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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:55 pm

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Sorry I've been neglecting this game. Let me rectify that.

Hacker: What exactly is misrepresented in my Kat case? And why didn't we hear about what was misrepresented from you yesterday?

For being second on your scum list, the case on Phaen is pretty weak.
Hacker wrote:Katsuki - Lots of noise, makes a pretty basic case on Nopoint that gets Antihero all riled up for some reason.
That's not the only thing that got me "riled up." Besides the crappy case on nopoint, he also called me scum when questioned.

I'm not seeing the case on Scott; I'm sensing people are just piling on simply because of number of posts (Hacker). Can someone actually show me something he wrote that's scummy?

Kat and Hacker look the scummiest to me; Scott looks townish

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:17 am

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Vote Count: Day 2


5 to lynch someone; 4 to not lynch anyone.

Scott Brosius: (1)
JesseSheffield
HackerHuck: (1)
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:32 am

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Sorry about being gone.

My top scum suspects are Scott, Katsuki, and Huck.

I get the sense Jesse is town. The other two I'm just unsure about.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:33 am

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I agree with Katsuki, the opinions of the vigs are far more important than the doctors'...

But I will vote my top suspect.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:37 am

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Antihero wrote:I'm not seeing the case on Scott; I'm sensing people are just piling on simply because of number of posts (Hacker). Can someone actually show me something he wrote that's scummy?
Actually I was the first to vote him, reasoning here-
JesseSheffield wrote:Because if we happen to mislynch today we'll be down to 4 town players and 3 scum players. If we set up a system of protection scum will know who to target, and if the vig's mess up we can end up 3 town players to 3 scum players. So basically he's setting us up to fail.
So 1. Nice job reading. And 2. People are piling on? Since when is two votes on a player a pile?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:12 am

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Phaen wrote:Sorry about being gone.

My top scum suspects are Scott, Katsuki, and Huck.

I get the sense Jesse is town. The other two I'm just unsure about.
You are unsure about yourself? There is only 1 claimed doc left after everyone else even though you said "the other two". I think this is scum forgetting how many doctors there actually are.

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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:16 am

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Yeah, whatever, I meant Antihero.

I'll be the first to admit I haven't been putting as much effort into this Day2 as I usually would. Sorry.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:50 am

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Got a good reason as to why?
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:09 pm

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It's cool, it's usually a good scumtell.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:09 pm

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Antihero wrote:Sorry I've been neglecting this game. Let me rectify that.

Hacker: What exactly is misrepresented in my Kat case? And why didn't we hear about what was misrepresented from you yesterday?

For being second on your scum list, the case on Phaen is pretty weak.
Hacker wrote:Katsuki - Lots of noise, makes a pretty basic case on Nopoint that gets Antihero all riled up for some reason.
That's not the only thing that got me "riled up." Besides the crappy case on nopoint, he also called me scum when questioned.

I'm not seeing the case on Scott; I'm sensing people are just piling on simply because of number of posts (Hacker). Can someone actually show me something he wrote that's scummy?

Kat and Hacker look the scummiest to me; Scott looks townish

VOTE: Hackerhuck
See what follows for the misrep. In my initial read, I noted your case on Katsuki as being incorrect. When I looked at the five suspects today, I dug in a little deeper. I would suggest you do the same.

Yes, my case on Phaen is not very strong, but in comparison with the five other doctors, that's where she sits. Same with Scott, since I've got town reads on Katsuki and Jesse. If Scott hasn't posted very much, why do you think he looks townish?

Misrep looking specifically at post 191.
Antihero wrote: Scott voted Katsuki for his push on Muthaa, to which Katsuki responded:
@Scott: Oh are you protecting muthaa's lack of wanting to place a vote? Jesse at least explained why they didn't, muthaa has yet to.
This is hypocritical. Jesse had not explained
why
he wasn't voting at the time, so it could be argued that you are protecting Jesse's actions.
I don't see how it's hypocritical. In fact, Katsuki is calling out Scott for being hypocritical because he considers Jesse's lack of voting scummy, but Muthaa's wasn't.
Jesse
had
explained why he wasn't voting and it was quite clear.
JesseSheffield in post 37 wrote:Oh, yeah, I don't random vote. You'll learn that.
Your words sum up the misrep nicely.
Antihero wrote:...he actually gave reasoning with it (if you want to dispute the reason, that's a different issue).
Antihero wrote:On page 5 is the nopoint vote. Here's the post for that:
After looking at some things...

Vote: Nopoint

Mostly fluff posts, and easy voting Jesse. As someone who does not vote, Jesse seems like a too easy target.
I don't see how nopoint's vote was an "easy vote" when he actually gave reasoning with it (if you want to dispute the reason, that's a different issue). Also, I didn't see Jesse's not voting as a reason in nopoint's vote post.

I asked you to summarize the nopoint wagon on page 6.

