

Well, I, for one, think that withholding something simple like a strange role name is somewhat anti-town, but I can see why if they have a plan and they have X amount of shots.

I have no clue what Prana's thinking.

[Espeonage]

I would leave them. Let them keep their names hidden. We know their roles and we don't want to give potential fuel to scum with more unneccessary claiming.

[Looker]

We don't know if scum had night talk pre-game so I'm considering that little spat null.

IIRC, doesn't scum ALWAYS have pregame talk?

Wouldn't know; it's been a while. Either way, it makes my point more valid. Regarding your question: I voted Nero Cain to have a genuine RVS on the board.

Vote Horrordude

, you pissed me off last game we were in.

Are you still in this game?

I find it funny how the name is the all important bit, while the actual ability can be easily thrown out there for the scum to see... surely as the ability is already known, then the actual name is pointless?

They're not claiming the role name because they're not claiming the entire role; so they're not claiming "all the ins and outs" - do you still have something to share?

if you knew you would understand....my neighbor and I are vig-like..not vigs....I dont need to tell you if we are two shot, unlimited shot, etc...i dont need to tell you any other part of the mechanic, which is in the name...so no, it is not pro-town...so back the fuck off....if you think i am scummy for not telling you..vote me or move on.

at this point, you are looking scummy for role fishing...keep in mind, i didnt have to tell you jack.

UNVOTE: VOTE: curiouskarmadog
Do you propose we lynch you or totallynotmafia?

What's your opinion on the probability of Zwet and Pom having the same role name as you and totallynotmafia?


Also,

didnt have to tell you

jack

.

I think we've found your post restriction.

[Looker]

If we don't lynch curiouskarmadog, SnakePlissken I want you to Watch one of the four claimed neighbor-vigs.

[DemonHybrid]

What the hell is going on

[Looker]

I don't know; it's hard to remember.

[Looker]

What's so bad about the game on your Facebook page?

[DemonHybrid]

What's so bad about the game on your Facebook page?

Whoa, hello.

Take that to PMs, chief.

[PranaDevil]

Hang on... role fishing? How on earth does someone fish for something you have already given up?

Anyway, my issue is that you had to release the information as to your role early so that if you died we would know why there's another kill.

However, depending on the role name, then surely we would already know that just by looking at it? The fact you are now desperately holding onto the least important part of your claim is very suspect (This goes mainly to CKD, but counts for all of our "Vigs"), almost like it would completely blow out of the water your reasons for telling us your ability, and no, now I've had to explain this any attempt to give your role name will not make you seem any better because now you could be deliberately re-wording it to avoid showing that you didn't need to claim.

[Looker]

What's so bad about the game on your Facebook page?

Whoa, hello.

Take that to PMs, chief.

[vezokpiraka]

LOL. neighbors with vig shots. Why the heck did you guys claimed?
If you are town you did very bad because the scum may no kill and get a nice little bunch of WIFOM.
This claim is like what scum means.
I believe they are scum running a gambit. Let's kill one of them and see what happens.

unvote vote CKD