Open 249: Mayo Clinic **Game Over!**

[Antihero]

VOTE: nopointinactingup

Your soul is a cavern of lies!

[Antihero]

Has anyone noticed that it's page 2, and JS still doesn't have a vote out?

[Antihero]

And what do you think that means?

I thought it was because he might be scum, and casting a vote would cause too much cognitive dissonance for him. But since there are better things to persue, like Katsuki and SSS's defense of it.

@Scott: Oh are you protecting muthaa's lack of wanting to place a vote?

Jesse at least explained why they didn't

, muthaa has yet to.

Really? And where did he do this?
UNVOTE: nopointinactingup
VOTE: Katsuki

Nothing was happening, so people wanted to start a wagon to get discussion going. I'm going to:
unvote, vote:antihero

why does it matter whether or not jesse votes?

Chainsaw defense, much? What I say to warrant a vote?

no because if he truely were claiming scumz he would be mod killed
any way there's nothing here against gandalf, but no point you are looking really scum, and ultra super dumb.
unvote
vote nopoint
if you aren't scum(which it's looking like you are), this would almost be a kill a dumb doctor who would just protect scum and confuse the town policy lynch

Ah, f$#%, here we go again.

[Antihero]

@Muthaa: Perhaps, but unbearably slowly.

@Anti: Erm, yeah, jesse did. What smashbro said.

JS said he didn't random vote; that's different from saying

why

.

Just curious, when have you ever seen scum employ that type of tactic?

I've never seen

anyone

employ that tactic. Do you usually not cast a random vote (I didn't see where you said that, but I guess I could have missed it)?

[Antihero]

If I had to pick out players who I think are most likely to be scum I'd say you, Phaen. Town players don't normally seek out reasons for players to be scum. That's something scum do because they can't actually pick out other players to be scum, because they're the scum.

lolwat?

UNVOTE: Katsuki
VOTE: JesseSheffield

But Katsuki is still scum.

[Antihero]

wtf? Care to say how I am scum?

No
Hint: The reason can be found in the aweful nopoint vote.

Having issues?

Yes, especially when you call Phaen scum after she pressures you to take an opinion.

[Antihero]

Yes, especially when you call Phaen scum after she pressures you to take an opinion.

So you have an issue with me answering Phaen's question? How does this make sense?

Yes, I do have an issue with

how

you answered Phaen's question.

[Antihero]

Hey sorry for the little absence. And since I like being lazy, cans someone summerize the nopoint wagon?:)

I don't know, why doesn't Katsuki do this for us?

[Antihero]

Hey sorry for the little absence. And since I like being lazy, cans someone summerize the nopoint wagon?:)

I don't know, why doesn't Katsuki do this for us?

Did you miss this piece of fluff? I actually would like this please.

[Antihero]

ISO nopoint.

No, you iso nopoint. If I thought nopoint was scum, I would be voting him/saying I thought he was scum. Tell me how you arrived at that conclusion.

Jesse's list = goodposting

UNVOTE: JesseSheffield
VOTE: Katsuki

[Antihero]

Unvote, Vote: Muthaa

I can go with this one.

Antihero is next after muthaa.

Still waiting on that reason for the nopoint vote.

[Antihero]

Oh yea I forgot I have some questions, too.

@Katsuki

• I know it's gotta be really annoying to be asked the same question over and over again, but I don't understand the nopoint wagon either. I even ISO'd him and I can't really get a solid read on him. Could you at least shed some light on what made you want to join that wagon?
  
• What do you mean by "Antihero is next after muthaa" ? Do you expect the day to end very soon? Would this be a good thing?

nopoint seems to be just skating past this game and looking for bandwagons to join.

Sound familiar?

Almost entirely fluff posts, and says that his iso is "painfully town"? Essentially, he is active lurking.
Antihero is prob scum. By that statement, I mean that if muthaa is able to convince us that he is town, then antihero is next. Or if muthaa is lynched, then antihero tomorrow (barring revealing wagon flip signs or stuff like that/death)

Also, I didn't feel like answering anti since he's done virtually nothing all game except call me scum. When I asked him to explain, his answer was "no".

As opposed to your answer to my question about nopoint, which was either "iso" or nothing at all.

Maybe it will seem like OMGUS to you guys, but does anti give town vibes to

anyone

???

Here's your case if you want it:

Going back to page 3, where the serious stuff actually started:

Scott voted Katsuki for his push on Muthaa, to which Katsuki responded:

@Scott: Oh are you protecting muthaa's lack of wanting to place a vote? Jesse at least explained why they didn't, muthaa has yet to.

This is hypocritical. Jesse had not explained

why

he wasn't voting at the time, so it could be argued that you are protecting Jesse's actions.

Reading your posts in ISO, it's also pretty hypocritical of you to call anyone else down on fluff posting.

On page 4, you become "happy" with your gandalf vote for this reason:

You seem awfully desperate to use this [gandalf's "scum claim"] as a reason as to why you CAN NOT be scum... I am happy with my vote.

Rereading gandalf, I see no evidence of this. Furthermore, you don't bother to give any. "Forced and without merit" would describe your gandalf vote well.

On page 5 is the nopoint vote. Here's the post for that:

After looking at some things...

Vote: Nopoint

Mostly fluff posts, and easy voting Jesse. As someone who does not vote, Jesse seems like a too easy target.

I don't see how nopoint's vote was an "easy vote" when he actually gave reasoning with it (if you want to dispute the reason, that's a different issue). Also, I didn't see Jesse's not voting as a reason in nopoint's vote post.