Oh, and by the way, and we have yet to hear why the JS wagon is opportunistic.
I'm not sure why you would even say these things. He says right in the quote why he thinks Jesse is the easy vote. Giving a reason for a vote doesn't mean it isn't on an easy target. He also mentions why it's opportunistic in the same post he says it (if you want to dispute the reason, that's a different issue).
Katsuki in post 152 wrote:Wagoning someone over their playstyle is, well, bad, and makes for a pretty easy opportunistic vote too.
You should also note that in the original quote, he's referencing all of the people voting Jesse, not just nopoint.



I disagree that getting the opinions from the vigilantes is important. Ultimately they will likely make the final decision on who to lynch, but if they totally lead the discussion, it will be harder for them to get good reads on us doctors. The vigs should be probing, but most of the content should be coming from the claimed doctors.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:19 pm

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My scum list is still the same for now. I would like to hear smashbro's scum list. I feel like most of our lists are pretty much the same right now. Not too sure of what to think of that.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:32 pm

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Hacker what do you think of Phaen's recent posts since you ignored them.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:17 pm

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Scott Brosius wrote:Hacker what do you think of Phaen's recent posts since you ignored them.
I didn't see anything specifically addressed to me. If you're talking about the scum slip you called out, I don't think it's a smoking gun and it's not enough to move my vote. If you read my list, she was already number two on my scumlist, so I don't think anything has changed.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:16 am

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smashbro really needs to pay more attention to this game...

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:47 pm

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JesseSheffield wrote:Got a good reason as to why?
It's not really a good reason, but I've become uninterested. The pace of everything in this game is agonizingly slow.
For example, taking several
days
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I'll try to examine day1 a little more instead of just going off my gut...
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:09 am

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Just a reminder that you have less than a week before the deadline is set.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:33 pm

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sorry bout not posting, haven't been online for a while. I don't have time for a big post now, but my views in a nutshell are jesse as town, scott and kat as mafia, hacker, antihereo, and phaen as neutral. if pushed on the neutrals, I'd say Phaen as town, and not sure about the other two. Will give some reasons for these tomorrow night, when i have more time.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:35 am

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THe whole claiming a lack of interest in a game for whatever reason I find to be scummy. I find that people who really feel this way replace out, but nobody wants to replace out as scum. Hence people who claim this and stay in the game are usually scum.

I'm still feeling a HH, Antihero, Phaen scumteam.

Antihero was that your catchup post?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:47 am

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Vote Count: Day 2


5 to lynch someone; 4 to not lynch anyone.

Scott Brosius: (1)
JesseSheffield, Phaen


HackerHuck: (1)
Antihero

Phaen: (1)
Scott Brosius

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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:55 am

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HackerHuck wrote:
I disagree that getting the opinions from the vigilantes is important.
Ultimately they will likely make the final decision on who to lynch, but if they totally lead the discussion, it will be harder for them to get good reads on us doctors. The vigs should be probing, but most of the content should be coming from the claimed doctors.
This post is quite the gem.
Lets have the docs, half of which are scum, lead the scumhunting.


I would be all for a hacker lynch at this point.

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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:55 am

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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:28 pm

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Hacker is definitely a scum read of mine as well as I have stated previously.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:05 pm

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Ok, so. As for Hacker, he seems to be trying to help out town, but I still read him as neutral because I don't think him to be confirmed town to me. If my other reads turn out wrong (based on the flip at the end of the day, I can see him as scum, but as for now, I like his contribution.

As for scott, I just think the way he's been playing has been scummy compared to what else I've seen from him. He tended to keep his vote away from the popular wagons of the time, ending up leaving it on gandalf when close to deadline, despite saying that he wasn't sure to put a vote on shotty or muthaa. this was very close to deadline, i don't see why he would not vote muthaa for the time being, if they were his top two.

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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:20 pm

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Hacker wrote:If Scott hasn't posted very much, why do you think he looks townish?
Mostly the diction of his posts. It's not that important, though.

I'm not going into the Jesse not voting argument. It's not going to be fruitful because obviously neither of us is going to convince the other.
Hacker wrote:He says right in the quote why he thinks Jesse is the easy vote. Giving a reason for a vote doesn't mean it isn't on an easy target.
Not randomly voting isn't the only thing people had a problem with
Scott wrote:Antihero was that your catchup post?
Yep; the early D2 setup chatter didn't tell us much of anything about alignments and the massclaim already happened. What else did you want me to comment on?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:01 pm

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You're one vote behind on Scott mod. It was two, it's currently at three.

As for Hacker I haven't really been paying that much attention to him, which now that I think about it kind of raises a red flag in my mind because normally I'm really good about keeping tabs on every player. Reading back through him I can't really find anything incriminating but I also can't really find anything that I think a scum player wouldn't do. So I could see the possibility of Hacker being scum but I feel much safer with Scott. I'm fairly positive he's a shoe-in. And at this point, with the game this tight we need a shoe-in scum lynch.
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