Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[curiouskarmadog]

hoping to update in the next 48

[CooLDoG]

@Nero chain, sorry I really read your name as neo... I meant nero.

I am going to do some catching up/re-reads and maybe post more today. I am really tired right now.

[horrordude0215]

So we have Esp, Looker, and SS for scum so far. One or two more and I'd say we have the entire team

Town, Town, 33% chance of being Town.

I get you saying that you're town, that's natural. But to say that Esp is town? That's quite a stretch...

[*] It's only scummy if you believe it. And I wasn't the only one to notice it. We should dictate his actions as a Town,

and if he's still alive in the morning, we lynch him.

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You may not have been the only one to notice it, but you were the only one to mention it, which is scummy as hell. And WTF? at bolded. Setting up lynches in advance is extremely scummy.

Horrordude's misrep in 306 is very unsettling. If you're going to quote me, quote me correctly. The "if" that comes before everything else in the first part you quoted me saying is very important, and if you leave that out, it changes the entire meaning of what I was trying to say. Also, I'll explain whatever you need me to explain, as soon as you start reading things thoroughly, or stop misrepping me on purpose. Either/Or. I'm not picky.

I would love to know how I misrepped you... I included the "if" part. First you go from saying that CKD is scum, to you almost think he's scum, to he may be scum conditionally. How is that a misrep?

@Horrid dude, for some reason I get a scum read on you from you last post. I get your lurking point (it was my entire fucking fault I didn't read the times on your post. Really sorry) but How many times have you switched your vote? And if you still thought ESP was scum why did you unvote him? He is the largest wagon.

at the name first of all. And here's all of my votes so far:

ISO 0 - Voted Espeonage because he needed to address some issues I had with him.
ISO 3 - Unvoted Espeonage because at the time I thought he had answered my questions properly.
ISO 4 - Voted Zwet as a pressure vote to get him to actually do something.
ISO 7 - Voted Looker because I thought he did something really scummy that couldn't go unnoticed. (IE pointing out a crumb)

[horrordude0215]

Ugh.. botched the tags there. Pretend like the [quote="zwetschenwasser"] isn't there

[zwetschenwasser]

Notice Looker's active lurking.

[horrordude0215]

Yeah, you're one to talk

[zwetschenwasser]

It doesn't matter what I do

[horrordude0215]

Why not?

[DemonHybrid]

It doesn't matter what I do

You're worth a look after Espy gets lynched today.

[Espeonage]

It doesn't matter what I do

Seriously only getting on to zwet now?

[Looker]

It doesn't matter what I do

You're being intentionally ambiguous to lead to irrelevant questioning. Stop trying to be deeper than you are.

You never answered my question about your alleged slip: What was it? You also didn't explain why CKD was likely town. None of your posts have been worth anything and yet you accuse

me

of active lurking. Get it together.

It doesn't matter what I do

Seriously only getting on to zwet now?

Do you think he's scum or just anti-town?

So we have Esp, Looker, and SS for scum so far. One or two more and I'd say we have the entire team

Town, Town, 33% chance of being Town.

I get you saying that you're town, that's natural. But to say that Esp is town? That's quite a stretch...

• It's only scummy if you believe it. And I wasn't the only one to notice it. We should dictate his actions as a Town,
  and if he's still alive in the morning, we lynch him.

You may not have been the only one to notice it, but you were the only one to mention it, which is scummy as hell. And WTF? at bolded. Setting up lynches in advance is extremely scummy.

• Why is it such a stretch? Because there's a lot of people voting him Day 1?
• If scum notice it, they kill him, it's over. If we notice it, at least we have a chance to protect him. Also, I understand your concern with the bolded; your logic is not lost on me - I hope mine isn't on you.

Can someone please explain this +1/2/3 etc. Thing?

It's how vollkan tallies his scumpoints.

V/LA till I get back in town (friday). Sorry.

We'll be waiting.

[Looker]

Also,

@Horror: If I were scum, I'd have killed him N1 and never mentioned the claim at all.

[zwetschenwasser]

I made no slip.

[Looker]

The slip that you found, Zwet.

[Looker]

You're town, by the way, so relax.

[Espeonage]

Not sure. but he isn't pro-town at the moment. If there is a scum neighbour he is it.

[Looker]

We need moar spam.

[vezokpiraka]

Spam.
Espy is scum. DIE.

unvote vote espy

[vollkan]

Can someone please explain this +1/2/3 etc. Thing?

As has been said, it's how I track scumminess.

Every player has a score from 0 -100, starting at 50. Towniness pulls it down, scumminess pushes it up. It basically just helps me keep track of who I suspect and, more importantly, why. I'm trying to start using it again (as in, I used to use it, but then stopped) because I do find that if I don't I very often forget who I suspect (or, more accurately, I forget

why

I suspect them and, because I insist on not playing by gut and having reasons for everything, it basically means I lose track).

I also think numbers help for clarifying whether I think a scumtell is serious or not.

Espy is scum. DIE.
unvote vote espy

Your previous post:

unvote P
vote singersinger
You tried to force a lynch on CKD. By using false information.

Why is Espy scummier than SS?

[vezokpiraka]

Cause Espy is scummy now.
SS didn't post so she is not scummy now. I will switch my vote if she posts something scummy.

[vollkan]

Cause Espy is scummy now.
SS didn't post so she is not scummy now. I will switch my vote if she posts something scummy.

That's bullshit.

This is all Esp posted since your last post:

lol. Actual post will be coming tomorrow. I'm both busy and tired.

So let me get this straight:

• SS, the person you previously apparently thought scummy enough to vote, loses her scumminess because she didn't post (which, by the way, makes no sense at all).
  
• Esp, the person you were not voting, makes a post promising content, which not only makes him scummy (again, this makes no sense), but makes him
  more scummy
  than the person you were just voting

Your reasoning on these two players is fundamentally inconsistent.

Vezok+5

[CooLDoG]

Cause Espy is scummy now.
SS didn't post so she is not scummy now. I will switch my vote if she posts something scummy.

Why is ESP scummy now? I personally think he is for reasons that I/town have already said earlier.
And Isn't being lurky scummy?

@horrid: So you voted and changed your vote 4 times in 14 posts, that means that there is a 29% chance that you will switch your vote in your next post. What do you consider wishy-washy to be?

[SnakePlissken]

Cause Espy is scummy now.
SS didn't post so she is not scummy now. I will switch my vote if she posts something scummy.

Weakest of reasoning. And the spam things need more explanation too. So you're saying if SS comes back in and says something thats not more than 3 sentences you're going to flip flop vote back?

unvote, vote Vezokpiraka

[singersigner]

Vezok...I don't like at all what you just did. You were perfectly fine with your vote on me (I saw it as nothing personal, don't worry), but then you had to go in and give absolutely NO REASON to vote for Espeonage...? There're only a couple legitimate reasons I can think of for why you'd change it in that short time, and I'm curious as to why you wouldn't give any of them.

VOTE: Vezokpiraka

Let's see if he goes back for an OMGUS vote on me, hmm?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm conflicted on vezokpiraka.

He ALWAYS does this shit.