I asked you to summarize the nopoint wagon on page 6.

Oh, and by the way, and we have yet to hear why the JS wagon is opportunistic.

On page 7, in response to why nopoint is scum, I get "ISO nopoint. " And yet Katsuki is bothered by why I simply said "No" (with a summarized reason under it, by the way) to his questioning.

After I press further for Kat to explain his vote, he completely ignores me and calls me scum.

Now, is

anyone

getting town vibes off of Katsuki?

[Antihero]

And the post above me proves nothing. At. All.

Preview EDIT: OK, take your time.

[Antihero]

You proved that you only bothered to iso me without reading the posts in context with the game. Hence, not even bothering to read.

I suppose, it is a form of misrep? Not entirely sure if that applies, but probably does.

Whatever. I read the thread in context.

[Antihero]

ANTIHERO. Quit being annoying and ISO. It's not that difficult, eight days ago. Don't understand HOW you possibly could have missed it.

Oh, yeah, I don't random vote. You'll learn that.

I didn't miss it.

Again, saying that you don't random vote =/= saying

why

you don't random vote

[Antihero]

I'm not really a fan of either wagon, but I'm getting concerned about why the Mufaa claim has stalled.
To those currently voting for Katsuki, why him over Mufaa?

I'm not getting hypocrisy scumvibes off of Muthaa like I am katsuki. But I guess I'll hammer before deadline if it prevents a no-lynch.

[Antihero]

Please read this post.

[Antihero]

Forgot to post here in a while. Expect one later.

I support a massclaim, by the way.

[Antihero]

This isn't my catchup post, but I'm a doctor.

[Antihero]

Sorry I've been neglecting this game. Let me rectify that.

Hacker: What exactly is misrepresented in my Kat case? And why didn't we hear about what was misrepresented from you yesterday?

For being second on your scum list, the case on Phaen is pretty weak.

Katsuki - Lots of noise, makes a pretty basic case on Nopoint that gets Antihero all riled up for some reason.

That's not the only thing that got me "riled up." Besides the crappy case on nopoint, he also called me scum when questioned.

I'm not seeing the case on Scott; I'm sensing people are just piling on simply because of number of posts (Hacker). Can someone actually show me something he wrote that's scummy?

Kat and Hacker look the scummiest to me; Scott looks townish

VOTE: Hackerhuck

[Antihero]

If Scott hasn't posted very much, why do you think he looks townish?

Mostly the diction of his posts. It's not that important, though.

I'm not going into the Jesse not voting argument. It's not going to be fruitful because obviously neither of us is going to convince the other.

He says right in the quote why he thinks Jesse is the easy vote. Giving a reason for a vote doesn't mean it isn't on an easy target.

Not randomly voting isn't the only thing people had a problem with

Antihero was that your catchup post?

Yep; the early D2 setup chatter didn't tell us much of anything about alignments and the massclaim already happened. What else did you want me to comment on?

[Antihero]

Katsuki, what ever happened to your beef with Antihero? You two were all over each other for a while yesterday and you both seem to have dropped it.

I don't believe I did such a thing.

I'm also interested in what Antihero thinks about Katsuki's interest in wagoning me today. Do you think he's bussing or do his actions make one of us appear more townish?

Your wagon is small and probably not going anywhere. Kat's "interest in wagoning" you doesn't mean you're on opposite teams. In fact, since your wagon probably isn't going anywhere, it looks more like a bus.

Phaen's nitpicking isn't helping her case...

[Antihero]

At the time Kastuki voted for me, there were four other people who had me on their scum list - WarriorMode, Antihero (with a vote), Phaen, and Scott. Smashbro had yet to comment on me and Jesse really hadn't either. If anything it seems that I would be a pretty easy lynch. That is unless 3 of those 5 are scum and don't want to all be caught lynching town. I guess that might be why someone wouldn't expect my wagon to go anywhere.

This is non sequitur.

I might expect your wagon to not go anywhere because, I don't know, you're not actually getting any votes.

[Antihero]

also, i don't exactly remember where the scott wagon dissappeared to, but

unvote

. I still think he is scum. Scott, if you think esurio/Phaen is scum, then why are you agreeing with who that slot believes is scum?

Smashbro - you should keep those kinds of thoughts to yourself. It's not doing anyone a favor by making your suspicions known.

Smashbro has a valid question. I'm not sure why he needs to keep it to himself.

Unless this is just to excuse Scott from coming up with a response.

[Antihero]

Smashbro has a valid question. I'm not sure why he needs to keep it to himself.

Unless this is just to excuse Scott from coming up with a response.

Come on, I know you can read. Scott answered that question before I even posted, so stop trying to make hay.

Do you still think that Katsuki is bussing me?

1) Scott didn't answer the question, he deflected.
2) With the hardcore AtE, I'd say yes.

[Antihero]

So, scott has disappeared. How convenient.

I thought that you didn't care what the claimed doctors think, or are you hoping that he'll come in and hammer me before the vigilantes coordinate their plans?

Who's making hay now, busmaster?

[Antihero]

Oh no, I was legitly raging. You are being obnoxiously VI'ish, and twisting my stuff.

I disagree, Kat. I thought Hacker's points were really legit, and I was pretty surprised we managed to mislynch him.

Thanks for putting up with my really crappy scum play, Kat and Jesse. I really need improvement there (well, the bright side is that I've never gotten

mis

lynched )

GG all.

[Antihero]

Haiz, Katsuki-scum again. The moment I died, I realized Antihero was scum

Being on different teams isn't nearly as fun as being in a game where we're both town.